<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:googleplay="http://www.google.com/schemas/play-podcasts/1.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[The Science Of...]]></title><description><![CDATA[We take impossible things—superpowers, space missions, bad movie physics—and ask a simple question: what would it take for this to actually work?]]></description><link>https://www.thescienceof.org</link><image><url>https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0I_C!,w_256,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdf15dd67-b837-40b4-9cff-9261b8bee6be_1224x1224.png</url><title>The Science Of...</title><link>https://www.thescienceof.org</link></image><generator>Substack</generator><lastBuildDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2026 17:01:48 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://www.thescienceof.org/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><copyright><![CDATA[Matt Brady]]></copyright><language><![CDATA[en]]></language><webMaster><![CDATA[thescienceof@substack.com]]></webMaster><itunes:owner><itunes:email><![CDATA[thescienceof@substack.com]]></itunes:email><itunes:name><![CDATA[Matt Brady]]></itunes:name></itunes:owner><itunes:author><![CDATA[Matt Brady]]></itunes:author><googleplay:owner><![CDATA[thescienceof@substack.com]]></googleplay:owner><googleplay:email><![CDATA[thescienceof@substack.com]]></googleplay:email><googleplay:author><![CDATA[Matt Brady]]></googleplay:author><itunes:block><![CDATA[Yes]]></itunes:block><item><title><![CDATA[Wolverine Doesn’t Just Heal. He Rebuilds.]]></title><description><![CDATA[Regrowing Wolverine would require much more than fast healing. His body would have to reconstruct limbs, nerves, memories&#8212;and Logan himself.]]></description><link>https://www.thescienceof.org/p/wolverine-healing-factor-science</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.thescienceof.org/p/wolverine-healing-factor-science</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt Brady]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2026 19:48:32 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/0f7504df-f98c-409e-b4a3-32999293e7d5_1185x687.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span>Between </span><em><span>X-Men &#8216;97</span></em><span>, the trailers for </span><em><span>Marvel&#8217;s Wolverine</span></em><span> video game (PS5 exclusive, dropping September 15th), and sneaking anticipation for an </span><em><span>Avengers: Doomsday</span></em><span> cameo (prediction markets currently have the chances of Hugh Jackman showing up in the movie between 82% and 91%, which leads to the suspicion that Old Man Logan will call the new, consolidated, post-</span><em><span>Secret Wars</span></em><span> Marvel Cinematic Universe home)...Wolverine&#8217;s everywhere again.</span></p><p><span>Yeah, like he ever leaves.</span></p><p><span>Anyway&#8212;check out the new story trailer for the PS5 game if you haven&#8217;t seen it yet. It looks amazing.</span></p><div id="youtube2-3Z42tBfBLJY" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;3Z42tBfBLJY&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:null,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/3Z42tBfBLJY?rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div><p><span>There&#8217;s one thing that features heavily in virtually every Wolverine story: his healing factor.  It&#8217;s legendary in the Marvel Universe (and copied by/transplanted into more than a few other Marvel characters). On the surface, it&#8217;s pretty straightforward. Wolverine heals fast. Cuts, gunshots, and stab wounds stitch themselves back together in a relatively short time. And it doesn&#8217;t stop there. Logan&#8217;s healing factor can handle much larger injuries&#8212;horrific burns, the loss of an eye, a bullet through the head, even skin and muscle being ripped or burned away. Stuff that would leave a regular human with nothing left to do but cool to room temperature.</span></p><p><span>But if we look at Wolverine&#8217;s healing factor close up and bring some science into it, his healing factor gets much cooler.</span></p><p><span>Seriously.</span></p><p><span>When you work through, step by step, what it does and how it must do it, you eventually reach a strange possibility: Wolverine&#8217;s healing factor may not preserve his body at all. It preserves the </span><em><span>pattern</span></em><span> called Wolverine.</span></p><p><span>The obvious scientific road to go down is how quickly Logan&#8217;s cells divide and rebuild damaged tissue. Yeah, that&#8217;s different and interesting (and occasionally gross). But the money question is how those cells know </span><em><span>what</span></em><span> to build, </span><em><span>where </span></em><span>to put it, and </span><em><span>when </span></em><span>to stop.</span></p><p><span>And then the harder question: if his brain is rebuilt from that same pattern, is the man who wakes up </span><em><span>still </span></em><span>Logan, or is he a perfect reconstruction who remembers </span><em><span>being</span></em><span> Logan? Digging into Logan&#8217;s healing factor starts scientific, gets </span><em><span>really </span></em><span>scientific, and then wanders into the metaphysical and existential.</span></p><p><span>Oh, and don&#8217;t worry&#8212;we&#8217;ll talk about the whole &#8220;regenerating from a drop of blood&#8221; thing, too.</span></p><p><span>Yeah. That was nuts.</span></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.thescienceof.org/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><h2><strong><span>&#8220;Wolverine Heals.&#8221; But What Does That Actually Mean?</span></strong></h2><p><span>You don&#8217;t have to search very hard online to find an image of something horrible happening to Wolverine. Take this moment, from about the 1:34 mark in the story trailer above:</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SpZV!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1e40a86e-a1f8-40f9-a63f-007b11a0c189_1340x780.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SpZV!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1e40a86e-a1f8-40f9-a63f-007b11a0c189_1340x780.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SpZV!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1e40a86e-a1f8-40f9-a63f-007b11a0c189_1340x780.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SpZV!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1e40a86e-a1f8-40f9-a63f-007b11a0c189_1340x780.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SpZV!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1e40a86e-a1f8-40f9-a63f-007b11a0c189_1340x780.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SpZV!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1e40a86e-a1f8-40f9-a63f-007b11a0c189_1340x780.jpeg" width="1340" height="780" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/1e40a86e-a1f8-40f9-a63f-007b11a0c189_1340x780.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:780,&quot;width&quot;:1340,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Wolverine&#8217;s skin and muscle are burned away as sparks fly, exposing sections of his adamantium-coated skeleton.Wolverine&#8217;s skin and muscle are burned away as sparks fly, exposing sections of his adamantium-coated skeleton.&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Wolverine&#8217;s skin and muscle are burned away as sparks fly, exposing sections of his adamantium-coated skeleton.Wolverine&#8217;s skin and muscle are burned away as sparks fly, exposing sections of his adamantium-coated skeleton." title="Wolverine&#8217;s skin and muscle are burned away as sparks fly, exposing sections of his adamantium-coated skeleton.Wolverine&#8217;s skin and muscle are burned away as sparks fly, exposing sections of his adamantium-coated skeleton." srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SpZV!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1e40a86e-a1f8-40f9-a63f-007b11a0c189_1340x780.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SpZV!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1e40a86e-a1f8-40f9-a63f-007b11a0c189_1340x780.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SpZV!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1e40a86e-a1f8-40f9-a63f-007b11a0c189_1340x780.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SpZV!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1e40a86e-a1f8-40f9-a63f-007b11a0c189_1340x780.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 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skin (and quite a bit of muscle) is being flayed away, leaving parts of his adamantium skeleton exposed. Yeah&#8212;that&#8217;s a bad one. This kind of stuff happens with alarming frequency across nearly every medium in which Wolverine appears.</span></p><p><span>Like after he lost a fight to Gambit in </span><em><span>Ultimate X-Men #51</span></em><span>:</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6g9Q!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdd2247ad-4762-47e1-858f-1f973a5beafe_600x338.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6g9Q!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdd2247ad-4762-47e1-858f-1f973a5beafe_600x338.jpeg 424w, 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data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/dd2247ad-4762-47e1-858f-1f973a5beafe_600x338.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:338,&quot;width&quot;:600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:573,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;A battered Wolverine lies on his back amid torn fabric, his face bruised and bloodied after a severe beating.&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="A battered Wolverine lies on his back amid torn fabric, his face bruised and bloodied after a severe beating." title="A battered Wolverine lies on his back amid torn fabric, his face bruised and bloodied after a severe beating." 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>(Image: Marvel)</em></figcaption></figure></div><p><span>Or when he was shot in the head by William Stryker in </span><em><span>X-Men Origins: Wolverine</span></em><span> with an adamantium bullet&#8230;</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KG0D!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff47af75a-c588-4096-911d-1808421f42a5_856x437.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KG0D!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff47af75a-c588-4096-911d-1808421f42a5_856x437.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KG0D!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff47af75a-c588-4096-911d-1808421f42a5_856x437.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KG0D!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff47af75a-c588-4096-911d-1808421f42a5_856x437.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KG0D!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff47af75a-c588-4096-911d-1808421f42a5_856x437.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KG0D!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff47af75a-c588-4096-911d-1808421f42a5_856x437.jpeg" width="856" height="437" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/f47af75a-c588-4096-911d-1808421f42a5_856x437.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:437,&quot;width&quot;:856,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;A wounded Wolverine lies on rocky ground as a gun is pointed at his head&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="A wounded Wolverine lies on rocky ground as a gun is pointed at his head" title="A wounded Wolverine lies on rocky ground as a gun is pointed at his head" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KG0D!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff47af75a-c588-4096-911d-1808421f42a5_856x437.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KG0D!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff47af75a-c588-4096-911d-1808421f42a5_856x437.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KG0D!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff47af75a-c588-4096-911d-1808421f42a5_856x437.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KG0D!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff47af75a-c588-4096-911d-1808421f42a5_856x437.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>(Image: 20th Century Fox)</em></figcaption></figure></div><p><span>Or the time he survived an atomic bomb in </span><em><span>The Wolverine</span></em><span>&#8230;</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rRFP!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4bcf8395-7978-477b-8ecf-042b8a124360_693x288.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rRFP!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4bcf8395-7978-477b-8ecf-042b8a124360_693x288.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rRFP!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4bcf8395-7978-477b-8ecf-042b8a124360_693x288.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rRFP!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4bcf8395-7978-477b-8ecf-042b8a124360_693x288.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rRFP!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4bcf8395-7978-477b-8ecf-042b8a124360_693x288.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rRFP!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4bcf8395-7978-477b-8ecf-042b8a124360_693x288.jpeg" width="693" height="288" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/4bcf8395-7978-477b-8ecf-042b8a124360_693x288.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:288,&quot;width&quot;:693,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rRFP!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4bcf8395-7978-477b-8ecf-042b8a124360_693x288.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rRFP!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4bcf8395-7978-477b-8ecf-042b8a124360_693x288.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rRFP!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4bcf8395-7978-477b-8ecf-042b8a124360_693x288.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rRFP!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4bcf8395-7978-477b-8ecf-042b8a124360_693x288.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>(Image: 20th Century Fox)</em></figcaption></figure></div><p><span>Or when Dark Phoenix burned away most of his flesh&#8230;</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sFRG!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F731e3c62-cf51-4951-a52e-dbeb0e8e732a_843x426.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sFRG!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F731e3c62-cf51-4951-a52e-dbeb0e8e732a_843x426.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sFRG!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F731e3c62-cf51-4951-a52e-dbeb0e8e732a_843x426.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sFRG!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F731e3c62-cf51-4951-a52e-dbeb0e8e732a_843x426.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sFRG!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F731e3c62-cf51-4951-a52e-dbeb0e8e732a_843x426.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sFRG!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F731e3c62-cf51-4951-a52e-dbeb0e8e732a_843x426.jpeg" width="843" height="426" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/731e3c62-cf51-4951-a52e-dbeb0e8e732a_843x426.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:426,&quot;width&quot;:843,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Wolverine screams as Dark Phoenix burns away much of the flesh from his chest and shoulders.&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Wolverine screams as Dark Phoenix burns away much of the flesh from his chest and shoulders." title="Wolverine screams as Dark Phoenix burns away much of the flesh from his chest and shoulders." srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sFRG!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F731e3c62-cf51-4951-a52e-dbeb0e8e732a_843x426.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sFRG!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F731e3c62-cf51-4951-a52e-dbeb0e8e732a_843x426.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sFRG!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F731e3c62-cf51-4951-a52e-dbeb0e8e732a_843x426.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sFRG!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F731e3c62-cf51-4951-a52e-dbeb0e8e732a_843x426.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>(Image: 20th Century Fox)</em></figcaption></figure></div><p><span>Or when Magneto ripped the adamantium out of his body in </span><em><span>X-Men &#8216;97, s1e9</span></em><span>&#8230;</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fnf!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F446ef2c4-b857-47d2-819f-e7ad5c44ea89_1280x800.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fnf!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F446ef2c4-b857-47d2-819f-e7ad5c44ea89_1280x800.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fnf!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F446ef2c4-b857-47d2-819f-e7ad5c44ea89_1280x800.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fnf!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F446ef2c4-b857-47d2-819f-e7ad5c44ea89_1280x800.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fnf!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F446ef2c4-b857-47d2-819f-e7ad5c44ea89_1280x800.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fnf!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F446ef2c4-b857-47d2-819f-e7ad5c44ea89_1280x800.jpeg" width="1280" height="800" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/446ef2c4-b857-47d2-819f-e7ad5c44ea89_1280x800.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:800,&quot;width&quot;:1280,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Wolverine writhes in pain as Magneto uses his powers to rip the adamantium from his skeleton.&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Wolverine writhes in pain as Magneto uses his powers to rip the adamantium from his skeleton." title="Wolverine writhes in pain as Magneto uses his powers to rip the adamantium from his skeleton." srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fnf!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F446ef2c4-b857-47d2-819f-e7ad5c44ea89_1280x800.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fnf!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F446ef2c4-b857-47d2-819f-e7ad5c44ea89_1280x800.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fnf!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F446ef2c4-b857-47d2-819f-e7ad5c44ea89_1280x800.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fnf!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F446ef2c4-b857-47d2-819f-e7ad5c44ea89_1280x800.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>(Image: Marvel Animation/Disney+)</em></figcaption></figure></div><p><span>Or he loses a hand. Or an eye. Or gets run over by a steamroller (true! Wolverine and the Punisher have beef&#8230;). Or has his flesh </span><em><span>completely </span></em><span>burned away. Or has enough tissue chopped and sliced off that an ordinary person would be dead long before hitting the floor.</span></p><p><span>Okay, okay&#8212;we&#8217;re not going to turn this into a catalog of every weird and horrible thing Wolverine has survived. </span><a href="https://screenrant.com/wolverine-xmen-fox-movies-injuries-deaths-survive/"><span>Plenty</span></a><span> of other</span><a href="https://www.ign.com/articles/wolverine-healing-factor-powers-regeneration-de"><span> sites</span></a><span> that have already done</span><a href="https://whatculture.com/comics/10-most-ridiculous-things-wolverine-survived?page=3"><span> that</span></a><span>.</span></p><blockquote><p><strong><span>Side note</span></strong><span>: Yes, there are far more extreme examples than these (he had his head removed one time back in the day for cryin&#8217; out loud). The early &#8216;00s especially were a weird time with comic creators one-upping each other for the horrible things they could do to Wolverine. We&#8217;re going to keep things &#8230;well, extreme, but not crazy like some of the really rough stuff.</span></p></blockquote><p><span>We know what happens next. The wounds close, everything grows back, and Wolverine is mostly okay.</span></p><p><span>But those deceptively simple visuals, along with our expectation of what comes next, hide the cool stuff.</span></p><p><span>When Wolverine heals, his body doesn&#8217;t just produce </span><em><span>more </span></em><span>cells. That would be somewhere between kinda helpful and useless. Instead, Wolverine&#8217;s body rebuilds (just a few examples):</span></p><ul><li><p><span>The right bones in the </span><em><span>right order</span></em></p></li><li><p><span>Joints bending in the </span><em><span>right direction</span></em></p></li><li><p><span>Muscles connected to the </span><em><span>correct tendons</span></em></p></li><li><p><span>Blood vessels that connect to the </span><em><span>existing circulation</span></em></p></li><li><p><span>Nerves that find their original destinations</span></p></li><li><p><span>Skin with the right shape, thickness, and orientation</span></p></li><li><p><span>An eye whose many layers line up well enough to see</span></p></li></ul><p><span>And then it stops.</span></p><p><span>Wolverine&#8217;s healing factor is usually presented as a matter of speed. His wounds close faster. His bones mend faster. Missing tissue grows back faster, and he&#8217;s ready to get back into the fight. But the speed with which he heals may be the </span><em><span>least </span></em><span>interesting thing about it.</span></p><p><span>The remarkable thing is that Wolverine always grows back into Wolverine.</span></p><p><span>So how does his body know what Wolverine is supposed to look like?</span></p><p><span>Now we&#8217;re talking the difference between healing and regeneration. Spoilers: one, we can do; the other&#8230;not so much, and certainly not as well.</span></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/p/wolverine-healing-factor-science?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.thescienceof.org/p/wolverine-healing-factor-science?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p><h2><strong><span>Faster Healing </span></strong><em><strong><span>Isn&#8217;t </span></strong></em><strong><span>Enough</span></strong></h2><p><span>In our world (not part of the Marvel Universe), human healing prioritizes </span><em><span>survival</span></em><span>, not perfect restoration. Stop the bleeding. Close the wound. Fight the infection. Clear away the wreckage. Stabilize whatever remains.</span></p><p><span>All in all, it&#8217;s an amazing system, and absolutely necessary for our survival. When any part of it goes wrong, the consequences can range from a wound that refuses to close to chronic illness, runaway scarring, or death.</span></p><p><span>But our bodies often leave stuff behind when they repair the damage:</span></p><ul><li><p><span>Scar tissue</span></p></li><li><p><span>Bones that knit together out of alignment</span></p></li><li><p><span>Tendons weakened or bound by scar tissue</span></p></li><li><p><span>Tissues stuck together by adhesions</span></p></li><li><p><span>Dirt, glass, or other debris sealed inside the body</span></p></li><li><p><span>Nerves that never find their way back to the main line</span></p></li></ul><p><span>You occasionally hear people say that an injury or a wound &#8220;Didn&#8217;t heal right.&#8221; That&#8217;s because it&#8217;s easy to confuse healing with regeneration. Again, we do one, but the other&#8230;</span><em><span>meh</span></em><span>?</span></p><p><span>And just stepping on the gas of our normal wound-healing process could make everything worse. A dislocated shoulder could lock itself into place while it&#8217;s still dislocated. A wound could close around glass, dirt, a bullet, or scraps of clothing. A severed tendon could retract into the arm and scar into the wrong place. The body did its best. Here&#8217;s a sticker. </span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PK4l!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4fd06070-a8a3-4654-bb12-6001cbc25dd4_600x600.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PK4l!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4fd06070-a8a3-4654-bb12-6001cbc25dd4_600x600.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PK4l!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4fd06070-a8a3-4654-bb12-6001cbc25dd4_600x600.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PK4l!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4fd06070-a8a3-4654-bb12-6001cbc25dd4_600x600.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PK4l!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4fd06070-a8a3-4654-bb12-6001cbc25dd4_600x600.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PK4l!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4fd06070-a8a3-4654-bb12-6001cbc25dd4_600x600.jpeg" width="419" height="419" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/4fd06070-a8a3-4654-bb12-6001cbc25dd4_600x600.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:600,&quot;width&quot;:600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:419,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;You tried your best medal - Yellow Sticker&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="You tried your best medal - Yellow Sticker" title="You tried your best medal - Yellow Sticker" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PK4l!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4fd06070-a8a3-4654-bb12-6001cbc25dd4_600x600.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PK4l!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4fd06070-a8a3-4654-bb12-6001cbc25dd4_600x600.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PK4l!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4fd06070-a8a3-4654-bb12-6001cbc25dd4_600x600.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PK4l!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4fd06070-a8a3-4654-bb12-6001cbc25dd4_600x600.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><span>Human bodies are remarkably good at emergency repair. Wolverine&#8217;s &#8220;healing factor&#8221; has to close the wound, replace what was lost, and restore the model back to factory settings.</span></p><p><span>They&#8217;re not the same thing.</span></p><p><span>And that&#8217;s what should make any human doctor in the Marvel Universe go:</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KdC_!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbf70e068-56d5-4a26-90af-01095d93e294_500x386.gif" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KdC_!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbf70e068-56d5-4a26-90af-01095d93e294_500x386.gif 424w, 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unimpressed expression." title="A black-and-white GIF of Charles Foster Kane clapping slowly with a stern, unimpressed expression." srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KdC_!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbf70e068-56d5-4a26-90af-01095d93e294_500x386.gif 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KdC_!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbf70e068-56d5-4a26-90af-01095d93e294_500x386.gif 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KdC_!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbf70e068-56d5-4a26-90af-01095d93e294_500x386.gif 1272w, 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I&#8217;m going to need some blood, a tissue sample, three MRI scans, and the most aggressive informed-consent form ever written.&#8221;</span></p><p><span>Putting it this way, it&#8217;s no wonder that so many people want to get their hands on Logan and see what makes him tick. Yeah, yeah, Weapon X, mutant exploitation, crimes against humanity. But still&#8230;the medical breakthroughs.</span></p><p><span>Does that make me sound like Mr. Sinister?</span></p><p><span>I think it makes me sound like Mr. Sinister.</span></p><p><span>Actually, this may be more Dr. Cornelius and Weapon X than Mr. Sinister.</span></p><p><span>Is it still evil if we get informed consent?</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4SRo!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa4dc6ec1-6337-42e8-985b-cb14fa86445d_495x372.gif" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4SRo!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa4dc6ec1-6337-42e8-985b-cb14fa86445d_495x372.gif 424w, 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laughs." srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4SRo!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa4dc6ec1-6337-42e8-985b-cb14fa86445d_495x372.gif 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4SRo!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa4dc6ec1-6337-42e8-985b-cb14fa86445d_495x372.gif 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4SRo!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa4dc6ec1-6337-42e8-985b-cb14fa86445d_495x372.gif 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4SRo!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa4dc6ec1-6337-42e8-985b-cb14fa86445d_495x372.gif 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div 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stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>The evil is a bug, not a feature. He&#8217;s just trying to get his research funded&#8230;</em></figcaption></figure></div><p><em><span>Anyway</span></em><span>&#8230;</span></p><p><span>Regeneration isn&#8217;t impossible in our universe. Humans do limited versions of it, and a few animals are genuinely Wolverine-level spectacular at it. We can look at them as examples of how regeneration might work with Wolverine. </span></p><p><span>Let&#8217;s go with the crowd-pleaser in that latter category: axolotls.</span></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.thescienceof.org/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><h2><strong><span>The Uncanny Axolotls</span></strong></h2><p><span>This is an axolotl:</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xB_m!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdd047c7d-42f9-470e-ab49-040309440ed4_1200x1200.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xB_m!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdd047c7d-42f9-470e-ab49-040309440ed4_1200x1200.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xB_m!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdd047c7d-42f9-470e-ab49-040309440ed4_1200x1200.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xB_m!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdd047c7d-42f9-470e-ab49-040309440ed4_1200x1200.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xB_m!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdd047c7d-42f9-470e-ab49-040309440ed4_1200x1200.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xB_m!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdd047c7d-42f9-470e-ab49-040309440ed4_1200x1200.jpeg" width="1200" height="1200" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/dd047c7d-42f9-470e-ab49-040309440ed4_1200x1200.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1200,&quot;width&quot;:1200,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;A pale pink axolotl faces the camera, its feathery external gills fanning out around its head.&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="A pale pink axolotl faces the camera, its feathery external gills fanning out around its head." title="A pale pink axolotl faces the camera, its feathery external gills fanning out around its head." srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xB_m!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdd047c7d-42f9-470e-ab49-040309440ed4_1200x1200.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xB_m!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdd047c7d-42f9-470e-ab49-040309440ed4_1200x1200.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xB_m!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdd047c7d-42f9-470e-ab49-040309440ed4_1200x1200.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xB_m!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdd047c7d-42f9-470e-ab49-040309440ed4_1200x1200.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Adorbs. (Image: The Guardian)</em></figcaption></figure></div><p><span>Salamanders native to the lakes and canals around Mexico City, axolotls look like Pok&#233;mon designed by a committee of eight-year-olds. The feathery branches sticking out from their heads are external gills. The little smile? That&#8217;s just how their faces work. Cute? Absolutely. But underneath all that pink, frilly charm is one of the coolest regenerative systems in the animal kingdom.</span></p><p><span>When an axolotl loses a hand (the horror! It&#8217;s so cute!), cells near the injury form a temporary regeneration zone called a </span><strong><span>blastema</span></strong><span>. The blastema is the fancy term for a group of undifferentiated cells that can proliferate and regenerate missing body parts. Its cells can divide, reorganize, and rebuild what is missing.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mpX2!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F89c9d61e-43b9-487f-8555-5321d2e27f01_1920x920.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mpX2!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F89c9d61e-43b9-487f-8555-5321d2e27f01_1920x920.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mpX2!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F89c9d61e-43b9-487f-8555-5321d2e27f01_1920x920.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mpX2!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F89c9d61e-43b9-487f-8555-5321d2e27f01_1920x920.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mpX2!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F89c9d61e-43b9-487f-8555-5321d2e27f01_1920x920.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mpX2!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F89c9d61e-43b9-487f-8555-5321d2e27f01_1920x920.png" width="1456" height="698" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/89c9d61e-43b9-487f-8555-5321d2e27f01_1920x920.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:698,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;An axolotl limb before amputation, the blastema forming at the wound site, and the fully regenerated limb.&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="An axolotl limb before amputation, the blastema forming at the wound site, and the fully regenerated limb." title="An axolotl limb before amputation, the blastema forming at the wound site, and the fully regenerated limb." srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mpX2!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F89c9d61e-43b9-487f-8555-5321d2e27f01_1920x920.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mpX2!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F89c9d61e-43b9-487f-8555-5321d2e27f01_1920x920.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mpX2!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F89c9d61e-43b9-487f-8555-5321d2e27f01_1920x920.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mpX2!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F89c9d61e-43b9-487f-8555-5321d2e27f01_1920x920.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">An axolotl limb amputated through the middle of the lower arm (dotted line on left panel) generates a blastema consisting of a mass of proliferating cells (center panel), which grows and perfectly replaces all the amputated structures (right panel). (Caption &amp; image <a href="https://www.openaccessgovernment.org/champion-regenerative-medicine-axolotl/40526/">source</a>)</figcaption></figure></div><p><span>They don&#8217;t grow a random lump of generic axolotl cells; they regrow </span><em><span>exactly </span></em><span>what was missing.</span></p><p><span>For example, the blastema on the axolotl&#8217;s stump produces:</span></p><ul><li><p><span>A wrist</span></p></li><li><p><span>The correct number of digits</span></p></li><li><p><span>The correct orientation</span></p></li><li><p><span>Bone, muscle, nerves, vessels, and skin</span></p></li><li><p><span>Only the portion of the limb that was lost</span></p></li></ul><p><span>Cut the limb near the wrist, and it regrows a </span><em><span>hand</span></em><span>&#8212;not an entire arm.</span></p><p><span>Axolotls can do this because their cells </span><em><span>remember </span></em><span>where they are. It&#8217;s not a literal architectural drawing stored in one location like a blueprint, though. Instead, cells carry positional information needed for rebuilding, like:</span></p><ul><li><p><span>I am near the end of the forearm.</span></p></li><li><p><span>This is the front.</span></p></li><li><p><span>That is the thumb side.</span></p></li><li><p><span>These tissues should be beside me.</span></p></li><li><p><span>Something is missing beyond this point.</span></p></li></ul><p><span>The cells communicate through gene activity, chemical gradients, electrical signals, physical contact, nerves, and the surrounding extracellular matrix.</span></p><p><span>The reasoning behind this ability for axolotls dates back to their development. Generally, the cells of all organisms in development have an idea of who they&#8217;re going to be and where they should go. Regeneration in axolotls is studied because they&#8217;re relatively unique. The connective tissue cells in axolotls hold on to specific information assigned when the limb first developed. That information and developmental pathways can be reactivated when the animal is injured.</span></p><blockquote><p><strong><span>Side note</span></strong><span>: You may have heard that the regeneration in axolotls is due to them remaining functionally larval throughout their entire lives. That&#8217;s not entirely true. While they retain many larval characteristics, they mature and become adult axolotls while maintaining their regenerative abilities. They&#8217;re not &#8220;forever babies&#8221; as adults; they can tap into their original developmental programming.</span></p></blockquote><p><span>Being an axolotl doesn&#8217;t make you amphibian Wolverine, though. There are limitations.</span></p><p><span>The positional memory of cells appears to be located mostly in connective tissue cells (such as fibroblasts), while muscle cells can mostly make more muscle cells, Schwann cells (part of the nervous system) produce Schwann cells, and other cells are likewise limited in their regeneration capabilities. In many ways, connective tissues have the overall plan, while other cells are like specialized construction teams that can only make those types of cells.</span></p><p><span>Once the axolotl is injured, specific signals are sent through the cells near the affected area. A currently researched example is along the axis of an axolotl hand, from the thumb to the little finger.</span></p><p><span>In the area, posterior connective-tissue cells retain the activity of a developmental on/off switch protein called Hand2. Following an injury, Hand2 turns on a crucial growth signal called</span><a href="https://getanimated.uk.com/how-a-genuine-human-gene-got-named-after-sonic-the-hedgehog/"><span> Sonic Hedgehog</span></a><span> (Shh) to regrow the missing limb. Together, Hand2 and Shh (and other factors) make a map that tells the growing tissue where to grow a thumb versus where to grow a pinky, making sure the new limb looks just like the old one.</span></p><p><span>The entire system is known by pieces. There&#8217;s no whole-organism cellular GPS that can be located and tracked within axolotls. And there are lots of caveats and considerations that prevent larger assumptions from being made, willy-nilly.</span></p><p><span>Just a couple of quick final things before this turns into a molecular biology/developmental biology lecture and we forget that we started this talking about Wolverine...</span></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_content=share&amp;action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share The Science Of...&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.thescienceof.org/?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_content=share&amp;action=share"><span>Share The Science Of...</span></a></p><h3><span>The Hand Does Not Grow a New Body</span></h3><p><span>The positional memory shown by some axolotl cells is not a complete backup copy of the whole creature. It tells what cells belong near the current location, and that&#8217;s it. You may be thinking of starfish. </span><a href="https://denverzoo.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Sea-Stars.pdf"><span>Completely different thing</span></a><span> with its own caveats.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wqgo!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F87a414fc-19a8-4848-8b1f-bb6f2b7c01d6_600x338.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wqgo!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F87a414fc-19a8-4848-8b1f-bb6f2b7c01d6_600x338.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wqgo!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F87a414fc-19a8-4848-8b1f-bb6f2b7c01d6_600x338.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wqgo!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F87a414fc-19a8-4848-8b1f-bb6f2b7c01d6_600x338.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wqgo!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F87a414fc-19a8-4848-8b1f-bb6f2b7c01d6_600x338.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wqgo!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F87a414fc-19a8-4848-8b1f-bb6f2b7c01d6_600x338.jpeg" width="600" height="338" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/87a414fc-19a8-4848-8b1f-bb6f2b7c01d6_600x338.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:338,&quot;width&quot;:600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;The Hulk roars while holding Wolverine&#8217;s severed upper and lower halves after tearing him in two.&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="The Hulk roars while holding Wolverine&#8217;s severed upper and lower halves after tearing him in two." title="The Hulk roars while holding Wolverine&#8217;s severed upper and lower halves after tearing him in two." srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wqgo!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F87a414fc-19a8-4848-8b1f-bb6f2b7c01d6_600x338.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wqgo!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F87a414fc-19a8-4848-8b1f-bb6f2b7c01d6_600x338.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wqgo!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F87a414fc-19a8-4848-8b1f-bb6f2b7c01d6_600x338.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wqgo!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F87a414fc-19a8-4848-8b1f-bb6f2b7c01d6_600x338.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Wolverine will re-grow, from head-out, not leg-up. Otherwise, we get an army of Wolverines. Hey&#8230;I have an idea&#8230; (Image: Marvel)</em></figcaption></figure></div><p><span>Consider the detached axolotl hand. It&#8217;s lost its blood supply (no oxygen, no nutrients or waste removal), so the tissue will die. Limb regeneration is directional - a wrist stump regrows a hand away from the body; the hand stump can&#8217;t grow a body away from the hand. The regrowth system needs a living wound environment. Hand cells keep their positional identity and aren&#8217;t going to change into arm cells, trunk cells, or head cells. And finally, an axolotl is not a </span><a href="https://wi.mit.edu/news/how-one-worm-can-rebuild-its-whole-body"><span>planarian</span></a><span>. Those flatworms can do the whole, new-body thing. Creepy and cool.</span></p><p><span>Also&#8230;</span></p><h3><span>Axolotls Are Not Immortals</span></h3><p><span>But they may live longer thanks to their unique biology - but it&#8217;s not the regeneration that does it. Regrowth is specific; aging is whole-body. Axolotls still get sick, suffer from lousy environments, get organ failure, and can be injured past the point of no return.</span></p><p><span>But they do appear to be resistant to some aspects of getting old. But that may be related to creating new tissue through regeneration, rather than regeneration freeing them from aging. The research is limited, and the jury is still out.</span></p><p><span>The TL; DR of all of this side quest? Axolotls form blastemas, blastemas are pretty amazing, and humans don&#8217;t form them at injury sites. But Wolverine might have something like it. </span></p><p><span>Hey - his name is in the title. Let&#8217;s get back to Wolverine&#8230;</span></p><h2><span>What Have We Learned About Logan?</span></h2><p><span>If we model what Wolverine&#8217;s healing factor does on known biology, then he is a little axolotl-like. His cells don&#8217;t need to remember </span><em><span>all </span></em><span>of Wolverine. Each one only needs to remember where it belongs in Wolverine, and recognize when its neighbors are missing.</span></p><p><span>This is far more than what axolotls can do, which makes for great stories, but envious axolotls.</span></p><p><span>Let&#8217;s apply what we&#8217;ve learned a little. Suppose Logan loses a hand.</span></p><p><span>His surviving wrist cells encounter an anatomical impossibility: tissues that should have neighbors beyond them now face open air. The pattern has been interrupted.</span></p><p><span>His healing factor could proceed like this:</span></p><ol><li><p><span>Detect the broken anatomical pattern.</span></p></li><li><p><span>Temporarily seal and protect the wound.</span></p></li><li><p><span>Create a blastema-like regeneration zone.</span></p></li><li><p><span>Establish the body&#8217;s axes: front/back, left/right, near/far.</span></p></li><li><p><span>Grow the missing tissues according to their positional addresses.</span></p></li><li><p><span>Reconnect vessels, muscles, tendons, and nerves.</span></p></li><li><p><span>Stop when all of the anatomical mismatches have been eliminated.</span></p></li></ol><p>Some of the things on this list have analogs in our world&#8217;s animals, but some are still wish-list items. The best way to think about it is Wolverine&#8217;s healing factor is a mishmash of a handful of different features we see across a variety of organisms. </p><p><em><span>(And no, we&#8217;re not going to go into how he gets adamantium back, because&#8230;??? Is there a precedent for that in comics? If he loses a leg and it grows back, adamantium-free, does he have to go in for Weapon X-style &#8220;treatment&#8221; again? Who does it? Why would he chose that? It seems like it hurts.)</span></em></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Egni!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9b249381-6177-41da-9716-cce54e53f1ed_1280x720.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Egni!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9b249381-6177-41da-9716-cce54e53f1ed_1280x720.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Egni!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9b249381-6177-41da-9716-cce54e53f1ed_1280x720.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Egni!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9b249381-6177-41da-9716-cce54e53f1ed_1280x720.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Egni!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9b249381-6177-41da-9716-cce54e53f1ed_1280x720.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Egni!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9b249381-6177-41da-9716-cce54e53f1ed_1280x720.png" width="1280" height="720" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/9b249381-6177-41da-9716-cce54e53f1ed_1280x720.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:720,&quot;width&quot;:1280,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;A shirtless Wolverine emerges roaring from a water tank, his metal claws extended and steam rising around him.&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="A shirtless Wolverine emerges roaring from a water tank, his metal claws extended and steam rising around him." title="A shirtless Wolverine emerges roaring from a water tank, his metal claws extended and steam rising around him." srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Egni!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9b249381-6177-41da-9716-cce54e53f1ed_1280x720.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Egni!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9b249381-6177-41da-9716-cce54e53f1ed_1280x720.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Egni!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9b249381-6177-41da-9716-cce54e53f1ed_1280x720.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Egni!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9b249381-6177-41da-9716-cce54e53f1ed_1280x720.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div 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stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>There is nothing about this, in any medium, that has come across as anything other than agony. (Image: 20th Century Fox)</em></figcaption></figure></div><p><span>Turns out that the best metaphor for Wolverine&#8217;s healing factor isn&#8217;t a static blueprint. It&#8217;s an </span><strong><span>error-correcting network</span></strong><span>.</span></p><p><span>Wolverine&#8217;s body </span><em><strong><span>continually </span></strong></em><span>compares what is there with what should be there. An injury creates a discrepancy. Regeneration continues until the discrepancy disappears.</span></p><p><span>Or, more simply:</span></p><p><span>Logan&#8217;s body doesn&#8217;t stop growing after an injury because his body has produced a predetermined number of cells. He stops because there are no anatomical errors left to correct.</span></p><p><span>Side note: the error-correcting network idea also allows for Wolverine&#8217;s immune system - he doesn&#8217;t get sick, his lungs don&#8217;t suffer from the cigars he smokes, his liver is fine, despite the beer. This guy is </span><em><span>made </span></em><span>for hard living.</span></p><p><span>This lets us inventory what his &#8220;healing factor&#8221; actually includes:</span></p><ul><li><p><span>Injury detection</span></p></li><li><p><span>Scarless wound closure</span></p></li><li><p><span>Cellular reprogramming</span></p></li><li><p><span>Rapid but controlled cell division</span></p></li><li><p><span>Positional memory</span></p></li><li><p><span>Three-dimensional pattern formation</span></p></li><li><p><span>Blood-vessel reconstruction</span></p></li><li><p><span>Nerve reconnection</span></p></li><li><p><span>Cancer (cell overgrowth) suppression</span></p></li><li><p><span>A reliable stop mechanism</span></p></li></ul><p><span>Yeah, &#8220;fast healing&#8221; is almost the least interesting item on this pretty-amazing list.</span></p><p><span>Bringing this into reality, we already have a limited version of this in our bodies: </span><strong><span>the liver</span></strong><span>. Remove part of a healthy human liver, and the remaining tissue grows until the body has roughly the amount of functioning liver it needs. It doesn&#8217;t count out a predetermined number of new cells. It responds to a deficit, and stops when that deficit has been corrected.</span></p><p><span>The catch is that the liver restores capacity, </span><em><span>not</span></em><span> the original architecture. Logan does both.</span></p><p><span>But hear me out&#8230;</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QI0A!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd744e25f-ad53-481f-a6da-5b0fc78daab6_1254x1254.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QI0A!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd744e25f-ad53-481f-a6da-5b0fc78daab6_1254x1254.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QI0A!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd744e25f-ad53-481f-a6da-5b0fc78daab6_1254x1254.png 848w, 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grins while extending three metal claws from each hand against a comic-book explosion background." title="A cartoon liver dressed as Wolverine grins while extending three metal claws from each hand against a comic-book explosion background." srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QI0A!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd744e25f-ad53-481f-a6da-5b0fc78daab6_1254x1254.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QI0A!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd744e25f-ad53-481f-a6da-5b0fc78daab6_1254x1254.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QI0A!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd744e25f-ad53-481f-a6da-5b0fc78daab6_1254x1254.png 1272w, 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Call me.</em></figcaption></figure></div><h2><span>What Counts as Wolverine?</span></h2><p><span>If your body has an error-correcting mechanism hiding under the name &#8220;healing factor,&#8221; you&#8217;re going to have some deep questions.</span></p><p><span>The healing factor can&#8217;t just restore his genetically encoded body, because Logan now has some other features: an adamantium skeleton, memories, scars, and age, to name a few. To do what it does, Logan&#8217;s body has to somehow distinguish change from actual damage.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!80d0!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbbc5312a-2126-41a2-a845-32b8e3c7396e_1280x720.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!80d0!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbbc5312a-2126-41a2-a845-32b8e3c7396e_1280x720.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!80d0!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbbc5312a-2126-41a2-a845-32b8e3c7396e_1280x720.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!80d0!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbbc5312a-2126-41a2-a845-32b8e3c7396e_1280x720.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!80d0!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbbc5312a-2126-41a2-a845-32b8e3c7396e_1280x720.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!80d0!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbbc5312a-2126-41a2-a845-32b8e3c7396e_1280x720.png" width="1280" height="720" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/bbc5312a-2126-41a2-a845-32b8e3c7396e_1280x720.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:720,&quot;width&quot;:1280,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Wade Wilson sits beside Blind Al with newly regenerated, infant-sized legs after being torn in half.&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Wade Wilson sits beside Blind Al with newly regenerated, infant-sized legs after being torn in half." title="Wade Wilson sits beside Blind Al with newly regenerated, infant-sized legs after being torn in half." srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!80d0!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbbc5312a-2126-41a2-a845-32b8e3c7396e_1280x720.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!80d0!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbbc5312a-2126-41a2-a845-32b8e3c7396e_1280x720.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!80d0!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbbc5312a-2126-41a2-a845-32b8e3c7396e_1280x720.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!80d0!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbbc5312a-2126-41a2-a845-32b8e3c7396e_1280x720.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Right, not Logan, but how do Wade&#8217;s legs know when to stop growing? How do they know their correct length? Information must be flowing into them as they regrow. (Image: 20th Century Fox/Marvel Entertainment)</em></figcaption></figure></div><p><span>Along with repairing anatomy, Logan&#8217;s healing factor must continually decide what makes up &#8220;Logan&#8221; and what doesn&#8217;t.</span></p><p><span>Start stroking your chin now. There are some things to consider:</span></p><p><span>First, what pieces of Logan get priority for regrowth? If every fragment of Logan&#8217;s DNA contains the &#8220;whole Logan rebuild&#8221; protocol, then DNA can&#8217;t be the determining factor for which piece gets to rebuild the whole person. Every cell may have the blueprint, but not every cell gets to be Logan. Otherwise, every bloodstain and severed finger becomes another Wolverine.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dvdr!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F60106832-b9e9-4e57-bde4-aee728c31e64_1097x785.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dvdr!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F60106832-b9e9-4e57-bde4-aee728c31e64_1097x785.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dvdr!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F60106832-b9e9-4e57-bde4-aee728c31e64_1097x785.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dvdr!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F60106832-b9e9-4e57-bde4-aee728c31e64_1097x785.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dvdr!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F60106832-b9e9-4e57-bde4-aee728c31e64_1097x785.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dvdr!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F60106832-b9e9-4e57-bde4-aee728c31e64_1097x785.png" width="1097" height="785" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/60106832-b9e9-4e57-bde4-aee728c31e64_1097x785.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:785,&quot;width&quot;:1097,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Two-page comic sequence showing Wolverine regenerating from a single drop of blood after the Crystal of Ultimate Vision amplifies his healing factor.&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Two-page comic sequence showing Wolverine regenerating from a single drop of blood after the Crystal of Ultimate Vision amplifies his healing factor." title="Two-page comic sequence showing Wolverine regenerating from a single drop of blood after the Crystal of Ultimate Vision amplifies his healing factor." srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dvdr!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F60106832-b9e9-4e57-bde4-aee728c31e64_1097x785.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dvdr!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F60106832-b9e9-4e57-bde4-aee728c31e64_1097x785.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dvdr!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F60106832-b9e9-4e57-bde4-aee728c31e64_1097x785.png 1272w, 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11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Yes - the one drop of blood scene, but there was magic involved, so I&#8217;m putting this under the &#8220;doesn&#8217;t count&#8221; banner.  (Image: Marvel)</em></figcaption></figure></div><p><span>Wolverine&#8217;s healing network therefore needs:</span></p><ul><li><p><span>One surviving fragment designated as &#8220;original&#8221;</span></p></li><li><p><span>A hierarchy among tissues</span></p></li><li><p><span>A way to distinguish &#8220;Logan&#8221; from &#8220;material formerly attached to Logan&#8221;</span></p></li></ul><p><span>The brain and upper spinal cord remain the best biologically defensible organizing center when we look at this from a reasonable science perspective. Yes, as mentioned earlier, creators have occasionally pushed his survival beyond what that model allows.</span></p><p><span>Second deep Wolverine thought - information. A brain is not a mind.</span></p><p><span>Regeneration covers the brain rebuild &#8212; missing cells report that there are cells missing, and everyone starts to rebuild what was there before. Will that rebuild reconstruct the exact neural organization that was there before? The organization and connections between neurons help form memories, behaviors, habits, instincts, and more. Without those connections, they&#8217;re just not there.</span></p><p><span>And the deeper question - how does Logan&#8217;s healing factor preserve the continuity of consciousness given a traumatic brain injury? More than memories, now we&#8217;re into the realm of identity, personality, connection to others. The movies have touched on this a bit - the brain damage of being shot in the head with an adamantium bullet was responsible for his memory loss, which Professor Xavier helped him recover, but repeated head injuries? Logan does have memory issues, so this could actually be the underlying reason. Parts of his brain are so damaged that his healing factor rebuilds them, but the connections don&#8217;t reconnect. Memories are </span><em><span>gone</span></em><span>.</span></p><p><span>Continual severe damage to Logan year after year really brings up a &#8220;</span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_Theseus"><span>Logan of Theseus</span></a><span>&#8221; question. How much can you replace and still have Logan, rather than a human who thinks he&#8217;s Logan? Wolverine gets a huge head injury and is out for days. </span><em><span>Who </span></em><span>wakes up?</span></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.thescienceof.org/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><h2><span>The Cost of Being Wolverine</span></h2><p><span>In any universe, there&#8217;s no free lunch. Everything costs something.</span></p><p><span>Let&#8217;s apply that idea to Wolverine&#8217;s healing factor. It&#8217;s </span><em><span>constantly </span></em><span>checking and updating matter and structure in the body, as well as maintaining information, that is, keeping the pattern that makes the body &#8220;Logan.&#8221;</span></p><p><span>Short phrases, but that&#8217;s a lot of energy expenditure.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MJK3!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7be07443-670b-4842-9600-da825af13134_1024x682.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MJK3!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7be07443-670b-4842-9600-da825af13134_1024x682.jpeg 424w, 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data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/7be07443-670b-4842-9600-da825af13134_1024x682.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:682,&quot;width&quot;:1024,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:101971,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;A shirtless Wolverine sits at a table holding a liquor bottle, fresh bullet wounds visible across his chest.&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/i/208331792?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7be07443-670b-4842-9600-da825af13134_1024x682.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="A shirtless Wolverine sits at a table holding a liquor bottle, fresh bullet wounds visible across his chest." title="A shirtless Wolverine sits at a table holding a liquor bottle, fresh bullet wounds visible across his chest." srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MJK3!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7be07443-670b-4842-9600-da825af13134_1024x682.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MJK3!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7be07443-670b-4842-9600-da825af13134_1024x682.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MJK3!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7be07443-670b-4842-9600-da825af13134_1024x682.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MJK3!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7be07443-670b-4842-9600-da825af13134_1024x682.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>The variant known as Thirst-Trap Logan (Image: 20th Century Fox)</em> </figcaption></figure></div><p><span>Let&#8217;s run a list of what the healing factor has to be doing for it to work as we&#8217;ve seen it work. Its list of jobs includes:</span></p><ul><li><p><span>Producing new cells and proteins</span></p></li><li><p><span>Copying DNA</span></p></li><li><p><span>Rebuilding membranes, bone, muscle, vessels, and nerves</span></p></li><li><p><span>Pumping blood through new tissue</span></p></li><li><p><span>Removing dead material and metabolic waste</span></p></li><li><p><span>Preventing infection</span></p></li><li><p><span>Regulating temperature</span></p></li><li><p><span>Suppressing cancer</span></p></li><li><p><span>Continually repairing toxins, radiation damage, oxidative damage, and ordinary cellular wear</span></p></li><li><p><span>Maintaining or reconstructing neural information</span></p></li></ul><p><span>24/7/365</span></p><p><span>Recovering from catastrophic injury cannot be free. Logan needs energy, raw materials, and very specific instructions.</span></p><p><span>Yes - I am aware that I&#8217;m talking about needing raw materials for someone who lives in the same universe as the Hulk, who can add to his mass whenever he gets all huffy. I know, but go with me here. There&#8217;s a sad ending coming up.</span></p><p><span>Tweak things for Logan towards the realistic, and we&#8217;ve got a recently-healed Wolverine who&#8217;s ravenously hungry, dehydrated, oxygen-starved, overheated, out of stored fat and glycogen, and running low on whatever was needed to rebuild the missing tissues (calcium, iron, etc). And it does it again in an hour. And an hour later, if the Sentinels push their assault. </span></p><p><em><span>(Let&#8217;s not get into his occasional dalliances into self-cannibalization&#8230;energy-wise? Nope. That would not work. Also - gross.)</span></em></p><p><span>What I&#8217;m getting at here is that the healing factor has an endpoint.</span></p><p><span>And that </span><em><span>Logan </span></em><span>is one of the best Wolverine stories ever. </span></p><h2><strong><span>Why Wolverine&#8217;s Healing Factor Fails in </span></strong><em><strong><span>Logan</span></strong></em></h2><p><span>In </span><em><span>Logan</span></em><span>, we saw an aging Wolverine, </span><em><span>knowing</span></em><span> that his end was coming.</span></p><p><span>Well, yeah. He cannot live forever. He&#8217;s not Superman.</span></p><p><span>Any modestly realistic maintenance system is going to gradually get slower and lose the race against accumulated damage. For decades, Logan&#8217;s system has been working to correct regular cellular damage, repeated catastrophic injuries, toxin exposure, adamantium poisoning, and just the wear and tear on his body from living as long as he has.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-nyt!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4e7e61af-c17b-4aba-b33d-87c94da48c45_768x512.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-nyt!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4e7e61af-c17b-4aba-b33d-87c94da48c45_768x512.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-nyt!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4e7e61af-c17b-4aba-b33d-87c94da48c45_768x512.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-nyt!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4e7e61af-c17b-4aba-b33d-87c94da48c45_768x512.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-nyt!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4e7e61af-c17b-4aba-b33d-87c94da48c45_768x512.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-nyt!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4e7e61af-c17b-4aba-b33d-87c94da48c45_768x512.jpeg" width="768" height="512" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/4e7e61af-c17b-4aba-b33d-87c94da48c45_768x512.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:512,&quot;width&quot;:768,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;An injured Logan lies on the ground with his adamantium claws extended as armed soldiers surround him.&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="An injured Logan lies on the ground with his adamantium claws extended as armed soldiers surround him." title="An injured Logan lies on the ground with his adamantium claws extended as armed soldiers surround him." srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-nyt!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4e7e61af-c17b-4aba-b33d-87c94da48c45_768x512.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-nyt!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4e7e61af-c17b-4aba-b33d-87c94da48c45_768x512.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-nyt!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4e7e61af-c17b-4aba-b33d-87c94da48c45_768x512.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-nyt!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4e7e61af-c17b-4aba-b33d-87c94da48c45_768x512.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Devilishly handsome, but still, nowhere near the man he used to be (Image: 20th Century Fox)</em></figcaption></figure></div><p><span>Logan&#8217;s body has spent a lifetime continuously correcting itself back into Wolverine. By the time of </span><em><span>Logan</span></em><span>, the errors are arriving faster than they can be corrected. Aging is what happens when error-correcting becomes imperfect. Even if we go with the idea of the healing factor healing </span><em><span>itself</span></em><span>, we&#8217;ll end up going down the same road eventually. </span></p><p><span>Death is when the system cannot cross the gap between what </span><em><span>is</span></em><span> there and what </span><em><span>should </span></em><span>be there. Eventually, remaining Wolverine costs more than Wolverine can pay.</span></p><p><span>And in the film, we saw Logan, a warrior until the very end, coming to terms with this and choosing to end his story on his own terms.</span></p><h2><span>Keeping Wolverine, Wolverine</span></h2><p><span>In the end, Wolverine&#8217;s healing factor isn&#8217;t just accelerated wound repair. For it to work as we&#8217;ve come to see over the past 50+ years, it&#8217;s his </span><em><span>entire </span></em><span>body engaged in unending self-preservation, not just keeping him alive, but rebuilding the boundary between Logan and everything that&#8217;s trying to turn him into something else. The mutation isn&#8217;t about just repairing his body; it&#8217;s about preserving the </span><em><span>pattern </span></em><span>we call Wolverine.</span></p><p><span>It&#8217;s an amazing mutation, loaded with possibilities and potential for incredible stories and scenes, and it&#8217;s also a springboard, as we&#8217;ve used it here for thinking about science and deeper topics.</span></p><p><span>And it has an endpoint. Bodies can&#8217;t regrow and heal forever. But instead of taking the fun out of it, working through his healing factor adds more than it takes away and makes Logan&#8217;s story long and rich, full of possibilities and opportunities until the final page is written. </span></p><p><em><strong><span>Got a favorite example of Wolverine&#8217;s healing factor not mentioned here? A story I need to know about where identity gets a mention with the whole healing process? Let me know in the comments!</span></strong></em></p><p><em><strong>Curiosity is what brought me here.</strong></em></p><p><em><strong>Teaching is what I do with it.</strong></em></p><p><em><strong><span>If you&#8217;d like to read more about education, classrooms, students, and the craft of teaching, you&#8217;ll find those stories in </span><a href="https://bradyteach.substack.com/">Teacher, Teacher</a><span>.</span></strong></em></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[The Science of Avengers: Doomsday: Can Universes Really Collide?]]></title><description><![CDATA[Marvel built its multiverse from four different ideas in physics. They give it alternate Earths and cosmic collisions&#8212;but not the door between them.]]></description><link>https://www.thescienceof.org/p/the-science-of-avengers-doomsday</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.thescienceof.org/p/the-science-of-avengers-doomsday</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt Brady]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2026 14:24:12 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/745002dc-57be-405f-a1d2-4f6bf2bc6e0e_310x163.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Artifact Recovered: original version publication date: 5/3/22</em></p><p><em>This piece was originally published on a previous version of The Science Of and has been recovered from the digital strata. It&#8217;s re-presented here because it&#8217;s useful, weird, fascinating, updated, or some combination of the four. This piece was heavily updated to reflect the Avengers: Doomsday connection and updated science since its original publication.</em></p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading The Science Of...! Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support my work.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p><span>The Marvel Cinematic multiverse is about to have a terrible, horrible, no good, very bad day.</span></p><p><span>In </span><em><span>Avengers: Doomsday</span></em><span>, heroes from</span><em><span> three different universes</span></em><span> are set on a collision course. Then comes </span><em><span>Secret Wars </span></em><span>a year later, where (if the movie borrows even loosely from the comics) the walls separating those universes may come down altogether, leaving the MCU with one, streamlined universe.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!n5Wp!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbc6369c9-f2c4-41e0-872a-61d4dc4c40ff_1300x730.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!n5Wp!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbc6369c9-f2c4-41e0-872a-61d4dc4c40ff_1300x730.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!n5Wp!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbc6369c9-f2c4-41e0-872a-61d4dc4c40ff_1300x730.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!n5Wp!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbc6369c9-f2c4-41e0-872a-61d4dc4c40ff_1300x730.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!n5Wp!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbc6369c9-f2c4-41e0-872a-61d4dc4c40ff_1300x730.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!n5Wp!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbc6369c9-f2c4-41e0-872a-61d4dc4c40ff_1300x730.jpeg" width="1300" height="730" 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inside a futuristic headquarters in Avengers: Doomsday." title="The Avengers, Fantastic Four, Wakandans and X-Men face Thor inside a futuristic headquarters in Avengers: Doomsday." srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!n5Wp!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbc6369c9-f2c4-41e0-872a-61d4dc4c40ff_1300x730.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!n5Wp!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbc6369c9-f2c4-41e0-872a-61d4dc4c40ff_1300x730.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!n5Wp!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbc6369c9-f2c4-41e0-872a-61d4dc4c40ff_1300x730.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!n5Wp!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbc6369c9-f2c4-41e0-872a-61d4dc4c40ff_1300x730.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Earth&#8217;s Mightiest Heroes are going to need a larger conference room. Avengers: Doomsday brings together the Avengers, Wakandans, Fantastic Four and X-Men&#8212;heroes whose worlds may be more separate than the room makes them appear. (Image: Dianey/Marvel)</em></figcaption></figure></div><p><span>Before Doctor Doom starts mashing realities together, we should probably settle a fairly important question:</span></p><p><span>What exactly is a &#8220;universe,&#8221; and what do physicists mean when they say there might be more than one?</span></p><p><span>There was a time when the multiverse was specialized knowledge shared mostly by comic-book fans (&#8220;Flash of Two Worlds&#8221; and everything after, yo) and theoretical physicists. There&#8217;s a combination for you. Now everyone knows what a multiverse is.</span></p><p><span>Or thinks they do. No shade meant, my nerds. </span></p><p><span>Marvel uses </span><em><span>universe</span></em><span>, </span><em><span>timeline</span></em><span>, </span><em><span>dimension</span></em><span>, </span><em><span>world,</span></em><span> and </span><em><span>reality</span></em><span> as though all five words came free in the same box. In </span><em><span>Avengers: Endgame</span></em><span> and </span><em><span>Loki</span></em><span>, timelines branch when events unfold differently. Elsewhere, parallel universes appear to exist independently, complete with their own histories and inhabitants. And in </span><em><span>Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness</span></em><span>, entire universes can collide in events called incursions.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!x539!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdb2f14dc-03ea-46a6-ab94-9dc87a59fb9c_1523x848.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!x539!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdb2f14dc-03ea-46a6-ab94-9dc87a59fb9c_1523x848.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!x539!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdb2f14dc-03ea-46a6-ab94-9dc87a59fb9c_1523x848.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!x539!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdb2f14dc-03ea-46a6-ab94-9dc87a59fb9c_1523x848.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!x539!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdb2f14dc-03ea-46a6-ab94-9dc87a59fb9c_1523x848.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!x539!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdb2f14dc-03ea-46a6-ab94-9dc87a59fb9c_1523x848.jpeg" width="1456" height="811" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/db2f14dc-03ea-46a6-ab94-9dc87a59fb9c_1523x848.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:811,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:69263,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Channing Tatum as Gambit, his eyes glowing purple during his battle with Shang-Chi in Avengers: Doomsday.&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/i/208883394?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdb2f14dc-03ea-46a6-ab94-9dc87a59fb9c_1523x848.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Channing Tatum as Gambit, his eyes glowing purple during his battle with Shang-Chi in Avengers: Doomsday." title="Channing Tatum as Gambit, his eyes glowing purple during his battle with Shang-Chi in Avengers: Doomsday." srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!x539!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdb2f14dc-03ea-46a6-ab94-9dc87a59fb9c_1523x848.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!x539!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdb2f14dc-03ea-46a6-ab94-9dc87a59fb9c_1523x848.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!x539!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdb2f14dc-03ea-46a6-ab94-9dc87a59fb9c_1523x848.jpeg 1272w, 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(Image: Disney/Marvel) </em></figcaption></figure></div><p><span>Those are not alternate names for the same thing. They are different ideas wearing one very large multiverse trench coat.</span></p><p><span>This is going to be a deep dive, so buckle up. </span></p><h2><strong><span>So What Counts as a Universe?</span></strong></h2><p><span>Let&#8217;s start with the least exotic kind of multiverse, the one that may not be a multiverse at all. The one we can see. </span></p><p><span>We can see only the parts of the cosmos whose light has had time to reach us. That region is called the </span><strong><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observable_universe"><span>observable universe</span></a></strong><span>, and it extends roughly 46 billion light-years in every direction.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!y100!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff106f2cb-77da-4bff-87b8-675ce3f0c9f7_960x960.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!y100!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff106f2cb-77da-4bff-87b8-675ce3f0c9f7_960x960.jpeg 424w, 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srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!y100!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff106f2cb-77da-4bff-87b8-675ce3f0c9f7_960x960.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!y100!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff106f2cb-77da-4bff-87b8-675ce3f0c9f7_960x960.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!y100!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff106f2cb-77da-4bff-87b8-675ce3f0c9f7_960x960.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!y100!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff106f2cb-77da-4bff-87b8-675ce3f0c9f7_960x960.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em><span>Circular representation of the observable universe on a logarithmic scale. Distance from Earth increases exponentially from center to edge. Celestial bodies were enlarged to appreciate their shapes. (Image: </span><a href="https://pablocarlosbudassi.com/"><span>Pablo Budassi</span></a><span>)</span></em></figcaption></figure></div><p><span>Wait. The universe is about 13.8 billion years old. How can we see something 46 billion light-years away?</span></p><p><span>Because the universe expanded while the light was traveling. The objects that emitted the oldest light we see were much closer when that light began its journey. Space </span><em><span>stretched</span></em><span>. They are now much farther away.</span></p><p><span>But the edge of the observable universe isn&#8217;t the edge of anything </span><em><span>physical</span></em><span>. There&#8217;s no wall there. No drop-off. It&#8217;s simply the farthest boundary from which light has been able to reach us.</span></p><p><span>Beyond it, there may be considerably more universe.</span></p><p><span>Not another universe, necessarily. Just more of this one.</span></p><p><span>Picture the cosmos as an enormous quilt in a dark room. The observable universe is the circular patch illuminated by our flashlight.</span></p><p><span>Move the flashlight, and you reveal a different patch. Move it only a little, and the two circles overlap. Move it far enough, and you uncover a region containing galaxies whose light has never reached us&#8212;and may never reach us.</span></p><p><span>Cosmologist Max Tegmark calls this a </span><strong><span>Level I multiverse</span></strong><span>, although the name makes it sound more exotic than it is. These regions wouldn&#8217;t have different laws of physics, extra dimensions, or evil versions of you with sinister facial hair. They would simply be unimaginably distant parts of the same cosmic quilt.</span></p><p><span>The universe may continue far beyond the patch we can see. It may even continue forever.</span></p><p><span>And if it does, things start getting weird again.</span></p><p><span>An infinite universe contains an infinite amount of </span><em><span>stuff</span></em><span>&#8212;but infinity alone does not guarantee another Earth.</span></p><p><span>For that, we need a few additional assumptions. Matter must be spread more or less uniformly across the larger cosmos. A region the size of our observable universe must have only a finite number of possible arrangements. And those arrangements must be distributed with enough randomness that, given infinite space, they eventually begin to repeat.</span></p><p><span>If all of that is true, then somewhere beyond the cosmic horizon is another Earth.</span></p><p><span>Keep going, and there should be another you. Then another. There&#8217;s a variation of you who became a physicist. A you who speaks German. A you with a deeply regrettable mustache. And eventually, you&#8217;re sitting on their device, reading this exact same sentence while another version of me wrote it.</span></p><p><span>Infinity is weird.</span></p><p><span>These wouldn&#8217;t be alternate timelines created when someone made a different decision. They would be ordinary collections of matter, unimaginably far away, that happened to fall into familiar arrangements.</span></p><p><span>How far away?</span></p><p><a href="https://arxiv.org/abs/0905.1283"><span>Tegmark estimated</span></a><span> that the nearest region containing a person identical to you might be about 10</span><sup><span>10^29</span></sup><span> meters away.</span></p><p><span>That number is not a typo. It is a 1 followed by roughly 100 octillion zeroes.</span></p><p><span>So yes, another you may be out there.</span></p><p><span>No, you are not going to visit.</span></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/p/the-science-of-avengers-doomsday?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.thescienceof.org/p/the-science-of-avengers-doomsday?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p><h2><strong><span>Universes Blowing Bubbles</span></strong></h2><p><span>So far, our &#8220;multiverse&#8221; has consisted of distant regions of one enormous (and possibly infinite) universe. But what about just&#8230; &#8220;more&#8221; universes? </span></p><p><span>Actually, there is a way to make those. Theoretically. </span></p><p><span>To cook up more universes, we have to go back to a tiny fraction of a second after the Big Bang, when the infant universe may have undergone an extraordinarily brief period of expansion called </span><strong><span>cosmic inflation</span></strong><span>.</span></p><p><span>&#8220;Extraordinarily brief&#8221; barely begins to describe it. Inflation may have begun around 10</span><sup><span>-36</span></sup><span> seconds after the Big Bang and ended by roughly 10</span><sup><span>-32</span></sup><span> seconds after. During that sliver of time, space expanded by a crazy amount.</span></p><p><span>Physicist </span><a href="https://physics.mit.edu/faculty/alan-guth"><span>Alan Guth</span></a><span> proposed inflation in 1981 to explain several suspicious things about our universe: why it looks so nearly flat, why distant regions have almost the same temperature even though they appear never to have been in contact, and why the cosmos is so remarkably uniform on its largest scales.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aPRX!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffe897d94-74c1-4047-8d87-7b3414ca4aa9_5760x3240.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aPRX!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffe897d94-74c1-4047-8d87-7b3414ca4aa9_5760x3240.jpeg" width="1456" height="819" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/fe897d94-74c1-4047-8d87-7b3414ca4aa9_5760x3240.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:819,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:1971411,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;A funnel-shaped illustration of the expanding universe, with galaxies spreading through a curved spacetime grid from the bright Big Bang at left to the present day at right.&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/i/208883394?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffe897d94-74c1-4047-8d87-7b3414ca4aa9_5760x3240.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="A funnel-shaped illustration of the expanding universe, with galaxies spreading through a curved spacetime grid from the bright Big Bang at left to the present day at right." title="A funnel-shaped illustration of the expanding universe, with galaxies spreading through a curved spacetime grid from the bright Big Bang at left to the present day at right." srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aPRX!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffe897d94-74c1-4047-8d87-7b3414ca4aa9_5760x3240.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aPRX!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffe897d94-74c1-4047-8d87-7b3414ca4aa9_5760x3240.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aPRX!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffe897d94-74c1-4047-8d87-7b3414ca4aa9_5760x3240.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aPRX!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffe897d94-74c1-4047-8d87-7b3414ca4aa9_5760x3240.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>A representation of the evolution of the universe over 13.77 billion years. The far left depicts the earliest moment we can now probe, when a period of "inflation" produced a burst of exponential growth in the universe. (Size is depicted by the vertical extent of the grid in this graphic.) For the next several billion years, the expansion of the universe gradually slowed down as the matter in the universe pulled on itself via gravity. More recently, the expansion has begun to speed up again as the repulsive effects of dark energy have come to dominate the expansion of the universe. (Image, caption: NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center) </em></figcaption></figure></div><p><a href="https://arxiv.org/abs/hep-th/0702178"><span>Inflation smooths those problems out</span></a><span>&#8212;almost literally. Take a tiny, wrinkled scrap of spacetime and stretch it violently enough, and the part you can see begins to look flat and even.</span></p><p><span>But some versions of inflation come with an unexpected complication: inflation may not have ended everywhere at once.</span></p><p><span>In one region, inflation stops. Its energy transforms into matter and radiation, producing a hot, expanding cosmos like ours. Elsewhere, inflation continues, stretching space at a staggering rate. Then it stops in another region. And another.</span></p><p><span>Each region where inflation ends becomes what cosmologists call a</span><strong><span> bubble universe</span></strong><span> or </span><strong><span>pocket universe</span></strong><span>.</span></p><p><span>The larger inflating space keeps producing bubbles while also expanding fast enough to make room for still more bubbles.</span></p><p><span>It&#8217;s a universe factory whose factory floor grows faster than it can fill it.</span></p><p><span>The bubble image is useful; try to resist going too far with the metaphor. These universes aren&#8217;t soap bubbles floating through some larger cosmic room. That would require an even bigger room, followed immediately by the question of what </span><em><span>that</span></em><span> room is sitting in, and now we&#8217;ve ruined everyone&#8217;s afternoon.</span></p><p><span>A bubble universe is a region of spacetime where inflation has ended. Its &#8220;outside&#8221; is still-inflating spacetime, expanding so rapidly that neighboring bubbles may remain permanently separated even while each grows enormously on the inside.</span></p><p><span>Depending on the model, different bubbles could also settle into different physical states. The fundamental forces might have different strengths. Particles might have different masses. The cosmological constant might be larger, smaller, or catastrophically unfriendly to the formation of stars, planets, and anything else.</span></p><p><span>The underlying physics would still come from the same larger theory. But each bubble could be running that physics with different settings.</span></p><p><span>Now for the part Doctor Doom would care about:</span></p><p><strong><span>Bubbles might collide.</span></strong></p><p><span>Not with planets slamming together along a glowing seam in the sky. A collision would disturb the structure of spacetime where the bubbles met. Some models predict that such an ancient collision could leave a circular scar in the cosmic microwave background&#8212;the oldest light in the universe.</span></p><p><span>Scientists have looked for those scars.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gEdE!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F268f2201-6a0c-4d36-b58d-93b2113a9590_4096x2048.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gEdE!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F268f2201-6a0c-4d36-b58d-93b2113a9590_4096x2048.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gEdE!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F268f2201-6a0c-4d36-b58d-93b2113a9590_4096x2048.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gEdE!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F268f2201-6a0c-4d36-b58d-93b2113a9590_4096x2048.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gEdE!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F268f2201-6a0c-4d36-b58d-93b2113a9590_4096x2048.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gEdE!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F268f2201-6a0c-4d36-b58d-93b2113a9590_4096x2048.png" width="1456" height="728" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/268f2201-6a0c-4d36-b58d-93b2113a9590_4096x2048.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:728,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Oval, full-sky map of the cosmic microwave background, with blue, green, yellow and red regions showing tiny temperature variations in the early universe.&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Oval, full-sky map of the cosmic microwave background, with blue, green, yellow and red regions showing tiny temperature variations in the early universe." title="Oval, full-sky map of the cosmic microwave background, with blue, green, yellow and red regions showing tiny temperature variations in the early universe." srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gEdE!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F268f2201-6a0c-4d36-b58d-93b2113a9590_4096x2048.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gEdE!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F268f2201-6a0c-4d36-b58d-93b2113a9590_4096x2048.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gEdE!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F268f2201-6a0c-4d36-b58d-93b2113a9590_4096x2048.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gEdE!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F268f2201-6a0c-4d36-b58d-93b2113a9590_4096x2048.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>The cosmic microwave background is the universe&#8217;s oldest baby picture&#8212;and one place scientists have searched for the circular scars of collisions with other bubble universes. So far, no convincing scars have appeared. (Image: NASA)</em></figcaption></figure></div><p><span>So far, they </span><a href="https://arxiv.org/abs/1305.1964"><span>haven&#8217;t found a convincing one</span></a><span>.</span></p><p><span>Bubble universes therefore give Marvel something it desperately wants: distinct universes that can, at least theoretically, collide.</span></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.thescienceof.org/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><h2><strong><span>Every Outcome Happens - Maybe</span></strong></h2><p><span>Bubble universes give Marvel separate universes. But they don&#8217;t give it the branching timelines of the Time Variance Authority.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oiCV!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa07c9f69-3e1e-445e-80d0-0e0c532e2733_1200x676.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oiCV!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa07c9f69-3e1e-445e-80d0-0e0c532e2733_1200x676.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oiCV!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa07c9f69-3e1e-445e-80d0-0e0c532e2733_1200x676.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oiCV!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa07c9f69-3e1e-445e-80d0-0e0c532e2733_1200x676.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oiCV!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa07c9f69-3e1e-445e-80d0-0e0c532e2733_1200x676.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oiCV!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa07c9f69-3e1e-445e-80d0-0e0c532e2733_1200x676.jpeg" width="1200" height="676" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/a07c9f69-3e1e-445e-80d0-0e0c532e2733_1200x676.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:676,&quot;width&quot;:1200,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Loki sits on a throne surrounded by glowing green strands representing branching timelines in the Loki Season 2 finale.&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Loki sits on a throne surrounded by glowing green strands representing branching timelines in the Loki Season 2 finale." title="Loki sits on a throne surrounded by glowing green strands representing branching timelines in the Loki Season 2 finale." srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oiCV!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa07c9f69-3e1e-445e-80d0-0e0c532e2733_1200x676.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oiCV!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa07c9f69-3e1e-445e-80d0-0e0c532e2733_1200x676.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oiCV!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa07c9f69-3e1e-445e-80d0-0e0c532e2733_1200x676.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oiCV!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa07c9f69-3e1e-445e-80d0-0e0c532e2733_1200x676.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Loki finally gets his throne&#8212;and a full-time job holding Marvel&#8217;s branching timelines together. Quantum mechanics offers no throne, no TVA, and no guarantee that the branches can ever meet again. (Image: Disney+/Marvel)</em></figcaption></figure></div><p><span>For those, we need </span><strong><span>quantum mechanics</span></strong><span>.</span></p><p><span>This is the territory Marvel enters in </span><em><span>Avengers: Endgame</span></em><span>, </span><em><span>Loki,</span></em><span> and </span><em><span>What If&#8230;?</span></em><span> A decision changes. An event unfolds differently. The timeline branches, producing another reality in which Loki escapes with the Tesseract, Peggy Carter receives the super-soldier serum, or Doctor Strange makes an extremely unfortunate romantic decision </span><em><span>several thousand times</span></em><span>.</span></p><p><span>It&#8217;s wonderfully clean storytelling.</span></p><p><span>The physics is not that considerate.</span></p><p><span>In 1957, graduate student Hugh Everett III proposed what he called the </span><strong><span>relative-state formulation</span></strong><span> of quantum mechanics. The name &#8220;Many-Worlds Interpretation&#8221; came later, but it captured the part everyone noticed:</span></p><p><span>When a quantum event has several possible outcomes, the universe does not choose one and discard the others.</span></p><p><span>They all happen.</span></p><p><span>In the usual simplified account of quantum mechanics, a particle can exist in a combination of possible states called a </span><strong><span>superposition</span></strong><span>. Measure it, and that superposition appears to collapse into one definite result.</span></p><p><a href="https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/qm-everett/"><span>Everett&#8217;s big move was to remove the collapse</span></a><span>.</span></p><p><span>The quantum state continues evolving, with each possible result represented in a different branch. In one branch, the detector records one outcome. In another, it records the other. An observer becomes part of that branching process, seeing a definite result in each branch while remaining unaware of the others.</span></p><p><span>Nobody has to bomb the Sacred Timeline. The universe does all the branching itself.</span></p><p><span>This is where Schr&#246;dinger&#8217;s cat gets dragged into the box.</span></p><p><span>The cat is sealed inside with a radioactive atom, a radiation detector, and a mechanism that releases poison if the atom decays. Quantum mechanics allows the atom&#8217;s undecayed and decayed states to exist in superposition. Connect those states to the machinery and the cat becomes entangled with them:</span></p><p><span>Atom intact. Cat alive.</span></p><p><span>Atom decayed. Cat dead.</span></p><p><span>Schr&#246;dinger devised the thought experiment to show how ridiculous quantum superposition becomes when extended to an entire cat. He was making a point, not proposing an exciting new method of pet ownership.</span></p><p><span>In a collapse interpretation, opening the box yields a single definite result. In Many Worlds, nothing collapses. The cat, the detector, the box and eventually the person opening it all become entangled in the larger quantum state. One version of the observer finds a living cat. Another finds a dead one.</span></p><p><span>But the observer&#8217;s decision to open the box does not create the branches. Consciousness isn&#8217;t the trigger. The cat does not wait in quantum limbo until somebody bothers to look.</span></p><p><span>The crucial process is </span><strong><span>decoherence</span></strong><span>.</span></p><p><span>Quantum systems do not remain politely isolated. They interact with air molecules, light, heat and everything else around them. Information about their possible states spreads into the environment. The alternatives rapidly lose their ability to interfere with one another and begin behaving like separate, effectively classical histories.</span></p><p><span>This happens constantly and unimaginably quickly. There is no cosmic alarm that sounds when Loki picks up the Tesseract. No judge deciding that one choice is important enough to qualify as a Nexus Event.</span></p><p><a href="https://www.marvel.com/articles/movies/loki-led-us-to-doctor-strange-multiverse-of-madness"><span>Marvel has the order backward</span></a><span>. Loki&#8217;s decision doesn&#8217;t make the universe branch. If Many Worlds is correct, the quantum processes inside Loki, the Tesseract, the floor beneath them, and every photon bouncing around the room have already been producing an extraordinarily complicated branching structure.</span></p><p><span>By the way, the branches don&#8217;t all peel off and get sorted and stored. Remember, we&#8217;re in a single universe (think of the bubbles). All the branches remain parts of the same universe, but are separated within an abstract mathematical realm called </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hilbert_space"><span>Hilbert Space</span></a><span>. </span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yX5U!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbc392093-d363-4f74-b362-22531a87fcf5_1200x900.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yX5U!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbc392093-d363-4f74-b362-22531a87fcf5_1200x900.jpeg 424w, 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forward with her Union Jack shield in front of Berlin&#8217;s Brandenburg Gate in Marvel&#8217;s What If&#8230;?" title="Animated Captain Carter charges forward with her Union Jack shield in front of Berlin&#8217;s Brandenburg Gate in Marvel&#8217;s What If&#8230;?" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yX5U!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbc392093-d363-4f74-b362-22531a87fcf5_1200x900.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yX5U!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbc392093-d363-4f74-b362-22531a87fcf5_1200x900.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yX5U!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbc392093-d363-4f74-b362-22531a87fcf5_1200x900.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yX5U!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbc392093-d363-4f74-b362-22531a87fcf5_1200x900.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Captain Carter is what happens when Marvel follows one dramatic choice into another reality. In Many-Worlds quantum mechanics, the branching began long before Peggy Carter picked up the shield. (Image: Disney+/Marvel)</em></figcaption></figure></div><p><span>The dramatic choice is merely where the writers decide to start paying attention to the event that causes a split, and what&#8217;s different in that timeline.</span></p><p><span>And that creates </span><a href="https://www.marvel.com/articles/tv-shows/loki-episode-1-event-report-recap"><span>a fairly serious problem for Marvel</span></a><span>.</span></p><p><span>Once those branches decohere, they are not supposed to remain neighboring roads that someone can revisit with the right wrist-mounted gadget.</span></p><p><span>The TVA treats branching timelines like physical roads. Agents step from one to another using TemPads. Reset Charges </span><a href="https://www.marvel.com/articles/tv-shows/loki-episode-5-event-report-recap"><span>prune unwanted branches</span></a><span>. The Time Loom organizes the survivors. By the end of </span><em><span>Loki season 2</span></em><span>, the whole collection of timelines can be gathered up and held like the glowing roots of an extremely consequential tree.</span></p><p><span>That is </span><em><span>excellent </span></em><span>television.</span></p><p><span>It is </span><em><span>not </span></em><span>Many Worlds.</span></p><p><span>An Everett branch is not a miniature universe sitting beside ours at a slightly different cosmic address. The branches remain parts of one universal quantum state. Decoherence prevents their different outcomes from producing observable interference, making each branch behave as though the others no longer exist.</span></p><p><span>&#8220;As though&#8221; matters.</span></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share The Science Of...&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.thescienceof.org/?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share"><span>Share The Science Of...</span></a></p><p><span>Quantum mechanics is reversible at its foundations. The information connecting the branches is not necessarily destroyed; it has been dispersed into the environment. In principle, interference could be restored if every interaction responsible for the decoherence were </span><em><span>precisely </span></em><span>reversed.</span></p><p><span>All you would have to do is locate and control every air molecule, photon, vibration and particle that carried away information about the event, then return every one of them to exactly the right quantum state.</span></p><p><span>So: easy.</span></p><p><span>For a carefully isolated electron, scientists can preserve or recover interference. For Loki, the Tesseract, the room around them and the rest of the universe, the required information has spread so far and become entangled with so many particles that reversing the process is effectively impossible.</span></p><p><span>A TemPad would not merely need to locate another timeline. It would have to reconstruct and manipulate the quantum state of an entire macroscopic history.</span></p><p><span>Pruning creates another problem. Many Worlds preserves every outcome through the continuous evolution of the universal wavefunction. It offers no mechanism for deleting one branch while leaving the others untouched.</span></p><p><span>Marvel apparently noticed at least part of this problem. </span><em><span>Loki</span></em><span> eventually reveals that pruning does not actually erase matter. It dumps the pruned objects&#8212;and people&#8212;into the Void at the end of time.</span></p><p><span>The TVA is not destroying timelines. It is taking out the multiversal trash.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lC7s!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F68d43cae-87a5-4b9d-af68-1e8f4a358388_825x413.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lC7s!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F68d43cae-87a5-4b9d-af68-1e8f4a358388_825x413.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lC7s!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F68d43cae-87a5-4b9d-af68-1e8f4a358388_825x413.jpeg 848w, 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data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/68d43cae-87a5-4b9d-af68-1e8f4a358388_825x413.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:413,&quot;width&quot;:825,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Vintage television screen in the TVA displaying a branching diagram of multiple possible histories diverging from shared paths.&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Vintage television screen in the TVA displaying a branching diagram of multiple possible histories diverging from shared paths." title="Vintage television screen in the TVA displaying a branching diagram of multiple possible histories diverging from shared paths." srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lC7s!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F68d43cae-87a5-4b9d-af68-1e8f4a358388_825x413.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lC7s!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F68d43cae-87a5-4b9d-af68-1e8f4a358388_825x413.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lC7s!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F68d43cae-87a5-4b9d-af68-1e8f4a358388_825x413.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lC7s!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F68d43cae-87a5-4b9d-af68-1e8f4a358388_825x413.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div 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stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>One universe, an ever-growing number of branches&#8212;and absolutely no convenient way to hop from one to another. (Image: Disney+/Marvel)</em></figcaption></figure></div><p><span>And none of this gives us an incursion. Everett branches are not objects floating beside one another in space. They do not have surfaces that can collide, planets that can overlap, or boundaries Doctor Strange can accidentally weaken.</span></p><p><span>Many Worlds gives Marvel all the alternate outcomes it could ever want.</span></p><p><span>It just won&#8217;t let Marvel visit them.</span></p><p><span>We know branches can affect one another before decoherence completely separates them because quantum alternatives can produce </span><strong><span>interference</span></strong><span>. That brings us to the most famous experiment in quantum mechanics: Young&#8217;s Double-Slit Experiment. </span></p><p><span>The experiment begins with a wall containing two narrow slits and a detecting screen behind it.</span></p><p><span>Fire ordinary particles at that wall&#8212;tiny BBs, say&#8212;and you expect two clusters on the screen. Some pass through the left slit. Some pass through the right. Two slits. Two bands. Completely reasonable.</span></p><p><span>Light, electrons, and other very small pieces of stuff refuse to be that cooperative.</span></p><p><span>Send light through both slits, and it spreads outward in overlapping waves. Where the crests meet, they reinforce one another. Where a crest meets a trough, they cancel. The screen shows an </span><strong><span>interference pattern</span></strong><span>: alternating bright and dark bands.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MaZW!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F27952c1f-78c8-4a5b-8bb1-baf8d94c2090_600x300.svg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MaZW!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F27952c1f-78c8-4a5b-8bb1-baf8d94c2090_600x300.svg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MaZW!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F27952c1f-78c8-4a5b-8bb1-baf8d94c2090_600x300.svg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MaZW!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F27952c1f-78c8-4a5b-8bb1-baf8d94c2090_600x300.svg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MaZW!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F27952c1f-78c8-4a5b-8bb1-baf8d94c2090_600x300.svg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MaZW!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F27952c1f-78c8-4a5b-8bb1-baf8d94c2090_600x300.svg" width="1456" height="728" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/27952c1f-78c8-4a5b-8bb1-baf8d94c2090_600x300.svg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:728,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Double-slit experiment - Wikipedia&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Double-slit experiment - Wikipedia" title="Double-slit experiment - Wikipedia" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MaZW!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F27952c1f-78c8-4a5b-8bb1-baf8d94c2090_600x300.svg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MaZW!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F27952c1f-78c8-4a5b-8bb1-baf8d94c2090_600x300.svg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MaZW!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F27952c1f-78c8-4a5b-8bb1-baf8d94c2090_600x300.svg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MaZW!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F27952c1f-78c8-4a5b-8bb1-baf8d94c2090_600x300.svg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Fire ordinary particles through two slits, and you get two bands. Send light through them, and light turns a perfectly reasonable experiment into an argument about the nature of reality. (Image: Wikipedia)</em></figcaption></figure></div><p><span>Fine. Light is a wave.</span></p><p><span>Except light also arrives at the screen in individual packets called photons.</span></p><p><span>So turn the source down. Send the photons through one at a time.</span></p><p><span>Each photon arrives at one specific point. A dot appears on the screen. Then another. And another. At first, the dots look random.</span></p><p><span>Keep going.</span></p><p><span>Slowly, the interference pattern returns.</span></p><p><span>One photon at a time, the universe draws a wave pattern.</span></p><p><span>That should bother you at least a little.</span></p><p><span>There is never a second photon traveling beside the first, giving it something to interfere with. Each photon behaves as though both possible paths, the left slit and the right, contribute to where it eventually lands.</span></p><p><a href="https://physics.aps.org/articles/v6/133"><span>This is not a tiny particle secretly checking both hallways</span></a><span> like a TVA agent looking for the correct Loki. Quantum mechanics describes it using a wavefunction that contains amplitudes for both paths. Those amplitudes meet on the far side of the barrier and interfere, changing the probability that the photon will appear at each point on the screen.</span></p><p><span>The photon still arrives as one dot.</span></p><p><span>But the pattern formed by thousands of those dots contains information from both possible paths.</span></p><p><span>Now place a detector at the slits that can determine which path the photon took.</span></p><p><span>The interference pattern disappears.</span></p><p><span>This is usually described as the photon &#8220;knowing it is being watched,&#8221; which is a wonderful sentence if your goal is to make quantum mechanics sound haunted.</span></p><p><span>But the photon knows nothing. A conscious observer is not required. The detector must physically interact with the photon to record which-path information. That interaction entangles the photon with the detector and its surroundings. The two paths become distinguishable, decoherence takes over, and the interference is lost.</span></p><p><span>In Marvel terms, the alternatives can affect the same outcome only while they remain part of the same coherent quantum story.</span></p><p><span>Once the universe has recorded enough information to distinguish &#8220;photon went left&#8221; from &#8220;photon went right,&#8221; the alternatives stop behaving like two Avengers teaming up in the same third-act battle. They become separate histories that can no longer coordinate.</span></p><p><span>Many Worlds offers one way to understand what happened. The wavefunction never collapses. Both alternatives remain within the total quantum state, and their amplitudes produce the interference pattern while they are still coherent.</span></p><p><span>But this is not evidence that two fully formed universes briefly opened portals and fired photons at one another. These are quantum alternatives within a single experiment, before environmental interaction has separated them into effectively independent branches.</span></p><p><span>The double-slit experiment therefore shows us something stranger&#8212;and more restrained&#8212;than Marvel&#8217;s multiverse.</span></p><p><span>Reality can contain several possible paths at once. Those possibilities can interfere. And from that interference, one definite dot appears on a screen.</span></p><p><span>Then we do it again.</span></p><p><span>And again.</span></p><p><span>And probability slowly becomes a picture.</span></p><h2><strong><span>Two Universes Walk Into&#8230;Each Other</span></strong></h2><p><span>Many Worlds gives Marvel branching realities but refuses to let them collide.</span></p><p>For that, we need something with a little more structural integrity.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Gzch!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F16379b38-c1c8-4408-b1e3-f48139eca7e4_1821x2800.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Gzch!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F16379b38-c1c8-4408-b1e3-f48139eca7e4_1821x2800.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Gzch!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F16379b38-c1c8-4408-b1e3-f48139eca7e4_1821x2800.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Gzch!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F16379b38-c1c8-4408-b1e3-f48139eca7e4_1821x2800.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Gzch!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F16379b38-c1c8-4408-b1e3-f48139eca7e4_1821x2800.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Gzch!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F16379b38-c1c8-4408-b1e3-f48139eca7e4_1821x2800.jpeg" width="580" height="891.9093406593406" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/16379b38-c1c8-4408-b1e3-f48139eca7e4_1821x2800.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:2239,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:580,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Cover of Marvel&#8217;s Secret Wars #1 (2015) showing heroes from two universes pulled toward a fiery cosmic collision.&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" 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11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Marvel&#8217;s Secret Wars sends two universes&#8212;and everyone living in them&#8212;crashing together. Brane theory also allows universes to collide, although probably with fewer superheroes tumbling dramatically through the impact zone. (Image: Marvel)</em></figcaption></figure></div><p><span>We need </span><strong><span>branes</span></strong><span>.</span></p><p><span>The name is short for </span><em><span>membranes</span></em><span>, although these are not necessarily thin, floppy sheets. In string theory, a brane can have different numbers of spatial dimensions. A zero-brane is pointlike. A one-brane resembles a string. A two-brane resembles a sheet.</span></p><p><span>Our universe could&#8212;in some highly speculative models&#8212;be a </span><strong><span>three-brane</span></strong><span>: three dimensions of space embedded within a larger, higher-dimensional spacetime called the </span><strong><span>bulk</span></strong><span>.</span></p><p><span>Picture two slices of bread in a loaf. Each slice is its own three-dimensional universe. The loaf provides an additional dimension separating them.</span></p><p><span>Yes, a slice of bread is two-dimensional, and our universe has three spatial dimensions. Analogies sometimes arrive missing a dimension. We work with what we have.</span></p><p><span>Everything we know- atoms, planets, stars, Avengers- might be confined to our brane. Light could travel across it but not leave it, which would make another brane invisible even if it were nearby in the higher-dimensional bulk.</span></p><p><span>Gravity might be different. In some braneworld models, gravity can extend into the bulk. Its strength could appear weaker to us because it is spreading through dimensions the other forces cannot enter.</span></p><p><span>That idea is speculative. We have no evidence that our universe is a brane, no confirmed extra spatial dimensions, and no detected gravitons wandering off into the bulk.</span></p><p><span>But branes give Marvel something the other models could not:</span></p><p><span>Two entire universes can exist near one another without sharing the same space.</span></p><p><span>And if they can move through the bulk, they can potentially collide.</span></p><p><span>Now we have something that begins to resemble an </span><a href="https://www.marvel.com/articles/movies/doctor-strange-multiverse-of-madness-sinister-musical-note-battle"><span>incursion</span></a><span>.</span></p><p><span>Begins to.</span></p><p><span>Because when branes collide, Earth-616 does not appear in the sky above Earth-828 while both versions of New York fight over the same parking spaces. In some </span><a href="https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0370157308001877"><span>ekpyrotic and cyclic models</span></a><span>, the collision releases tremendous energy and produces conditions resembling a hot Big Bang.</span></p><blockquote><p><span>Side Note: We&#8217;ve talked before about how our universe doesn&#8217;t show any solid evidence for being cyclic, back when we </span><a href="https://www.thescienceof.org/p/science-behind-galactus-origin"><span>discussed Galactus&#8217; origin story</span></a><span>.</span></p></blockquote><p><span>In </span><em><span>Secret Wars</span></em><span> (the comic series&#8230;) Marvel&#8217;s incursions can end a universe.</span></p><p><span>A brane collision </span><a href="https://arxiv.org/abs/hep-th/0103239"><span>might begin one</span></a><span>.</span></p><p><span>Marvel&#8217;s incursions borrow the collision and leave behind almost everything else.</span></p><p><span>In </span><em><span>Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness</span></em><span>, Reed Richards explains that an incursion can begin when someone from one universe spends too much time in another. The boundary between the universes erodes. They collide. One or both may be destroyed.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vKzi!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fad6dcae4-13ee-453e-a186-fdc989378a56_959x538.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vKzi!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fad6dcae4-13ee-453e-a186-fdc989378a56_959x538.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vKzi!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fad6dcae4-13ee-453e-a186-fdc989378a56_959x538.jpeg 848w, 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data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/ad6dcae4-13ee-453e-a186-fdc989378a56_959x538.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:538,&quot;width&quot;:959,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:41015,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;John Krasinski as Reed Richards explains incursions inside the Illuminati headquarters in Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness.&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/i/208883394?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fad6dcae4-13ee-453e-a186-fdc989378a56_959x538.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="John Krasinski as Reed Richards explains 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vKzi!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fad6dcae4-13ee-453e-a186-fdc989378a56_959x538.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em><strong>Caption:</strong> Reed Richards explains Marvel&#8217;s incursions: stay too long in the wrong universe, and reality begins coming apart at the seams. Physics has several ways universes might collide. None blames the tourists. And I am still hot that Krasinski-Reed died so ignobly. (Image: Disney/Marvel)</em></figcaption></figure></div><p><span>Apparently, the multiverse has an immune system, and Doctor Strange is a particularly aggressive infection.</span></p><p><span>But what does it mean for two universes to collide?</span></p><p><span>If they are completely separate spacetimes (bubbles), Earth-616 and Earth-828 do not occupy different locations. They each contain their own locations. &#8220;New York&#8221; exists inside both universes, but the two cities cannot crash into one another any more than two people standing on different maps can bump shoulders.</span></p><p><span>Branes offer Marvel a way around that problem. Two universes could be separated along an extra dimension we cannot perceive, then move together through the higher-dimensional bulk.</span></p><p><span>But, in our science, the collision would not care about New York.</span></p><p><span>Entire branes would meet. The event could affect every point in the universe, releasing energy throughout spacetime rather than producing one convenient planetary impact zone where the Avengers can assemble.</span></p><p><span>There&#8217;s also no known reason that one person crossing between branes would pull the universes together. Doctor Strange could be obnoxious in another reality for as long as he liked without changing the distance between two universe-sized membranes.</span></p><p><span>Marvel&#8217;s incursions are therefore not brane collisions as we think about them, however theoretically. They are brane collisions rewritten as a cosmic territorial dispute: two realities discover they have been assigned the same space, and existence begins evicting one of them.</span></p><p><span>That isn&#8217;t physics.</span></p><p><span>But it is probably the closest physics has brought us to </span><em><span>Avengers: Doomsday</span></em><span>.</span></p><p><span>Bubble universes gave us separate realities. Many Worlds gave us branching outcomes. Branes gave us universes that can collide.</span></p><p><span>Marvel took one feature from each, put them together and called the result a multiverse.</span></p><p><span>Which means it is time to see whether the pieces actually fit.</span></p><h2><strong><span>Marvel&#8217;s Multiverse Is a Mash-Up</span></strong></h2><p><span>Let&#8217;s take inventory.</span></p><p><span>Physicists have proposed several ways for there to be more than one &#8220;universe.&#8221; As Marvel works it, each model provides one piece of the machinery it needs.</span></p><p><strong><span>The cosmic quilt</span></strong><span> gives us regions far beyond our observable universe. They could contain other Earths, even other versions of us (thanks infinity!), but only at distances so grotesquely enormous that </span><em><span>far, far away</span></em><span> becomes a mathematical understatement. No branching. No portals. No incursions.</span></p><p><strong><span>Eternal inflation</span></strong><span> gives us bubble universes: separate regions of spacetime that may operate with different physical settings. The bubbles might even collide. But they aren&#8217;t alternate histories of our universe, and crossing between them would be less like stepping through a glowing doorway and more like attempting to escape spacetime itself.</span></p><p><strong><span>Many Worlds</span></strong><span> gives us branching quantum histories. Every possible outcome remains part of the universal wavefunction (within a bubble). That sounds extremely </span><em><span>Loki</span></em><span> right up until we remember that decoherence makes macroscopic branches effectively inaccessible to one another. You get all the Lokis. You do not get the TemPad.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kQl-!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F858c075d-72e4-4ba2-bdf6-21165a6a2342_1440x1080.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kQl-!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F858c075d-72e4-4ba2-bdf6-21165a6a2342_1440x1080.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kQl-!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F858c075d-72e4-4ba2-bdf6-21165a6a2342_1440x1080.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kQl-!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F858c075d-72e4-4ba2-bdf6-21165a6a2342_1440x1080.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kQl-!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F858c075d-72e4-4ba2-bdf6-21165a6a2342_1440x1080.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kQl-!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F858c075d-72e4-4ba2-bdf6-21165a6a2342_1440x1080.jpeg" width="1440" height="1080" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/858c075d-72e4-4ba2-bdf6-21165a6a2342_1440x1080.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1080,&quot;width&quot;:1440,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:110624,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Deadpool whispers beside Chris Evans as Johnny Storm, wrapped in a blue cloak in Deadpool &amp; Wolverine.&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/i/208883394?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F858c075d-72e4-4ba2-bdf6-21165a6a2342_1440x1080.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Deadpool whispers beside Chris Evans as Johnny Storm, wrapped in a blue cloak in Deadpool &amp; Wolverine." title="Deadpool whispers beside Chris Evans as Johnny Storm, wrapped in a blue cloak in Deadpool &amp; Wolverine." srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kQl-!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F858c075d-72e4-4ba2-bdf6-21165a6a2342_1440x1080.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kQl-!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F858c075d-72e4-4ba2-bdf6-21165a6a2342_1440x1080.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kQl-!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F858c075d-72e4-4ba2-bdf6-21165a6a2342_1440x1080.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kQl-!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F858c075d-72e4-4ba2-bdf6-21165a6a2342_1440x1080.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Many Worlds may give you every possible Chris Evans. It does not give Deadpool a TemPad&#8212;or guarantee that the one wearing red, white and blue is Captain America. (Image: Disney/Fox/Marvel)</em></figcaption></figure></div><p><strong><span>Braneworld cosmology</span></strong><span> gives us entire universes separated by a higher dimension. Those branes might collide, producing something vaguely reminiscent of an incursion. But they would collide everywhere, not just above Manhattan, and America Chavez punching a star-shaped hole between them is not included in the model.</span></p><p><span>So Marvel went shopping.</span></p><p><span>It took alternate histories from Many Worlds, independent universes from eternal inflation, inter-universal collisions from brane cosmology and portals from absolutely nowhere in known physics. Then it connected it all with glowing orange circles.</span></p><p><span>This produces a multiverse that works </span><strong><span>beautifully </span></strong><span>as a storytelling machine and terribly as a physical model. </span></p><p><span>A Marvel &#8220;universe&#8221; can be a quantum branch, a separate spacetime, a neighboring dimension, or an alternate Earth depending on what the scene requires. The distinctions disappear because the characters can travel among them using the same general set of magic, technology, and unresolved trauma.</span></p><p><span>That becomes especially important heading into </span><em><span>Avengers: Doomsday</span></em><span>. If its three universes are quantum branches, they shouldn&#8217;t be able to collide. If they are bubble universes, their versions of Earth shouldn&#8217;t share corresponding locations. If they are branes, their collision should involve entire spacetimes rather than three groups of superheroes converging on the same battlefield.</span></p><p><span>Marvel&#8217;s multiverse is therefore not one theory.</span></p><p><span>It is a handful of incompatible theories standing on one another&#8217;s shoulders, wearing a cloak and hoping nobody asks to see its equations.</span></p><p><span>Which, in fairness, has also worked surprisingly well for Doctor Doom.</span></p><h2><strong><span>How Do You Test Somewhere You Can Never Go?</span></strong></h2><p><span>We now have several possible multiverses and no way to visit any of them.</span></p><p><span>This is inconvenient.</span></p><p><span>Science does not require us to see something directly. Nobody has visited the core of the Sun, watched the Big Bang, or shaken hands with a quark. We accept their existence because theories predict measurable effects here.</span></p><p><span>A scientific multiverse needs to leave fingerprints on our universe.</span></p><p><span>Bubble universes offer one possibility. If another bubble collided with ours early in cosmic history, the impact might have left a circular distortion in the cosmic microwave background&#8212;the afterglow of the Big Bang.</span></p><p><span>Scientists have searched.</span></p><p><span>They have found unusual patches, including the famous CMB Cold Spot, but nothing that convincingly says, </span><em><span>Here is where another universe hit us.</span></em></p><p><span>Braneworld models might leave different evidence: gravity behaving unexpectedly at very small scales, energy apparently disappearing into extra dimensions or particles produced by high-energy collisions. Again, no confirmed signal.</span></p><p><span>Many Worlds is harder. It uses the same quantum equations and generally predicts the same experimental results as other interpretations of quantum mechanics. The disagreement is largely over what those equations mean.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!U0vM!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8db96ab7-53c1-413f-a950-13a8e8ee4664_1920x793.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!U0vM!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8db96ab7-53c1-413f-a950-13a8e8ee4664_1920x793.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!U0vM!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8db96ab7-53c1-413f-a950-13a8e8ee4664_1920x793.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!U0vM!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8db96ab7-53c1-413f-a950-13a8e8ee4664_1920x793.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!U0vM!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8db96ab7-53c1-413f-a950-13a8e8ee4664_1920x793.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!U0vM!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8db96ab7-53c1-413f-a950-13a8e8ee4664_1920x793.jpeg" width="1456" height="601" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/8db96ab7-53c1-413f-a950-13a8e8ee4664_1920x793.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:601,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:942820,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/i/208883394?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8db96ab7-53c1-413f-a950-13a8e8ee4664_1920x793.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!U0vM!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8db96ab7-53c1-413f-a950-13a8e8ee4664_1920x793.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!U0vM!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8db96ab7-53c1-413f-a950-13a8e8ee4664_1920x793.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!U0vM!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8db96ab7-53c1-413f-a950-13a8e8ee4664_1920x793.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!U0vM!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8db96ab7-53c1-413f-a950-13a8e8ee4664_1920x793.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Marvel&#8217;s universes meet in Avengers: Doomsday with a handshake instead of an incursion. Physics remains suspicious. (Image: Disney/Marvel)</em></figcaption></figure></div><p><span>When the double-slit experiment produces interference, Copenhagen-style interpretations say the wavefunction contains several possibilities before measurement. Many Worlds says those possibilities remain within the universal quantum state.</span></p><p><span>Same dots on the screen. Vastly different account of reality.</span></p><p><span>Good luck building a science-fair display board for that.</span></p><p><a href="https://arxiv.org/abs/1707.07702"><span>Stephen Hawking and physicist Thomas Hertog</span></a><span> attempted to make eternal inflation more scientifically manageable in Hawking&#8217;s final cosmology paper. Using a speculative holographic model, they argued that inflation might produce a finite, relatively smooth collection of universes rather than an infinite fractal mess.</span></p><p><span>The headlines announced that Hawking&#8217;s last paper had found a way to detect parallel universes.</span></p><p><span>It had not.</span></p><p><span>Hawking and Hertog developed a model, based in part on simplified examples, that might eventually yield more specific predictions about patterns generated during inflation. Those patterns could potentially be tested through the cosmic microwave background or primordial gravitational waves.</span></p><p><span>That would test the theory producing the multiverse. It would not amount to receiving a transmission from Earth-828.</span></p><p><span>And this is where the scientific debate becomes uncomfortable.</span></p><p><span>If a multiverse model explains measurable features of our universe and makes predictions that competing models do not, then its unseen universes may be legitimate scientific inferences. But if every possible observation can be explained by saying, &#8220;That&#8217;s simply the kind of universe we happen to inhabit,&#8221; the multiverse stops predicting reality and starts accommodating it.</span></p><p><span>Marvel has an easier standard.</span></p><p><span>It can prove another universe exists by dropping Beast into the post-credits scene.</span></p><p><span>Physicists have to do it without Kelsey Grammer.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9Q5E!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa781fb1f-42af-4a43-a3a4-70761c5c70de_800x450.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9Q5E!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa781fb1f-42af-4a43-a3a4-70761c5c70de_800x450.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9Q5E!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa781fb1f-42af-4a43-a3a4-70761c5c70de_800x450.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9Q5E!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa781fb1f-42af-4a43-a3a4-70761c5c70de_800x450.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9Q5E!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa781fb1f-42af-4a43-a3a4-70761c5c70de_800x450.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9Q5E!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa781fb1f-42af-4a43-a3a4-70761c5c70de_800x450.png" width="800" height="450" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/a781fb1f-42af-4a43-a3a4-70761c5c70de_800x450.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:450,&quot;width&quot;:800,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:151589,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Kelsey Grammer as Beast, wearing a white lab coat in the post-credits scene of The Marvels.&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/i/208883394?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa781fb1f-42af-4a43-a3a4-70761c5c70de_800x450.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Kelsey Grammer as Beast, wearing a white lab coat in the post-credits scene of The Marvels." title="Kelsey Grammer as Beast, wearing a white lab coat in the post-credits scene of The Marvels." srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9Q5E!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa781fb1f-42af-4a43-a3a4-70761c5c70de_800x450.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9Q5E!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa781fb1f-42af-4a43-a3a4-70761c5c70de_800x450.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9Q5E!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa781fb1f-42af-4a43-a3a4-70761c5c70de_800x450.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9Q5E!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa781fb1f-42af-4a43-a3a4-70761c5c70de_800x450.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Marvel proves the existence of another universe by putting Beast in the room - the end of The Marvels, remember? Physicists must somehow meet the same evidentiary standard without a blue, furry genius.</em> <em>(Image: Disney/Marvel)</em></figcaption></figure></div><h2><strong><span>Bad News About the Glowing Door</span></strong></h2><p><span>After </span><strong><span>all </span></strong><span>of that, physics is surprisingly generous.</span></p><p><span>It gives us regions of the cosmos that will forever be beyond our view. Under the right assumptions, some may contain other Earths and other versions of us.</span></p><p><span>It gives us bubble universes born from inflation, potentially running the laws of physics with different settings.</span></p><p><span>It gives us quantum histories in which every possible outcome can persist.</span></p><p><span>It even gives us universe-sized branes that could collide in dimensions we cannot see.</span></p><p><span>Physics gives Marvel almost everything it needs.</span></p><p><span>Except the door.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1g_4!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F924b09e1-bd5b-4322-94c5-03e603d4dbd6_1920x1080.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1g_4!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F924b09e1-bd5b-4322-94c5-03e603d4dbd6_1920x1080.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1g_4!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F924b09e1-bd5b-4322-94c5-03e603d4dbd6_1920x1080.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1g_4!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F924b09e1-bd5b-4322-94c5-03e603d4dbd6_1920x1080.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1g_4!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F924b09e1-bd5b-4322-94c5-03e603d4dbd6_1920x1080.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1g_4!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F924b09e1-bd5b-4322-94c5-03e603d4dbd6_1920x1080.jpeg" width="1456" height="819" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/924b09e1-bd5b-4322-94c5-03e603d4dbd6_1920x1080.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:819,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;When does Deadpool and Wolverine take place on the Marvel timeline? |  GamesRadar+&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="When does Deadpool and Wolverine take place on the Marvel timeline? |  GamesRadar+" title="When does Deadpool and Wolverine take place on the Marvel timeline? |  GamesRadar+" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1g_4!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F924b09e1-bd5b-4322-94c5-03e603d4dbd6_1920x1080.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1g_4!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F924b09e1-bd5b-4322-94c5-03e603d4dbd6_1920x1080.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1g_4!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F924b09e1-bd5b-4322-94c5-03e603d4dbd6_1920x1080.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1g_4!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F924b09e1-bd5b-4322-94c5-03e603d4dbd6_1920x1080.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Physics gives Marvel the multiverse. Magic supplies the glowing door&#8212;and Deadpool and Wolverine do not pause to ask whether the underlying theory supports it. (Image: Disney/Fox/Marvel)</em></figcaption></figure></div><p><span>There is no known way to cross the cosmic horizon, escape into another inflationary bubble, step sideways into an Everett branch, or jump from one brane to another. No sling ring. No TemPad. No star-shaped punch through reality.</span></p><p><span>No wardrobe door hidden at the back of the universe.</span></p><p><span>That does not mean these other universes are impossible. It means they occupy an uncomfortable region at the edge of science: some emerge naturally from current theories that explain what we </span><em><span>can</span></em><span> observe, but the universes themselves may remain permanently beyond our reach.</span></p><p><span>They could be real predictions.</span></p><p><span>They could be useful interpretations.</span></p><p><span>They could be mathematical possibilities that nature never actually used.</span></p><p><span>Or they could be signs that our theories have wandered beyond the territory where evidence can follow.</span></p><p><span>Thankfully, Marvel does not have to wait for the evidence. It can take distant cosmic regions, bubble universes, branching quantum histories and colliding branes, compress them into one glowing piece of machinery and hand the controls to Doctor Doom.</span></p><p><span>That&#8217;s not how a scientific multiverse works.</span></p><p><span>But it is how stories work.</span></p><p><em><span>Avengers: Doomsday</span></em><span> and </span><em><span>Secret Wars</span></em><span> will almost certainly make the multiverse visible. Universes will acquire borders. Collisions will happen in the sky. Heroes will stand in the ruins of one reality and look across at another.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ubUS!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbeb92e20-02af-4642-a2b8-9fc138006ecb_1024x576.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ubUS!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbeb92e20-02af-4642-a2b8-9fc138006ecb_1024x576.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ubUS!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbeb92e20-02af-4642-a2b8-9fc138006ecb_1024x576.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ubUS!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbeb92e20-02af-4642-a2b8-9fc138006ecb_1024x576.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ubUS!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbeb92e20-02af-4642-a2b8-9fc138006ecb_1024x576.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ubUS!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbeb92e20-02af-4642-a2b8-9fc138006ecb_1024x576.jpeg" width="1024" height="576" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/beb92e20-02af-4642-a2b8-9fc138006ecb_1024x576.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:576,&quot;width&quot;:1024,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;America Chavez opens a glowing, star-shaped portal as Doctor Strange and Christine Palmer watch in Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness.&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="America Chavez opens a glowing, star-shaped portal as Doctor Strange and Christine Palmer watch in Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness." title="America Chavez opens a glowing, star-shaped portal as Doctor Strange and Christine Palmer watch in Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness." srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ubUS!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbeb92e20-02af-4642-a2b8-9fc138006ecb_1024x576.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ubUS!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbeb92e20-02af-4642-a2b8-9fc138006ecb_1024x576.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ubUS!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbeb92e20-02af-4642-a2b8-9fc138006ecb_1024x576.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ubUS!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbeb92e20-02af-4642-a2b8-9fc138006ecb_1024x576.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>America Chavez treats the walls between universes as something she can punch through. Physics has no equivalent&#8212;and would very much like to inspect her methods. (Image: Disney/Marvel)</em></figcaption></figure></div><p><span>The real versions&#8212;if any of them exist&#8212;would be stranger and less accommodating. They may surround us without being reachable, multiply without splitting in any place we could point to, or exist beside us in a direction the human mind was never built to imagine.</span></p><p><span>Feel small yet?</span></p><p><span>The multiverse may not contain another Doctor Doom, another Avengers team, or another you.</span></p><p><span>But the fact that our best attempts to understand reality keep opening the possibility of more reality - more space, more outcomes, more dimensions, more universes&#8230;it&#8217;s astonishing enough.</span></p><p><span>Even without the glowing door.</span></p><p><em><strong><span>Author&#8217;s notes:</span></strong><span> Portions of this article were adapted and substantially updated from my chapter &#8220;Multiverse Theory&#8221; in</span></em><span> </span><a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/1982123125?lv=shuf&amp;channelId=500&amp;plpRedirect=mhFallback"><span>The Science of Rick and Morty</span></a><span> </span><em><span>(Simon &amp; Schuster, 2019).</span></em></p><p><em>A note on the process: I used AI to help me brainstorm, locate research, test explanations, and revise portions of this article. The scientific judgment, argument, source-checking, and final editorial decisions are mine, as is responsibility for anything I got wrong.</em></p><p><em><strong>Curiosity is what brought me here.</strong></em></p><p><em><strong>Teaching is what I do with it.</strong></em></p><p><em><strong><span>If you&#8217;d like to read more about education, classrooms, students, and the craft of teaching, you&#8217;ll find those stories in </span><a href="https://bradyteach.substack.com/">Teacher, Teacher</a><span>.</span></strong></em></p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading The Science Of...! Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support my work.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[I Pushed the Button. The Math Says I’ll Be Fine. But...]]></title><description><![CDATA[What Richard Matheson, probability, and actuarial science reveal about one of the greatest moral dilemmas ever written.]]></description><link>https://www.thescienceof.org/p/the-math-of-the-button</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.thescienceof.org/p/the-math-of-the-button</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt Brady]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2026 17:03:08 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/eda0df6d-6965-4fe4-93b4-b1fdf35b0c67_1717x916.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span>Some ideas haunt you for a long time.</span></p><p><span>This is going to age me a little, but I remember watching &#8220;Button, Button&#8221; as a segment of the revived </span><em><span>Twilight Zone</span></em><span> series back in the day&#8212;that day being 1986. The segment was adapted from a 1970, 2000-ish word short story by Richard Matheson, first published in </span><em><span>Playboy</span></em><span>, and later adapted again (much more loosely) into the 2009 movie </span><em><span>The Box</span></em><span>.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kgpY!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0fd4eeb2-cfd7-4d57-8417-87de60adfe9e_259x400.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kgpY!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0fd4eeb2-cfd7-4d57-8417-87de60adfe9e_259x400.jpeg 424w, 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The box itself is unremarkable except for a red button beneath a transparent dome. Push the button, and the stranger will return with $200,000. Oh, and somewhere in the world, someone you don&#8217;t know will die.</span></p><p><span>Simple.</span></p><p><span>Okay, before we go any further, I need to borrow a warning from John Mulaney.  That is, this article won&#8217;t work in the &#8220;</span><em><span>The Science Of&#8230;</span></em><span>&#8220; way&#8230;</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9pFf!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7c348663-e003-42df-bdc4-715f1c4fd54a_1280x738.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9pFf!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7c348663-e003-42df-bdc4-715f1c4fd54a_1280x738.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9pFf!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7c348663-e003-42df-bdc4-715f1c4fd54a_1280x738.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9pFf!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7c348663-e003-42df-bdc4-715f1c4fd54a_1280x738.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9pFf!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7c348663-e003-42df-bdc4-715f1c4fd54a_1280x738.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9pFf!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7c348663-e003-42df-bdc4-715f1c4fd54a_1280x738.png" width="1280" height="738" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/7c348663-e003-42df-bdc4-715f1c4fd54a_1280x738.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:738,&quot;width&quot;:1280,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9pFf!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7c348663-e003-42df-bdc4-715f1c4fd54a_1280x738.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9pFf!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7c348663-e003-42df-bdc4-715f1c4fd54a_1280x738.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9pFf!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7c348663-e003-42df-bdc4-715f1c4fd54a_1280x738.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9pFf!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7c348663-e003-42df-bdc4-715f1c4fd54a_1280x738.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><span>Actually, this article will work in the usual </span><em><span>The Science Of&#8230;</span></em><span> way. The problem is that this time, the thing I&#8217;ll be treating as a discussion variable is death.</span></p><p><span>We&#8217;re about to walk across some ethically weird ground. I&#8217;m going to be completely objective about it and just examine the occurrence of death as a problem to solve.</span></p><p><span>Yeah, that doesn&#8217;t sound right either.</span></p><p><span>Look, for the next few sections, death is going to become a number. Nobody is being targeted, punished, or judged as more disposable than anyone else. Consider this a short ride aboard the Intrusive Thought Express. I&#8217;m your conductor and tour guide.</span></p><p><em><span>Oh, and there will be math.</span></em></p><p><span>(That wasn&#8217;t supposed to be more upsetting than the death stuff.)</span></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.thescienceof.org/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><h2><strong><span>Two Buttons, Two Endings</span></strong></h2><p><span>&#8220;Button, Button&#8221; was first published in the June 1970 issue of </span><em><span>Playboy</span></em><span> and has since appeared in collections of Matheson&#8217;s stories.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>(Image, CBS/Viacom)</em></figcaption></figure></div><p><span>The broad strokes of the two versions are the same. In both versions, the married couple is Arthur and Norma Lewis, and a mysterious package containing the button unit is delivered to their apartment. A note says that a Mr. Steward will visit that evening to explain the device.</span></p><p><span>He does. Steward explains the terms: $50,000 in the story and $200,000 in the episode, and leaves the couple to decide. Push it: someone you don&#8217;t know dies, and they get the money. Arthur and Norma argue over the offer. In the story, Arthur returns the device to Steward, only for Norma to ask for it back. In the episode, Arthur throws it into the trash, and Norma retrieves it. Eventually, she pushes the button.</span></p><p><span>This is where the two versions split. In Matheson&#8217;s original story, Arthur is pushed in front of a subway train on his way home from work. His life insurance payout is exactly $50,000.</span></p><p><span>As the story goes, the phone rings. It&#8217;s Mr. Steward.</span></p><blockquote><p><em><span>It wasn&#8217;t her voice shrieking so; it couldn&#8217;t be. &#8220;You said I wouldn&#8217;t know the one that died!&#8221;</span></em></p><p><em><span>&#8220;My dear lady,&#8221; Mr. Steward said, &#8220;do you really think you knew your husband?&#8221;</span></em></p></blockquote><p><span>Oof. Gut punch.</span></p><p><em><span>The New Twilight Zone</span></em><span> version ends differently. After Norma pushes the button and Steward delivers the money, he takes the device away and says it will be reprogrammed and offered to someone else. Oh, and Arthur&#8217;s fine, aside from a quick flash in his eye that maybe hints he really didn&#8217;t know his wife after all.</span></p><p><span>The &#8220;someone&#8221; who gets the box next, and Steward directs this to Norma, will be someone whom she does not know. The warning hangs there as the camera closes in on Norma&#8217;s horrified face.</span></p><p><span>Yeah. That lands differently, for so many reasons. My grossest one is that the organization Mr. Steward works for is (given the odds&#8230;coming up) basically paying people to kill strangers and get away with it. </span></p><p><span>Matheson, a veteran of the original </span><em><span>Twilight Zone</span></em><span> series&#8217; writing staff, wrote the teleplay for the segment. But as television production can go, Matheson&#8217;s script was changed, and the different ending tacked on. Matheson disliked the altered ending so much that he had the episode credited to his pseudonym, Logan Swanson.</span></p><p><span>As I mentioned, I saw the episode a long time ago, and its moral question stuck with me: Would I kill someone I didn&#8217;t know, somewhere in the world, for enough money to change my life? I saw it as a teenager, which is prime time for discovering that a question can crawl into your head and live there for the next forty years.</span></p><p><span>That&#8217;s all a credit to the strength of Matheson&#8217;s original story, which rightfully belongs beside other creepy-weird stories like &#8220;The Monkey&#8217;s Paw,&#8221; &#8220;The Lottery,&#8221; &#8220;The Veldt,&#8221; and &#8220;An Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge</span><em><span>&#8221;</span></em><span> that English teachers give unsuspecting students to read in the 10th grade.</span></p><p><span>And then smile inwardly as their discussions flare and continue for days.</span></p><p><span>But as the years went on, I realized something. The central question of &#8220;Button, Button&#8221; is ethical. There&#8217;s no getting around that. But the television ending accidentally creates another question:</span></p><p><span>What are the odds that a button push takes </span><em><strong><span>you </span></strong></em><span>out? They you&#8217;re the &#8220;someone&#8221; the person pushing the button does not know?</span></p><p><span>I mean, as I said up top, I&#8217;m treating this objectively and just as a mental experiment, not anything real or that could be real. This is all about probability. Set a few rules, draw a few boundaries, and the </span><em><span>Twilight Zone</span></em><span> ending starts looking suspiciously like a probability problem.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NeT9!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b50d683-9ff8-4065-a9a2-44d6404f04c9_829x576.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NeT9!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b50d683-9ff8-4065-a9a2-44d6404f04c9_829x576.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NeT9!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b50d683-9ff8-4065-a9a2-44d6404f04c9_829x576.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NeT9!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b50d683-9ff8-4065-a9a2-44d6404f04c9_829x576.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NeT9!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b50d683-9ff8-4065-a9a2-44d6404f04c9_829x576.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NeT9!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b50d683-9ff8-4065-a9a2-44d6404f04c9_829x576.jpeg" width="829" height="576" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/6b50d683-9ff8-4065-a9a2-44d6404f04c9_829x576.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:576,&quot;width&quot;:829,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:59711,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/i/207775524?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b50d683-9ff8-4065-a9a2-44d6404f04c9_829x576.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NeT9!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b50d683-9ff8-4065-a9a2-44d6404f04c9_829x576.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NeT9!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b50d683-9ff8-4065-a9a2-44d6404f04c9_829x576.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NeT9!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b50d683-9ff8-4065-a9a2-44d6404f04c9_829x576.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NeT9!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b50d683-9ff8-4065-a9a2-44d6404f04c9_829x576.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>And&#8230;yeah. <span>Matheson had a point. In his original story, &#8220;someone you don&#8217;t know&#8221; becomes a question about whether we ever fully know another person. In the television ending, it feels like a threat: someone </span><em><span>else </span></em><span>will push the button, and next time the stranger that dies could be </span><em><span>you</span></em><span>.</span></p><p><span>And once the threat becomes statistical, I can&#8217;t help asking how much of a threat it actually is.</span></p><p><span>Which makes for a weaker &#8220;scare,&#8221; to be honest (like when the monsters show up in </span><a href="https://www.thescienceof.org/p/why-backrooms-break-your-brain"><span>Backrooms</span></a><span>) - define the scary thing with information that can be processed, and it&#8217;s not as scary. This is a huge shout-out to </span><em><span>learning </span></em><span>about what you&#8217;re scared of, rather than just being scared of it.</span></p><blockquote><p><strong><span>Side note</span></strong><span>: All walking monsters have </span><em><span>knees</span></em><span>. Bugs me so much. Bipedal monsters need their knees to walk. As any athlete or person over 40 can tell you, knees are not, generally, the most well-protected or durable pieces of the skeletal system. Why are we wasting time with head shots? My god, just shoot Jason in the knees, then take your time to finish him off while he&#8217;s crawling. Problem solved. Knowledge, people. Knowledge. But I digress...</span></p></blockquote><p><span>So, assuming nobody has pulled the emergency brake on the Intrusive Thought Express, let&#8217;s do the math.</span></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/p/the-math-of-the-button?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.thescienceof.org/p/the-math-of-the-button?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p><h2><strong><span>Buttoning Up the Math</span></strong></h2><p><span>From here on, the version of the story I&#8217;m looking at is the &#8220;Logan Swanson&#8221; version that aired on </span><em><span>The New Twilight Zone</span></em><span>, not Matheson&#8217;s original short story. To turn that version&#8217;s final threat into a probability problem, we first need to answer one question:</span></p><p><span>How many people do you know?</span></p><p><span>For that, I&#8217;m going with </span><strong><span>Dunbar&#8217;s number</span></strong><span>.</span></p><p><span>Dunbar&#8217;s number is the idea that the human brain can keep only about 150 people fully populated in its social universe. Anthropologist Robin Dunbar arrived at that estimate by comparing primate brain size with group size and then applying the pattern to humans. Beyond that circle, people increasingly become acquaintances, strangers, crowds&#8212;and, eventually, numbers. People you &#8220;don&#8217;t know.&#8221;</span></p><p><span>I get it&#8212;you may have 10,000 followers on TikTok, but you </span><em><span>do not</span></em><span> have 10,000 stable relationships. Or, on the flip side, Dunbar did this work before social media let us connect with thousands of people without necessarily knowing many of them well, so 150, while </span><strong><span>theoretical</span></strong><span>, may be a little higher than the </span><strong><span>actual </span></strong><span>number of stable relationships people have in 2026. Maybe a lot higher. </span></p><p><span>I&#8217;m sticking with 150. Try another number if you like; as you&#8217;ll see, it barely matters.</span></p><p><span>Let&#8217;s assume that the box can appear anywhere in the world. We&#8217;ll also round the 2026 world population to 8.3 billion.</span></p><p><span>We&#8217;ll call that population </span><em><strong><span>N.</span></strong></em></p><p><span>Let&#8217;s say that Norma</span><sub><span>2026</span></sub><span> is itching to push the button. Norma knows 150 people, and her push kills one randomly selected person outside that circle. If &#8220;knows&#8221; = 150 people, then the number of Norma</span><sub><span>2026</span></sub><span>&#8217;s eligible victims is about</span></p><p style="text-align: center;"><span>N - 151 people.</span></p><p><span>Why subtract 151 rather than 150? I didn&#8217;t check with Mr. Steward, but I&#8217;m assuming Norma</span><sub><span>2026</span></sub><span> cannot kill herself by pressing her own button.</span></p><p><span>Assuming Norma</span><sub><span>2026</span></sub><span> does not know you, your chance of dying from her push is:</span></p><p style="text-align: center;"><span>1 / (N - 151)</span></p><p><span>With our rounded population, that is approximately:</span></p><p style="text-align: center;"><span>1 / 8.3 billion</span></p><p><span>In other words, if the button-pusher does not know you, your chance of dying from that one push is about 1 in 8.3 billion.  As a percentage, that&#8217;s</span></p><p style="text-align: center;"><strong><span>1/8,300,000,000 x 100% = 0.00000000012%</span></strong></p><p><span>There is one wrinkle to consider. If the next recipient is chosen randomly, that person </span><em><span>might </span></em><span>know you. If they do, you are not in their pool of possible victims. So your overall probability (P) of dying on a randomly assigned push is:</span></p><p style="text-align: center;"><span>P(pusher doesn&#8217;t know you) x P(you are selected | pusher doesn&#8217;t know you)</span></p><p style="text-align: center;"><span>(</span><em><strong><span>N</span></strong></em><span>-151/</span><strong><span>N</span></strong><span>) &#215; (1/</span><em><strong><span>N</span></strong></em><span> - 151) = 1/</span><em><strong><span>N</span></strong></em></p><p style="text-align: center;"><span>(the </span><em><strong><span>N</span></strong></em><span>-151 terms cancel)</span></p><p><span>So, if Mr. Steward is telling the truth and both the recipient and victim are selected randomly, the cleanest answer is:</span></p><p style="text-align: center;"><strong><span>1/</span></strong><em><strong><span>N</span></strong></em></p><p><span>Your BFF getting the box would make you perfectly safe from that push. But averaged across every possible recipient, it doesn&#8217;t change the overall odds. Dunbar&#8217;s number helps us define &#8220;someone you don&#8217;t know,&#8221; but ultimately it cancels out of the equation.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w_fQ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F86e519fb-96d0-43f0-9b5c-d9cf7a467aaf_733x578.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w_fQ!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F86e519fb-96d0-43f0-9b5c-d9cf7a467aaf_733x578.jpeg 424w, 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stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><span>Keep selecting randomly and pushing the button indefinitely, and the probability that it eventually kills you approaches 100%. The expected wait is 8.3 billion pushes. That does not mean the box is guaranteed to kill you by push 8.3 billion. At that point, your chance of having died is about 63%.</span></p><p><span>After about 5.75 billion pushes, the box is more likely than not to have killed you. After 8.3 billion, the probability is about 63%. But there is no deadline. Probability does not make appointments.</span></p><p><span>That assumes the population stays fixed at 8.3 billion, which it won&#8217;t.</span></p><p><span>The United Nations projects the population to peak around 10.3 billion in the mid-2080s before declining slightly by 2100. Okay, that&#8217;s not exactly a smidge, but close enough that our conclusion survives.</span></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.thescienceof.org/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><h2><strong><span>Give It to Me Straight: How Long Until the Box Gets Me?</span></strong></h2><p><span>Let&#8217;s turn pushes into </span><em><span>time</span></em><span>. If the box is pushed once per day. The expected waiting time would be:</span></p><p style="text-align: center;"><span>8.3 billion days &#247; 365 &#8776; 22.7 million years</span></p><p><span>The point at which the box has a 50% chance of having killed you comes earlier, at about 5.75 billion pushes:</span></p><p style="text-align: center;"><span>5.75 billion days &#247; 365 &#8776; 15.8 million years</span></p><p><span>Those are not contradictory answers. At 15.8 million years, your cumulative risk reaches 50%. The 22.7-million-year figure is the average wait across an enormous number of hypothetical runs.</span></p><p><span>Let&#8217;s put some hustle on Mr. Steward. What if the button is pushed once per hour?</span></p><p style="text-align: center;"><span>8.3 billion hours &#247; 24 &#247; 365 &#8776; 947,000 years</span></p><p><span>What if someone pushes it once per minute?</span></p><p style="text-align: center;"><span>8.3 billion minutes &#247; 60 &#247; 24 &#247; 365 &#8776; 15,800 years</span></p><p><span>So, if the box moves at anything resembling a human pace, you take the money and spend the rest of your life facing a real (but extremely small) risk.</span></p><p><span>And Dunbar&#8217;s number still barely matters. Excluding 150 people from a pool of 8.3 billion is almost nothing&#8212;and when the recipient is also chosen randomly, the Dunbar term cancels out altogether. The horror isn&#8217;t that the odds are high.  The horror is that the box turns everyone outside your circle into statistical fog.</span></p><p><span>Matheson&#8217;s original trap is moral. The television version makes it look actuarial.</span></p><h3><strong><span>What Are My Odds During a Normal Lifetime?</span></strong></h3><p><span>The huge numbers above are </span><strong><span>average waiting times</span></strong><span>, not how long </span><strong><span>you</span></strong><span> will live.</span></p><p><span>So let&#8217;s make it personal. Suppose you have 50 years left, and the box keeps moving.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Wloe!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3fe92843-f9a0-4928-bdb5-d519ef64b2f9_1536x1024.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Wloe!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3fe92843-f9a0-4928-bdb5-d519ef64b2f9_1536x1024.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Wloe!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3fe92843-f9a0-4928-bdb5-d519ef64b2f9_1536x1024.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Wloe!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3fe92843-f9a0-4928-bdb5-d519ef64b2f9_1536x1024.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Wloe!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3fe92843-f9a0-4928-bdb5-d519ef64b2f9_1536x1024.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Wloe!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3fe92843-f9a0-4928-bdb5-d519ef64b2f9_1536x1024.png" width="1456" height="971" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/3fe92843-f9a0-4928-bdb5-d519ef64b2f9_1536x1024.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:971,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:1770244,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/i/207775524?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3fe92843-f9a0-4928-bdb5-d519ef64b2f9_1536x1024.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Wloe!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3fe92843-f9a0-4928-bdb5-d519ef64b2f9_1536x1024.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Wloe!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3fe92843-f9a0-4928-bdb5-d519ef64b2f9_1536x1024.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Wloe!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3fe92843-f9a0-4928-bdb5-d519ef64b2f9_1536x1024.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Wloe!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3fe92843-f9a0-4928-bdb5-d519ef64b2f9_1536x1024.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><span>Frequency matters. </span></p><p><span>One in 8.3 billion? That&#8217;s impossible. Sure...but what if you repeat the experiment 26 million times?</span></p><p><span>Fortunately for us, Mr. Steward probably can&#8217;t explain, deliver, collect, and redistribute the box </span><strong><span>1,440 times every day</span></strong><span> for fifty straight years.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Uj0H!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F46aea58f-f737-41ce-93da-71d82212f78c_833x677.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Uj0H!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F46aea58f-f737-41ce-93da-71d82212f78c_833x677.jpeg 424w, 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stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><em><strong>Or can he?</strong></em> </p><h2><span>Yeah, But Compared To&#8230;?</span></h2><p><span>The numbers are interesting, and I think the last of the ghosts in my head have finally been satisfied.</span></p><p><span>But, after all of this, it settled in on me that the numbers aren&#8217;t really the point.</span></p><p><span>Assuming the box changes hands once per day, your chance of dying from it over the next 50 years is roughly 1 in 455,000.</span></p><p><span>That&#8217;s tiny. You take bigger risks before lunch. Seriously.</span></p><p><span>Your lifetime odds of dying in a motor vehicle crash are around 1 in 100. Your odds of dying in a fall are about 1 in 250. Even being struck by lightning at some point in your life is more likely than being killed by the box (1 in 15,000).</span></p><p><span>Putting real numbers on the television ending does something unexpected: it almost completely defangs the curse. If you push the button, and the box moves on, statistics say you should probably spend zero hours and zero minutes worrying about dying from &#8220;someone you don&#8217;t know&#8221; pushing the button.</span></p><p><span>Mr. Steward&#8217;s final warning isn&#8217;t nearly as terrifying once you see the odds. Compared with the risks we live with every day, the box barely registers. Which leaves us with a very uncomfortable answer:</span></p><p style="text-align: center;"><strong><span>Statistically, you should push the button.</span></strong></p><p><span>If your only goal is maximizing your own outcome, it&#8217;s an incredible deal. You get the money, and the odds that you&#8217;ll ever pay the price yourself are vanishingly small.</span></p><p><span>So why does it still feel wrong?</span></p><p><span>Because the button changes something more important than the odds, it changes </span><em><span>who </span></em><span>makes the choice, and who lives with the consequences.</span></p><p><span>Most of the risks we take in life primarily expose us. We drive. We board airplanes. We take medications with known side effects. We travel over bridges knowing that no bridge design is perfectly risk-free. Doctors recommend surgeries whose benefits must be weighed against possible harm. Modern life depends on countless decisions that carry small statistical risks because a world with zero risk does not exist.</span></p><p><span>Sometimes we accept those risks for ourselves. Sometimes our choices broadcast a little risk outward&#8212;to neighbors, workers, passengers, customers, or strangers on the other side of the world.</span></p><p><span>Most of the time, we experience the benefits while the risks are spread thinly across thousands or millions of strangers. Those risks are real, but they are distant. Usually invisible. We need electricity for modern life. No way of producing it comes with clean hands and zero risk.  The same is true of mining the materials used in our phones, computers, batteries, and other devices, </span>as well as countless other industries that enable<span> us to live a modern lifestyle in a wealthy country. </span></p><p><span>The button refuses to let the stranger stay invisible. It doesn&#8217;t merely tell you that harm is possible. It tells you that someone will die, and that your decision caused it.  That&#8217;s why the ending lingers.</span></p><p><span>The math says you will almost certainly never pay the price yourself. The story asks whether you can live with knowing someone else did. </span></p><p><span>Statistics are very good at telling us how often something happens.</span></p><p><span>They are completely silent about whether it should.</span></p><p><em><strong>Curiosity is what brought me here.</strong></em></p><p><em><strong>Teaching is what I do with it.</strong></em></p><p><em><strong><span>If you&#8217;d like to read more about education, classrooms, students, and the craft of teaching, you&#8217;ll find those stories in </span><a href="https://bradyteach.substack.com/">Teacher, Teacher</a><span>.</span></strong></em></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[There Are No* Blue Humans. There Are a Lot of Blue X-Men.]]></title><description><![CDATA[Beast has blue fur. Nightcrawler has blue skin. Humans make no blue pigment. So could X-Men &#8217;97&#8217;s blue mutants actually exist?]]></description><link>https://www.thescienceof.org/p/there-are-no-blue-humans-there-are</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.thescienceof.org/p/there-are-no-blue-humans-there-are</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt Brady]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2026 01:07:14 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/73479752-92bb-420f-bf17-92b6770123fe_686x386.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Artifact Recovered: original publication date: 7/26/19</em></p><p><em>This piece was originally published on a previous version of The Science Of and has been recovered from the digital strata. Its lightly edited version is represented here because it&#8217;s useful, weird, fascinating, updated, or some combination of the four. This piece was heavily updated to reflect the X-Men &#8216;97 connection, as well as updated science. </em></p><p><em><span>X-Men &#8217;97</span></em><span> on Disney+ is far better than any revival of a 30-year-old Saturday morning cartoon has a right to be. Yeah, I said it.</span></p><p><span>Season 1 was amazing, and Episode 5, &#8220;Remember It,&#8221; has made me tear up on multiple rewatchings. It just&#8230;</span><em><span>man</span></em><span>. It hits as hard as, or harder than, </span><em><span>anything</span></em><span> in the X-Men movies. Now </span>that Season 2 is out, it plays all the right nostalgic notes and features two of my favorite X-Men from&#8230; <span>well, forever: Nightcrawler and Beast.  And Apocalypse is the main villain (so far).</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!O89_!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa673742c-ac86-4ec3-a709-837734672e8c_2048x974.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!O89_!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa673742c-ac86-4ec3-a709-837734672e8c_2048x974.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!O89_!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa673742c-ac86-4ec3-a709-837734672e8c_2048x974.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!O89_!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa673742c-ac86-4ec3-a709-837734672e8c_2048x974.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!O89_!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa673742c-ac86-4ec3-a709-837734672e8c_2048x974.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!O89_!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa673742c-ac86-4ec3-a709-837734672e8c_2048x974.png" width="1456" height="692" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/a673742c-ac86-4ec3-a709-837734672e8c_2048x974.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:692,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:true,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!O89_!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa673742c-ac86-4ec3-a709-837734672e8c_2048x974.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!O89_!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa673742c-ac86-4ec3-a709-837734672e8c_2048x974.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!O89_!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa673742c-ac86-4ec3-a709-837734672e8c_2048x974.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!O89_!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa673742c-ac86-4ec3-a709-837734672e8c_2048x974.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Trigger warning for &#8220;Remember It.&#8221; I&#8230;got something in my eye&#8230; (Image: Disney)</em></figcaption></figure></div><p><em><span>Awesome</span></em><span>.</span></p><p><span>While they&#8217;re three of my favorite characters, they all have something else in common: they&#8217;re blue (or blue-ish gray in the case of Apocalypse).</span></p><p><span>Blue has been a go-to character color for the X-Men </span><a href="https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Blue_Skin"><span>and other comics</span></a><span>, to be fair, for years. A quick and wildly incomplete rundown of blue mutants gives us Beast, Nightcrawler, Archangel, Mystique, and En Sabah Nur (Apocalypse). And that&#8217;s not counting Yondu, Nebula, the blue-skinned Kree or the pure-blood Atlanteans&#8212;Marvel&#8217;s, not DC&#8217;s. Add in all of Marvel&#8217;s alternate Earths, and we&#8217;re going to need a bigger list.</span></p><p><span>There&#8217;s a lot of blue being splashed around the Marvel Universe, and its mutants have gotten more than their share. Now, I get it. Blue is visual shorthand for someone who is immediately and unmistakably different. You can&#8217;t hide Nightcrawler in a crowd.</span></p><p><span>But this is </span><em><span>The Science Of</span></em><span>&#8230;, not </span><em><span>The Sociology Of</span></em><span>&#8230; So let&#8217;s talk about blue mutants.</span></p><p><span>Because humans don&#8217;t come in blue.</span></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.thescienceof.org/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FlMz!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdf2e2d62-1597-4d49-9dca-7b6dc012d1f2_1280x720.jpeg" 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>In the comics, Nightcrawler is so dark blue, he&#8217;s almost black (Image: Disney)</em></figcaption></figure></div><p><span>A few years back at The Science Of&#8217;s &#8220;Superhero Science: Ask Us Anything!&#8221; panel at AwesomeCon, </span><a href="https://scholars.duke.edu/person/spana"><span>Duke University biology professor Dr. Eric Spana</span></a><span> rolled his eyes at the idea of a mutation producing a blue-skinned human.</span></p><p><span>Spana later confessed that declaring blue mutants </span><em><span>completely </span></em><span>impossible was a little too broad: blue humans might be possible. But a mutation producing a healthy, fully functional, superheroing blue human? That&#8217;s where things get&#8230;troublesome.</span></p><p><span>&#8220;We can sum up color into two broad categories: </span><strong><span>structural color</span></strong><span> and </span><strong><span>pigment color</span></strong><span>,&#8221; Spana says.</span></p><p><span>&#8220;Pigment color is what makes your jeans, pen ink, and stained-glass blue. Structural color is a physical effect of light absorption and reflection where only the blue light is reflected and seen by your eyes. There are only a few organisms on Earth that can make a blue pigment - a few butterfly species, for example.&#8221;</span></p><p><span>A few animals can produce genuine blue pigments, but among vertebrates, that ability is spectacularly rare. Almost every blue bird, fish, reptile or mammal you&#8217;ve seen is using microscopic structure to make blue&#8212;not blue pigment.</span></p><p><span>Vertebrate, here meaning animals with backbones. Genuine blue pigment is spectacularly rare among vertebrates. Humans aren&#8217;t one of the exceptions.</span></p><p><span>For humans, vertebrate and proud&#8230;well, we didn&#8217;t get the blue-pigment package.</span></p><p><span>We can&#8217;t make our own blue pigment. Don&#8217;t got the genes. Period.</span></p><p><span>People can&#8217;t be blue.</span></p><p><span>But there </span><em><span>are </span></em><span>blue people.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!meS-!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3d47807a-a125-4527-a15a-b633352e34af_2048x1152.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!meS-!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3d47807a-a125-4527-a15a-b633352e34af_2048x1152.png 424w, 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em> An illustration of the Fugate family of eastern Kentucky (Image by <a href="https://dnascience.plos.org/2016/09/22/finding-the-famous-painting-of-the-blue-people-of-kentucky/">Walt Spitzmiller</a></em>)</figcaption></figure></div><h1><strong><span>*No, Seriously, Blue People</span></strong></h1><p><span>There have been cases of people born blue. Not </span><a href="https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/man-turned-blue-silver-dies-article-1.1466905"><span>Paul Karason blue</span></a><span>. His skin turned blue-gray after years of consuming homemade colloidal silver, which caused a permanent condition called argyria. Different road to blue. Still, admittedly, very blue.</span></p><p><span>In an X-Men-ish connection, some people born blue owe the color to an inherited mutation. It does not, unfortunately, come with superpowers.</span></p><p><span>The most famous blue-skinned family in American history was the Fugate family of eastern Kentucky, whose story stretches from the early 1800s into the 20th century. Several family members had </span><a href="https://abcnews.go.com/Health/blue-skinned-people-genetic-connection-kentucky-fugates/story?id=15871929"><span>methemoglobinemia</span></a><span>, a condition that can be acquired through exposure to certain drugs or chemicals&#8212;or inherited, as it was in the Fugate family.</span></p><p><span>Thinking back to biology, an autosomal recessive condition generally appears when someone inherits two altered copies of the same gene&#8212;one from each biological parent. The Fugates lived in a relatively isolated region where the local gene pool was small, and marriages sometimes occurred between relatives, including distant cousins. Over generations, that made it more likely that two people carrying the same rare genetic variant would have children together.</span></p><p><span>If both parents carry one altered copy, each child has a 25% chance of inheriting two altered copies and having the condition. There&#8217;s also a 50% chance the child will be an unaffected carrier and a 25% chance the child will inherit neither altered copy.</span></p><p><span>Every pregnancy rolls the genetic dice again.</span></p><p><span>And no, the parents don&#8217;t have to be closely related for this to happen.</span></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/p/there-are-no-blue-humans-there-are?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.thescienceof.org/p/there-are-no-blue-humans-there-are?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p><p><span>Genes in a region can disperse through a population over generations to the point that two completely unrelated individuals could be carriers of the recessive form and not know it. A rare genetic variant can circulate through a population for generations, allowing two people who aren&#8217;t closely related to carry it without knowing.</span></p><p><span>Normally, less than about 1% of the hemoglobin in your blood is methemoglobin. In methemoglobin, the iron has been oxidized into a form that can&#8217;t bind oxygen. As that percentage rises into the 10&#8211;20% range, the skin can begin to look blue. Too much methemoglobin reduces the blood&#8217;s ability to carry and release oxygen. One visible result can be cyanosis&#8212;a blue or purple tint to the skin, lips and nail beds.</span></p><p><span>Cold can turn your lips and fingertips blue too, but it takes a different route. Blood vessels near the surface constrict to conserve heat, reducing circulation through those tissues and making deoxygenated blood more visible. That can produce cyanosis, but it isn&#8217;t the same blood chemistry found in methemoglobinemia.</span></p><p><span>Normally, an enzyme converts methemoglobin back into working hemoglobin. The enzyme was once commonly called diaphorase; today, it&#8217;s more precisely known as cytochrome b5 reductase. The inherited form associated with the Fugates reduced the activity of that enzyme, allowing methemoglobin to accumulate.</span></p><p><span>&#8220;In severe cases of this condition, altered oxygen binding to that form of hemoglobin causes lowered oxygen availability and cyanosis, which is a bluish skin trait,&#8221; Spana explains. &#8220;This seems unlikely for X-Men as the low oxygen causes substantial health problems, not superhero traits.&#8221;</span></p><p><span>As Spana hints, there is an important exception. In type I congenital methemoglobinemia, the enzyme deficiency is largely limited to red blood cells. A person may look dramatically blue while remaining otherwise relatively healthy. Some people with the type I form have lived long lives with few effects beyond the startling color of their skin. Family accounts described Luna Fugate as especially blue, yet she reportedly lived a long life and had 13 children.</span></p><p><span>Congenital methemoglobinemia remains rare. Among the Fugates&#8217; descendants, affected children became less common as families moved away and the population became less isolated. Carriers were simply less likely to have children with someone carrying the same rare variant.</span></p><p><span>So yes&#8212;blue people do exist, and some people with the inherited type I condition can be remarkably healthy. But congenital methemoglobinemia is rare. That alone makes it a poor explanation for Marvel&#8217;s blue population. Beast, Nightcrawler and Apocalypse aren&#8217;t merely surviving with reduced oxygen delivery; they&#8217;re performing acrobatics, teleporting through combat and conquering timelines.</span></p><p><span>These are not people whose blood is struggling to deliver oxygen.</span></p><p><span>But just to be clear: people with methemoglobinemia aren&#8217;t blue because their skin contains a blue pigment.</span></p><p><span>No blue pigment. Just altered blood chemistry showing through the skin.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oMlU!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6586d755-802b-4c3b-9d21-9a95b399f2b5_753x435.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oMlU!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6586d755-802b-4c3b-9d21-9a95b399f2b5_753x435.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oMlU!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6586d755-802b-4c3b-9d21-9a95b399f2b5_753x435.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oMlU!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6586d755-802b-4c3b-9d21-9a95b399f2b5_753x435.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oMlU!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6586d755-802b-4c3b-9d21-9a95b399f2b5_753x435.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oMlU!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6586d755-802b-4c3b-9d21-9a95b399f2b5_753x435.png" width="753" height="435" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/6586d755-802b-4c3b-9d21-9a95b399f2b5_753x435.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:435,&quot;width&quot;:753,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oMlU!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6586d755-802b-4c3b-9d21-9a95b399f2b5_753x435.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oMlU!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6586d755-802b-4c3b-9d21-9a95b399f2b5_753x435.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oMlU!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6586d755-802b-4c3b-9d21-9a95b399f2b5_753x435.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oMlU!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6586d755-802b-4c3b-9d21-9a95b399f2b5_753x435.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Horseshoe crab blood is truly, seriously, blue. (Image: Natural History Museum)</em></figcaption></figure></div><h1><strong><span>The True Blue Bloods of the Animal Kingdom</span></strong></h1><p><strong><span>&#8220;</span></strong><a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2014/02/the-blood-harvest/284078/"><span>Horseshoe crabs</span></a><span> offer one possible explanation for blue mutants&#8212;but it doesn&#8217;t work,&#8221; Spana says. &#8220;The blue blood is caused by a copper-containing protein called hemocyanin that they use to carry oxygen in their hemolymph, which is the crab version of blood. Hemocyanin is found in many mollusks and arthropods, but humans don&#8217;t use anything like it to transport oxygen. Humans don&#8217;t have the genes or physiological machinery for a hemocyanin-based circulatory system. The Kree, on the other hand? Maybe that&#8217;s exactly what&#8217;s going on with their blue skin and blue blood?&#8221;</span></p><p><em><strong><span>Side note</span></strong><span>: Horseshoe crabs </span><strong><span>aren&#8217;t </span></strong><span>crabs. Because biology enjoys making names as unhelpful as possible. And just to be 100% clear, oxygenated hemocyanin is blue. Actually blue. No cyanosis, no optical trick, and no disappointing lack of pigment. </span></em></p><p><em><span>Blue blood</span></em><span>.</span></p><p><span>That last bit is where Spana&#8217;s scientific mind has to draw a line between real-world genetics and comic-book genetics. Mutations can alter, delete, duplicate, and rearrange DNA. What they don&#8217;t generally do is install an entirely new biological system&#8212;fully assembled, prop</span><em><span>erly regulated and ready for superhero duty.</span></em></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.thescienceof.org/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hvUu!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F94dc3aad-babb-4e5e-9831-6ac0f68040d8_686x386.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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His own blueness? Um&#8230;. (Image: Disney)</em></figcaption></figure></div><p><span>If </span><em><span>X-Men &#8217;97</span></em><span> suddenly announced that Nightcrawler has hemocyanin instead of hemoglobin, X-Men-loving biologists everywhere would feel a small but measurable part of themselves die.  A spontaneous mutation couldn&#8217;t simply replace hemoglobin with hemocyanin. It would have to rebuild oxygen transport, copper regulation, blood chemistry, and probably several other systems we haven&#8217;t even thought of yet.</span></p><p><span>And then Marvel would have to do it again. And again. And again.</span></p><p><span>It&#8217;s the same problem that turns scientists into the bad guys at every superhero-science panel:</span></p><p><span>&#8220;How can that character have wings?&#8221;</span></p><p><span>&#8220;They can&#8217;t.&#8221;</span></p><p><span>Boooo, science.</span></p><p><span>No one likes to hear &#8220;They can&#8217;t,&#8221; but really&#8212;Warren Worthington III sprouted two enormous, fully feathered, functional wings from his back.</span></p><p><span>No one likes to hear, &#8220;They can&#8217;t,&#8221; but really - Warren Worthington III sprouting lovely, angelic feathered wings out of his back? Try tracking everything that would have to change: skeleton, muscles, nerves, circulation, skin, feather growth, balance, and the brain circuitry needed to control two entirely new limbs. That isn&#8217;t </span><em><span>one </span></em><span>mutation. That&#8217;s a full-body renovation.</span></p><p><span>Evolution can produce new structures by duplicating, modifying and repurposing existing ones&#8212;but it does that through accumulated changes across populations and generations. It does not hand one teenager a finished set of wings.</span></p><p><em><span>None of this is meant to rain on the X-parade. Not at all. The X-Men are cool. They were cool before I knew what a genome was, and they&#8217;ll remain cool regardless of what biology says. But if the X-Men get you interested in mutation and genetics, they&#8217;re the springboard&#8212;not the final answer. Follow that question into real genetics, and things get every bit as strange as the comics. Trust me, plenty of working biologists know exactly who the X-Men are&#8212;and some of them can identify an obscure mutant faster than they can identify a colleague. For some of them, asking why the X-Men couldn&#8217;t exist was the first step toward learning what actually could.</span></em></p><p><span>Oh, and Hank McCoy? He gets an asterisk. Beast was already a mutant, but his blue, furry form came after he injected himself with a serum of his own design and triggered another transformation. He can star in his own title, </span><em><span>GMO-Men</span></em><span>. And as we&#8217;ll see, Beast may be the one blue mutant biology can </span><em><span>almost </span></em><span>explain.</span></p><p><span>&#8220;But wait,&#8221; you say. &#8220;What about all the blue animals?&#8221;</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iuPS!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6c7ba98f-0abf-4c20-969d-1d3350cf2223_722x1050.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iuPS!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6c7ba98f-0abf-4c20-969d-1d3350cf2223_722x1050.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iuPS!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6c7ba98f-0abf-4c20-969d-1d3350cf2223_722x1050.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iuPS!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6c7ba98f-0abf-4c20-969d-1d3350cf2223_722x1050.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iuPS!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6c7ba98f-0abf-4c20-969d-1d3350cf2223_722x1050.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iuPS!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6c7ba98f-0abf-4c20-969d-1d3350cf2223_722x1050.png" width="384" height="558.4487534626039" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/6c7ba98f-0abf-4c20-969d-1d3350cf2223_722x1050.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1050,&quot;width&quot;:722,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:384,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iuPS!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6c7ba98f-0abf-4c20-969d-1d3350cf2223_722x1050.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iuPS!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6c7ba98f-0abf-4c20-969d-1d3350cf2223_722x1050.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iuPS!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6c7ba98f-0abf-4c20-969d-1d3350cf2223_722x1050.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iuPS!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6c7ba98f-0abf-4c20-969d-1d3350cf2223_722x1050.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p style="text-align: center;"><em><span>Mystique&#8230;just&#8230;wait. Blue skin, blue...scales on her skin, too? (Image: Disney)</span></em></p><h1><strong><span>What About the Actual, For Real Blue Animals, Then?</span></strong></h1><p><span>&#8220;What about</span><a href="https://www.birds-of-north-america.net/blue-birds.html"><span> that bird</span></a><span>?&#8221;</span></p><p><span>&#8220;That</span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandrill"><span> mandrill</span></a><span>&#8217;s face and</span><a href="https://www.popsci.com/science/article/2013-04/best-colored-monkey-butts-and-why-they-look-so-colorful/"><span> butt</span></a><span>?&#8221;</span></p><p><span>&#8220;That</span><a href="https://aquaticarts.com/pages/blue-velvet-shrimp-care-guide"><span> shrimp</span></a><span>?&#8221;</span></p><p><span>&#8220;That</span><a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Blue_insects"><span> bug</span></a><span>?&#8221;</span></p><p><span>&#8220;That</span><a href="http://johnhawks.net/weblog/topics/humor/random_scholar/vervet_scrotal_color_2007.html"><span> monkey&#8217;s scrotum</span></a><span>?&#8221;</span></p><p><span>&#8220;My</span><a href="https://www.aao.org/eye-health/tips-prevention/your-blue-eyes-arent-really-blue"><span> blue eyes</span></a><span>?&#8221;</span></p><p><span>If blue pigment is so rare, why are there so many blue animals?</span></p><p><span>Because most of them aren&#8217;t using blue pigment.</span></p><p><span>They&#8217;re using physics.</span></p><p><span>&#8220;In many blue animals, microscopic structures interact with white light so that blue wavelengths are reflected or scattered back toward our eyes,&#8221; Spana says. &#8220;The color comes from the physical arrangement of the material, not from a blue pigment. In blue morpho butterflies, nanoscale structures in the chitinous wing scales reflect an intense blue.&#8221;</span></p><p><span>Change the spacing of those structures, and you change the color they produce. Same material. Different architecture. Different light.</span></p><p><span>&#8220;Blue jays and peacocks also use nanoscale structures in their feathers, built from keratin, air and, in some cases, melanin, to control which wavelengths reach your eyes,&#8221; Spana continues. &#8220;And in some mammals&#8212;including mandrills&#8212;carefully organized collagen fibers in the skin produce blue structural color.&#8221;</span></p><p><span>Wait&#8230;</span><strong><span>collagen</span></strong><span>? </span><em><span>We</span></em><span> have collagen&#8230;</span></p><p><span>Nightcrawler is back in the game.</span></p><p><span>Your </span><a href="https://www.sciencealert.com/science-how-blue-eyes-get-their-colour"><span>blue eyes</span></a><span> pull off a similar trick. There&#8217;s no blue pigment in a blue iris. In a blue iris, microscopic structures in the </span><em><span>stroma</span></em><span> (the front portion of the iris) scatter shorter wavelengths of light back toward you more strongly than longer wavelengths. You see that scattered light as blue. The butterflies, feathers, and mandrills use different microscopic arrangements, but the larger trick is the same: structure controls light.</span></p><p><span>Blue eyes contain less melanin in the front layers of the iris than brown eyes. With less pigment available to absorb incoming light, shorter blue wavelengths are scattered back toward the viewer while more of the longer wavelengths pass deeper into the eye and are absorbed.</span></p><p><span>The eye contains no blue &#8220;dye.&#8221; It just sends more blue light back at you.</span></p><p><span>The sky, skim milk, and bluish exhaust all pull related versions of the same stunt. Different materials. Different-sized structures. Same basic result: more blue light reaches your eyes.</span></p><p><span>And because that blue is produced by reflected and scattered light, its intensity changes with the lighting. Someone with striking, almost glowing blue eyes won&#8217;t look equally blue under every set of lights.</span></p><p><span>Those almost-glowing blue eyes? Part biology, part lighting department.</span></p><p><span>For the X-Men, two of those mechanisms give us something to work with,&#8221; Spana says. &#8220;Humans don&#8217;t produce chitin, so the blue-morpho route is out.&#8221;</span></p><p><span>Sorry Mystique, no butterfly upgrade.</span></p><p><span>&#8220;Hair and feathers aren&#8217;t chemically identical, but they are both protein-built structures,&#8221; Spana says. &#8220;That at least gives Beast&#8217;s fur something biology can work with. Beast might have one set of changes producing dense fur and another organizing that fur at the microscopic level so that it reflects blue light.&#8221;</span></p><p><span>Two enormous biological asks instead of one impossible blue pigment. Progress!</span></p><p><span>Nightcrawler isn&#8217;t walking around in a full-body blue-jay coat. His problem appears to be skin.</span></p><p><span>&#8220;His mutation might be one like the ordered collagen fibers seen on the noses and backsides of mandrills and give him blue skin all over,&#8221; Spana says.</span></p><p><span>That&#8217;s a very large &#8220;if,&#8221; but it&#8217;s a real biological road to blue skin.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jjPb!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F595a3733-b06b-4a9b-af51-9795b0726f84_1280x720.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jjPb!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F595a3733-b06b-4a9b-af51-9795b0726f84_1280x720.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jjPb!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F595a3733-b06b-4a9b-af51-9795b0726f84_1280x720.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jjPb!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F595a3733-b06b-4a9b-af51-9795b0726f84_1280x720.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jjPb!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F595a3733-b06b-4a9b-af51-9795b0726f84_1280x720.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jjPb!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F595a3733-b06b-4a9b-af51-9795b0726f84_1280x720.png" width="1280" height="720" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/595a3733-b06b-4a9b-af51-9795b0726f84_1280x720.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:720,&quot;width&quot;:1280,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jjPb!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F595a3733-b06b-4a9b-af51-9795b0726f84_1280x720.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jjPb!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F595a3733-b06b-4a9b-af51-9795b0726f84_1280x720.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jjPb!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F595a3733-b06b-4a9b-af51-9795b0726f84_1280x720.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jjPb!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F595a3733-b06b-4a9b-af51-9795b0726f84_1280x720.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Movie Beast complicates things by having blue skin beneath his blue fur. Apparently, one impossible color mechanism wasn&#8217;t enough. (Image: Disney)</em></figcaption></figure></div><p><span>The mandrill comparison doesn&#8217;t make Nightcrawler easy to explain, but it keeps the door to blue mutants cracked open. Mandrills are primates, and humans already make the same basic structural material: collagen. But reorganizing that collagen across someone&#8217;s entire skin so that it consistently reflects blue light?</span></p><p><span>That&#8217;s a tough sell.</span></p><p><span>Could gene editing eventually get us closer? Maybe&#8212;but CRISPR isn&#8217;t a magic wand. It can target particular DNA sequences, but we would first need to know which changes create blue structural skin and then deliver those edits safely to the correct cells.</span></p><p><span>An easier sell? CRISPR - the technology that allows scientists (or largely, anyone) to insert genes at specific locations in DNA.</span></p><p><span>&#8220;Oh, that would be killer,&#8221; Spana says. &#8220;If the molecular change in human vs mandrill collagen fibers were easy, you could make genetic tattoos via specific application of CRISPR to skin regions! That would make the blue structural rather than pigment-based.&#8221;</span></p><p><span>To be clear, this is the part where we have sprinted past &#8220;current medical technology&#8221; and planted a flag in &#8220;extremely cool future possibility.&#8221; Scientists are working on gene editing in skin, but making a patch of human tissue grow a precise, light-reflecting collagen nanostructure is a whole different level of difficulty.</span></p><p><span>CRISPR can edit DNA. It cannot currently give you a Nightcrawler sleeve.</span></p><p><span>Your local tattoo artist would be a better bet. But again, that&#8217;s the insertion of pigment under your skin to make it look blue.</span></p><p><span>Marvel makes its mutants blue with ink and pixels. Biology would have to do it with structure.</span></p><p><span>No blue pigment required.</span></p><p><span>Beast? Keratin.</span></p><p><span>Nightcrawler: Collagen.</span></p><p><span>Apocalypse? Comics.</span></p><p><span>But still &#8212;  no blue pigment. Only structure.</span></p><p><em><strong><span>More:</span></strong></em></p><p><em><a href="https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2014/11/12/347736896/how-animals-hacked-the-rainbow-and-got-stumped-on-blue"><span>How Animals Hacked the Rainbow and Got Stumped on Blue</span></a></em></p><p><em><a href="https://www.huffpost.com/entry/how-nature-uses-physics-t_b_13167572?guccounter=1&amp;guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&amp;guce_referrer_sig=AQAAANR1EifURUAGT-QWDj3tlY8XsvvfgrsTgayixtoFZ5Hk5C0yxVn-IbDYG3FSoeZXqcDAYcQar6RK8bKhvor3WsWVPd2i1mSGcjn6tuv7qJgE5_Ftz5Zb7saUPo_5onpdTPpCxKtuanu_off7qLA3-DSyK5G58HY67lmS6li4H-4j"><span>How Nature Uses Physics to Make Blue Without Pigment</span></a></em></p><p><em><a href="https://www.scienceabc.com/nature/why-is-blue-difficult-to-find-in-nature.html"><span>Why is the Color Blue Difficult to Find in Nature?</span></a></em></p><p><em><a href="https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/why-are-some-feathers-blue-100492890/"><span>Why Are Some Feathers Blue?</span></a></em></p><p><em><strong>Curiosity is what brought me here.</strong></em></p><p><em><strong>Teaching is what I do with it.</strong></em></p><p><em><strong><span>If you&#8217;d like to read more about education, classrooms, students, and the craft of teaching, you&#8217;ll find those stories in </span><a href="https://bradyteach.substack.com/">Teacher, Teacher</a><span>.</span></strong></em></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[So Heat Wave Vaporized a River...]]></title><description><![CDATA[And that requires 2.6 petajoules of energy, 24 times the electrical power used by the entire world&#8212;and may accidentally create a thunderstorm. Let's talk physics!]]></description><link>https://www.thescienceof.org/p/heat-wave-vaporized-river-physics</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.thescienceof.org/p/heat-wave-vaporized-river-physics</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt Brady]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2026 14:31:26 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/c968ccb8-09ff-46b2-aef2-469539c52a76_757x332.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span>There will be spoilers for DC&#8217;s </span><strong><span>The Flash #34 </span></strong><span>by </span><a href="https://bsky.app/profile/ryannorth.ca"><span>Ryan North</span></a><span> and </span><a href="https://www.instagram.com/gavinguidry/?hl=en"><span>Gavin Guidry</span></a><span> ahead. Just sayin&#8217;.</span></p><p><span>Okay&#8212;so in </span><strong><span>The Flash #34</span></strong><span>&#8230;well, a bunch of stuff goes on. The &#8220;battle&#8221; between Flash and Gorilla Grodd and his army is set up as a flowchart through time, and it&#8217;s one of the more innovative uses of the medium I&#8217;ve seen in a while. </span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2HsJ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc0ae47cc-bdd7-4b13-b7e0-bb8b8449013a_882x536.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2HsJ!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc0ae47cc-bdd7-4b13-b7e0-bb8b8449013a_882x536.png 424w, 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(Image: DC Comics)</em></figcaption></figure></div><p><span>But&#8230;</span></p><p><span>Toward the end of the issue, Flash discovers that Central City is covered in what he initially thinks is fog. Then he realizes it&#8217;s steam.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3YWD!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcb7e8acb-8169-4d3f-8eb8-d0615cc466e7_626x587.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3YWD!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcb7e8acb-8169-4d3f-8eb8-d0615cc466e7_626x587.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3YWD!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcb7e8acb-8169-4d3f-8eb8-d0615cc466e7_626x587.png 848w, 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It&#8217;s not fog. It&#8217;s the river. (Image, DC Comics)</em></figcaption></figure></div><p><span>Said steam was generated when one of the Flash&#8217;s Rogues, Heat Wave, used six giant heat generators to vaporize a chunk of the river. Apparently, he does this to expose a shipwreck with treasure on it? </span>I&#8217;m looking forward to reading issue #35, which shows<span> the creative team is doing its job.</span></p><p><span>Depending on which map of the DC Universe you&#8217;re looking at, Central City is in Missouri, across the Missouri River from Keystone City. Look, there are reasons and explanations for all of this, including why in the world there are two fairly large cities right next to each other in the DC Universe, and I could tell you </span><strong><span>all</span></strong><span> about it. Seriously. I could bore you (and me) to tears.</span></p><p><span>But I&#8217;d rather not.</span></p><p><span>What I want to talk about is what Heat Wave is doing, because it resembles a problem I give my students during our thermochemistry unit in chemistry&#8212;and again when physics students hit thermodynamics and heat transfer.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zfZh!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F40832d0c-a979-42cf-ab9c-ccf73602fa74_685x407.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zfZh!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F40832d0c-a979-42cf-ab9c-ccf73602fa74_685x407.png 424w, 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(Image, DC Comics)</em></figcaption></figure></div><p><span>In short&#8230;</span></p><p><em><span>That&#8217;s a really cool scene there with Heath Wave vaporizing the river you got there.</span></em></p><p><em><span>It would be a shame if someone did some real-world science to it&#8230;</span></em></p><p><span>Okay, okay&#8212;</span><strong><span>DISCLAIMER</span></strong><span>&#8212;we&#8217;re not doing this to yuck anyone&#8217;s yum or rain on any parades. The DC Universe is fictional. Our rules don&#8217;t apply, or there are workarounds. (See: </span><a href="https://www.thescienceof.org/p/artemis-reentry-plasma-flash-speed-force?r=skte"><span>the Speed Force</span></a><span>.)  My curiosity kicked in when I saw the scene and started wondering what it would look like in our world, with our physics.</span></p><p><span>And my electric bill. </span></p><p><span>You wanna do some physics?</span></p><p><span>Come on. I&#8217;ll make it easy.<br><br></span><em><span>(Oh, and in case you&#8217;re curious, I&#8217;d give about an hour of class time for this in a course&#8230;)</span></em></p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">You know you want to continue, but&#8230; the temptation to subscribe and get these in your inbox is strong. Do it. </p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><h1><span>Step One: How Much Water is That?</span></h1><p><span>This is the only step where we need to make some approximations. We need to determine the volume of water Heat Wave has already vaporized, based on what we see in the panel. Let&#8217;s use the bridge as our ruler and call the river about 150 meters wide. The affected stretch looks roughly 800 meters long (about half a mile), and based on the buildings, bridge, cars, streets, and everything else we can use for scale, let&#8217;s call the river about 8 meters deep.</span></p><p><span>All numbers are open to interpretation. If you don&#8217;t agree with them, put your own numbers in and join us for Step Two.</span></p><p><span>As pictured, Heat Wave has vaporized a shoebox-shaped volume of water. The formula for volume has been the same since you were in school:</span></p><p><strong><span>Volume = width &#215; length &#215; height</span></strong></p><p><span>Volume = (150 m)(800 m)(8 m)</span></p><p><span>Volume = 960,000 m</span><sup><span>3 </span></sup><span>of water.</span></p><p><span>To make the calculations easier, let&#8217;s nudge that up to 1 million cubic meters of water.  What&#8217;s the mass of that much water? Well, the mass of 1 m</span><sup><span>3</span></sup><span> of water is 1,000 kg, so:</span></p><p><span>1 x 10</span><sup><span>6</span></sup><span> m</span><sup><span>3</span></sup><span> &#215; 1000 kg/m</span><sup><span>3</span></sup><span> = 1 &#215; 10</span><sup><span>9 </span></sup><span>kg</span></p><p><strong><span>That&#8217;s 1 billion kg of water.</span></strong></p><p><span>That&#8217;s a lot of water.</span></p><div class="captioned-button-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/p/heat-wave-vaporized-river-physics?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="CaptionedButtonToDOM"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Got nerd friends? Know someone who obsesses about vaporizing large volumes of water? </p></div><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/p/heat-wave-vaporized-river-physics?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.thescienceof.org/p/heat-wave-vaporized-river-physics?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p></div><h1><span>Step Two: Vaporize!</span></h1><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dJ_k!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1279f8d4-4b1b-4157-b5ff-243833efdeee_757x332.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source 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src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dJ_k!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1279f8d4-4b1b-4157-b5ff-243833efdeee_757x332.jpeg" width="757" height="332" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/1279f8d4-4b1b-4157-b5ff-243833efdeee_757x332.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:332,&quot;width&quot;:757,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:79091,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;The Flash stands before a towering wall of river water and steam, wondering about the enormous energy required.&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/i/204594920?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1279f8d4-4b1b-4157-b5ff-243833efdeee_757x332.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="The Flash stands before a towering wall of river water and steam, wondering about the enormous energy required." title="The Flash stands before a towering wall of river water and steam, wondering about the enormous energy required." srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dJ_k!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1279f8d4-4b1b-4157-b5ff-243833efdeee_757x332.jpeg 424w, 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Just you wait, Wally. Just you wait. In my defense, I did take this as an invitation. (Image, DC Comics)</em></figcaption></figure></div><p><span>Cool your jets for a second. We can&#8217;t vaporize water in one step. To turn water into water vapor, you have to go through two steps. First, the water temperature must be raised to its boiling point, 100 &#176;C at normal atmospheric pressure. Then it can be vaporized. Each step requires dumping energy into the water, hence Heat Wave&#8217;s six giant heat blasters on the shore.</span></p><p><span>Why do things work this way?</span></p><p><span>Heating transfers energy into the water, making its molecules move faster (and taking up more space). As the water&#8217;s temperature increases, its molecules move faster and faster until the water reaches 100 &#176;C. Once there, the water still needs more energy, this time to overcome the attractions between water molecules and escape as a gas.</span></p><p><span>Figuring out how much energy Heat Wave needs requires two calculations, so we need two formulas.</span></p><p><span>The first looks like this: </span><strong><span>Q = mc&#916;T</span></strong></p><p><span>That means the energy needed (Q) to raise the temperature of a certain mass of water equals the water&#8217;s mass (m), multiplied by its specific heat (4,186 J/kg&#183;&#176;C), multiplied by the change in temperature (&#916;T).</span></p><p><span>That specific heat means it takes 4,186 joules of energy to raise the temperature of one kilogram of water by 1 &#176;C. And &#916;T is just the final temperature minus the initial temperature.</span></p><p><span>Let&#8217;s assume that the water in the river is 20 </span><sup><span>o</span></sup><span>C (about 68 </span><sup><span>o</span></sup><span>F). We need to raise that water to its boiling point of 100 &#176;C, so &#916;T is 100 &#8722; 20 = 80 &#176;C. The rest of our math looks like this:</span></p><p><span>Q = (1 x 10</span><sup><span>9</span></sup><span> kg)(4186 J/kg</span><sup><span>o</span></sup><span>C)(80)</span></p><p><span>Q = 3.35 x 10</span><sup><span>14</span></sup><span> joules</span></p><p><span>As I remind my students, that&#8217;s just to heat the water to the boiling point. Now, we&#8217;ve got to vaporize it. New formula:</span></p><p><strong><span>Q = H</span><sub><span>v</span></sub><span>m</span></strong></p><p><em><span>(Note - H</span><sub><span>v</span></sub><span> is sometimes called the &#8220;latent heat of vaporization and abbreviated as L</span><sub><span>v</span></sub><span>)</span></em></p><p><span>This means the energy (Q) required to vaporize a given mass of water (m) equals the heat of vaporization of water (2.26 &#215; 10&#8310; J/kg) multiplied by the mass of the water.</span></p><p><strong><span>Why is the heat of vaporization number so much bigger than the specific heat of water?</span></strong></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sgkv!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3cdd8eff-4af1-45be-b97a-675330fcbe41_1536x1024.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div 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src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sgkv!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3cdd8eff-4af1-45be-b97a-675330fcbe41_1536x1024.png" width="1456" height="971" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/3cdd8eff-4af1-45be-b97a-675330fcbe41_1536x1024.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:971,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Whiteboard diagram comparing heating and vaporizing water: heating makes molecules move faster, while vaporizing requires much more energy to pull them 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><span>Think about what you need the water molecules to do. Before, you were adding energy to make them move faster. Now, you&#8217;re asking them to break away from their pals and fly off into the atmosphere, overcoming the attractions between them and pushing back the surrounding atmosphere.</span></p><p><span>That&#8217;s a much bigger ask. In Heat Wave&#8217;s case:</span></p><p><span>Q = (2.26 &#215; 10</span><sup><span>6</span></sup><span> J/kg)(1 &#215; 10</span><sup><span>9 </span></sup><span>kg)</span></p><p><span>Q = 2.26 &#215; 10</span><sup><span>15 </span></sup><span>joules</span></p><blockquote><p><strong><span>Side note</span></strong><span>: There&#8217;s no value for temperature in this equation because there&#8217;s no temperature change. While a substance is vaporizing, the energy being dumped into it is used to overcome the attractions between its particles and separate them from one another. Heat&#8217;s still going in, but the temperature isn&#8217;t changing. It&#8217;s one of the things my students struggle with, too.</span></p></blockquote><p><span>So how much energy does Heat Wave need in total to heat up and vaporize 1 billion kg of water? We add the two numbers together.</span></p><p><span>Q</span><sub><span>total</span></sub><span> = 3.35 &#215; 10</span><sup><span>14</span></sup><span> + 2.26 &#215; 10</span><sup><span>15 </span></sup><span>= 2.6 &#215; 10</span><sup><span>15</span></sup><span> Joules</span></p><p><strong><span>Or 2.6 petajoules.</span></strong></p><p><span>That&#8217;s a lot of energy, but I know. That number means absolutely nothing to you.</span></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.thescienceof.org/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><h1><span>Step Three: TNT!</span></h1><p><span>When talking about energy, joules aren&#8217;t that helpful. We don&#8217;t run into them often. We could convert everything to calories and get another interesting number, but it still wouldn&#8217;t mean much.  So let&#8217;s use something we&#8217;re all much better at understanding: explosions. Specifically, trinitrotoluene, better known as TNT.</span></p><p><span>1 kiloton (1,000 tons) of TNT releases the energy equivalent of 4.184 &#215; 10</span><sup><span>12 </span></sup><span>J when it explodes.</span></p><p><span>So, for our vaporized river&#8230;</span></p><p><span>(2.6 &#215; 10&#185;&#8309; J) &#247; (4.184 &#215; 10&#185;&#178; J/kiloton) = 620 kilotons of TNT</span></p><p><span>Just for comparison&#8230;</span></p><p><span>Hiroshima atomic bomb: about 15 kilotons of TNT</span></p><p><span>Nagasaki: 21 kilotons</span></p><p><strong><span>Essentially, to vaporize 1 billion kg of water, Heat Wave has to dump the energy equivalent of about 40 Hiroshima bombs into the river.</span></strong></p><h1><span>Step Four: Electricity!</span></h1><p><span>A simple idea as we go through this: energy is energy. It can take different forms, but it&#8217;s always energy.</span></p><p><span>It can&#8217;t be created or destroyed, only changed from one form into another. Some of that energy usually becomes less useful to us, often because it ends up dispersed as heat, but that&#8217;s another law of thermodynamics and not quite what we&#8217;re on about here. At least not yet.</span></p><p><span>I won&#8217;t go into the full conversion here, but joules can be converted to kilowatt-hours, the unit of energy we pay for on our electric bills each month.</span></p><p><span>It goes like this:</span></p><p><span>1 kWh = 3.6 &#215; 10</span><sup><span>6</span></sup><span> joules</span></p><p><span>So let&#8217;s convert the energy Heat Wave needs into kilowatt-hours.</span></p><p><span>2.6 &#215; 10</span><sup><span>15</span></sup><span> joules &#247; 3.6 &#215; 10</span><sup><span>6</span></sup><span> joules/kWh = 720 million kWh</span></p><p><span>or</span></p><p><strong><span>720 gigawatt-hours.</span></strong></p><p><span>That&#8217;s still a ridiculous number, but this one comes with a price tag.</span></p><p><span>Let&#8217;s say Heat Wave&#8217;s heat generators are plugged into the power grid. Not a great idea, but go with me here. As I mentioned earlier, kilowatt-hours are the unit we use to measure the electrical energy we buy from the power company. Think of them like gallons of gasoline. You pay for gas per gallon; you pay for electricity per kilowatt-hour used.</span></p><p><span>Heat Wave uses 720 million kilowatt-hours of electricity to vaporize a billion kilograms of river water.</span></p><p><span>Okay&#8230;</span></p><p><span>Let&#8217;s try this with a nice, round industrial electricity rate of $0.10 per kilowatt-hour. Hey, maybe Heat Wave knows someone at the power company and can get a good deal&#8230;</span></p><p><strong><span>720,000,000 kilowatt-hours &#215; $0.10/kWh = $72 million.</span></strong></p><p><span>Okay, maybe he just plugged his heat rays into some nearby houses with extension cords. Residential electric rates are a little higher than industrial rates, because of course they are, so let&#8217;s say $0.18/kWh.</span></p><p><strong><span>720,000,000 kilowatt-hours &#215; $0.18/kWh = $130 million.</span></strong></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BKBY!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcddab97c-eb76-4a94-805d-8c3d8694d503_677x977.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BKBY!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcddab97c-eb76-4a94-805d-8c3d8694d503_677x977.png 424w, 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towering walls of river water." title="Heat Wave stands on a shipwreck as the Flash approaches through steam and towering walls of river water." srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BKBY!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcddab97c-eb76-4a94-805d-8c3d8694d503_677x977.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BKBY!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcddab97c-eb76-4a94-805d-8c3d8694d503_677x977.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BKBY!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcddab97c-eb76-4a94-805d-8c3d8694d503_677x977.png 1272w, 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Like a Scrooge McDuck swimming pool of gold coins-level loot crate. (Image: DC Comics)</em></figcaption></figure></div><p><span>This assumes the heat rays are 100% efficient, that is, every joule of electricity is converted into heat in the river.</span></p><p><span>That&#8217;s not happening.</span></p><p><span>Some of that energy will heat the generators, the air, the riverbed, and pretty much everything else nearby, so the prices above are lowballing it. If Heat Wave is paying for electricity, his actual bill could easily run into the hundreds of millions of dollars.</span></p><p><span>In the final panel of the issue, Heat Wave is standing on the deck of what looks like a recovered ship, his foot resting on a chest full of&#8212;I guess?&#8212;treasure. It&#8217;s going to take a </span><em><strong><span>lot </span></strong></em><span>of treasure to achieve any reasonable ROI.</span></p><p><span>Okay, okay &#8212; he&#8217;s most likely not plugging the heat rays into the city&#8217;s power grid. Presumably, they have their own power source. Nuclear power is at the top of that list.  Yeah, if we go down this road, </span><strong><span>Heat Wave brought six extremely unlicensed nuclear power systems into Central City and turned the dials to 11.</span></strong></p><p><span>But wait &#8212; there&#8217;s more! How fast did Heat Wave do this?</span></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/p/heat-wave-vaporized-river-physics?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.thescienceof.org/p/heat-wave-vaporized-river-physics?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p><h1>Step Five: Power! </h1><p><span>Power is the rate of change of energy per unit time. Energy tells us how much. Power tells us how fast.</span></p><p><span>The formula for power looks like this:</span></p><p><strong><span>Power = energy &#247; time</span></strong></p><p><span>When energy is measured in joules and time in seconds, the answer comes out in watts.</span></p><p><span>I know we were talking about kilowatt-hours above, but now we&#8217;re asking a different question. Before, we wanted to know how much energy Heat Wave needed. Now we want to know how quickly he delivered it. The same amount of energy delivered over an hour and delivered in 30 seconds is still the same amount of energy. But the second one requires vastly more power.</span></p><p><span>Let&#8217;s say it took Heat Wave 30 seconds to vaporize one billion kilograms of river water. I&#8217;m guessing here, but the comic certainly doesn&#8217;t make it look like he spent the afternoon doing this.</span></p><p><span>That would look like this:</span></p><p><span>Power = 2.6 &#215; 10</span><sup><span>15</span></sup><span> joules &#247; 30 seconds</span></p><p><span>Power = 8.7 &#215; 10</span><sup><span>13</span></sup><span> watts</span></p><p><span>or</span></p><p><strong><span>87 terawatts.</span></strong></p><p><span>I know. We&#8217;ve got another ridiculous number that means almost nothing on its own. Let&#8217;s put it into context. In 2025, the entire world used </span><a href="https://asian-power.com/news/global-electricity-demand-hits-record-31779-twh-in-2025-growth-pace-eases"><span>31,779 terawatt-hours of electricity.</span></a><span> Spread across the year, that means the entire world was using electricity at an average rate of about 3.63 terawatts at any given moment.</span></p><p><span>Heat Wave&#8217;s generators would need to produce 87 terawatts&#8212;about 24 times the average electrical power being used by the entire world.</span></p><p><span>For 30 seconds.</span></p><p><span>And that&#8217;s just to clear the river once. Even in comics, rivers keep flowing.</span></p><p><span>That treasure </span><em><strong><span>really </span></strong></em><span>better be worth it.</span></p><h1>Step Six: Rivers Are Gonna&#8230;River?</h1><p><span>The first billion kilograms of water was just the cover charge.</span></p><p><span>Once the riverbed is exposed, Heat Wave has to keep paying. He has to keep vaporizing water.</span></p><p><span>I&#8217;m going to try and keep this short, but Heat Wave needs to do three things:</span></p><ol><li><p><span>Vaporize &#8216;a section&#8217; of the river &#8212; which has already required a lot of energy.</span></p></li><li><p><span>Hold back vertical walls of water without a dam. And I don&#8217;t see Moses.</span></p></li><li><p><span>Continuously vaporize new water flowing in from upstream</span></p></li></ol><p><span>We&#8217;ve handled #1; let&#8217;s skip #2 for a second and deal with #3.</span></p><p><span>I&#8217;m not budging on this one &#8212; he has to be continuously vaporizing the water; otherwise, it would pile up and flood the downtown (and flow around the wall, filling the exposed area again).</span></p><p><span>So while we&#8217;re working out an energy budget, let&#8217;s add what it would take to keep vaporizing water as it flows into the exposed riverbed.</span></p><p><span>A ballpark flow rate for a large river &#8212; let&#8217;s go with about 1,000 m&#179; of water per second.</span></p><p><span>Each cubic meter of water has a mass of 1,000 kg, so:</span></p><p><span>1000 m</span><sup><span>3</span></sup><span>/second &#215; 1,000 kg/m</span><sup><span>3</span></sup><span> = 1,000,000 kg/s</span></p><p><span>That&#8217;s one million kilograms of water per second that needs to be vaporized to keep the exposed area water-free.</span></p><p><span>To vaporize incoming water continuously, Heat Wave would need:</span></p><p><span>1,000,000 kg/s &#215; 2.6 &#215; 10</span><sup><span>6</span></sup><span> J/kg = 2.6 &#215; 10</span><sup><span>12  </span></sup><span>joules/second</span></p><p><span>Since J/s = watts, that&#8217;s </span><strong><span>2.6 terawatts.</span></strong></p><p><span>So even after the initial blast, Heat Wave needs roughly 2.6 TW of continuous power to keep the river from refilling. That&#8217;s about 70% of the entire world&#8217;s average electrical power consumption in 2025.</span></p><p><span>And again, that still doesn&#8217;t explain #2 &#8212; the water walls.</span></p><p><span>Maybe he&#8217;s vaporizing the water right where it flows into the exposed area, creating the appearance of a vertical wall of water? But that surface would look like the top of a violently boiling pot, not a clean wall of water.</span></p><p><span>In the panel, the river appears to stop at the edges of the exposed riverbed, standing there like it got a polite note from management.</span></p><p><span>That is not how liquids behave.</span></p><p><span>But given that this is </span><strong><span>how</span></strong><span> the water is behaving&#8212;and given that Flash is standing inside the water wall (above) </span><em><span>without </span></em><span>being boiled alive&#8212;I&#8217;m willing to budge on #2 and let the wall go. It&#8217;s some kind of force-field magic.</span></p><p><span>But the other stuff? Where there&#8217;s steam, there&#8217;s heat. Heat Wave </span><em><strong><span>says </span></strong></em><span>it&#8217;s heat. So the missing billion kilograms of water? That was vaporized.</span></p><p><span>And somehow the upstream flow of the river is being stopped, so continuous vaporization isn&#8217;t off the table entirely.</span></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.thescienceof.org/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><h1>A Quick Weather Forecast&#8230;</h1><p><span>So far, this has all been about energy. The thing is, energy&#8212;and water&#8212;in the atmosphere are what drive weather.</span></p><p><span>You can probably see where this is going.</span></p><p><span>Again, with the caveat: </span><em><span>&#8220;If this took place in our universe&#8230;&#8221;</span></em></p><p><span>Let&#8217;s run the meteorological numbers:</span></p><ol><li><p><span>One billion kilograms of water is on the order of the amount of water contained in a large thunderstorm. Heat Wave effectively put an entire thunderstorm&#8217;s worth of water into the atmosphere over Central City </span><em><span>instantly</span></em><span>.</span></p></li><li><p><span>The air around the river would become extremely warm and saturated with water vapor.  That heat and humidity are extremely dangerous to anyone exposed to them (see my pal Joe Hanson explain it over </span><a href="https://youtu.be/8sURT_P4VY8?si=5Q755CWhhflsUmw_"><span>here</span></a><span>), but let&#8217;s worry about the weather. As shown in the art, dense clouds will form almost immediately. <br><br>(</span><em><span>Technically, the white stuff we can see isn&#8217;t water vapor. Water vapor is invisible. Those clouds are tiny liquid water droplets that have already condensed.)</span></em><span> <br><br>But that enormous mass of hot, moist air isn&#8217;t going to politely hug the ground and turn Central City into Jack the Ripper&#8217;s foggy London.</span></p></li><li><p><span>Turning liquid water into vapor takes in heat, but turning vapor back into liquid water releases heat. How much heat? Well, it took 2.26 petajoules to change that boiling water into vapor, so up to 2.26 petajoules of latent heat can be released as that vapor condenses. <br><br>That is an enormous amount of energy being released into the atmosphere, and it would drive powerful convection. So yeah&#8212;given a reasonably unstable atmosphere, Heat Wave may have just whipped up a massive thunderstorm from scratch, which means he&#8217;s stomping all over the territory of this fellow Rogue: </span></p></li></ol><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pntg!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fec42e838-4a17-430b-8126-516d71fd449c_1373x1920.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pntg!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fec42e838-4a17-430b-8126-516d71fd449c_1373x1920.png 424w, 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stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>I get that the Rogues are a loose fraternity, but come on&#8230;Heat Wave is clearly doing some IP theft here. (Image, DC Comics)</em></figcaption></figure></div><p><span>But we&#8217;re not done with this just yet.</span></p><ol start="4"><li><p><span>The enormous mass of hot, moist air would be highly buoyant and rise rapidly.  In weather-ese, those are called updrafts. Any planes trying to fly through that rapidly developing convection would have a very bad day. How high would it go? That depends on the atmosphere over Central City that day. But a powerful thunderstorm can reach the upper troposphere and, in extreme cases, push against or even briefly overshoot the tropopause. <br><br>Yeah. We&#8217;re cooking up some sweet weather now.</span></p></li><li><p><span>As the rising air cools and water vapor condenses, clouds form, and precipitation begins.  Given the sheer amount of water available, the rainfall could be easily described as </span><em><span>torrential</span></em><span>. If the storm develops strong enough updrafts to carry water above the freezing level and keep hailstones aloft, hail becomes possible, too. <br><br>Heat Wave put a chunk of the river&#8217;s water into the atmosphere. Now some of it is coming back down on Central City.</span></p></li><li><p><span>And then, quite possibly, the lightning. Oh, there could be a </span><em><span>lot</span></em><span> of lightning.</span></p></li><li><p><span>And shockwaves. All of that newly heated water vapor and hot air has to go somewhere, and initially, it would push the surrounding atmosphere out of its way. As that enormous mass of hot, moist air rises, surrounding air would flow in underneath it to replace it.  Later, rain-cooled air could come crashing back down as powerful downdrafts, spreading outward when it hits the ground as a gust front. So now we&#8217;ve potentially got torrential rain, strong winds, lightning, and maybe hail.<br><br>Heat Wave wanted to empty a river. He made weather.</span></p></li></ol><h1><span>But&#8230;In the End&#8230;</span></h1><p><span>Of course, we don&#8217;t see any of this happen.</span></p><p><span>We don&#8217;t see the massive thunderstorm. We don&#8217;t see the river immediately trying to refill itself. We don&#8217;t see Central City dealing with 2.6 petajoules of heat dumped into a billion kilograms of water.</span></p><p><span>And Flash is standing inside a vertical wall of water that should be boiling, so clearly, something else is going on here.</span></p><p><span>Which is fine.</span></p><p><span>The Flash operates under a different set of physics. We&#8217;ve known that for a long time. There&#8217;s the Speed Force, after all. Maybe Heat Wave has found the Heat Force (</span><em><span>Heat Force, &#169; Matt Brady, 2026, in case he hasn&#8217;t</span></em><span>). I don&#8217;t know. I don&#8217;t make the rules.</span></p><p><span>And really, I think our boy Captain Carrot said it best:</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PpOj!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc9e00b86-a6fc-4d2c-bab8-d09fff4efe18_825x413.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PpOj!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc9e00b86-a6fc-4d2c-bab8-d09fff4efe18_825x413.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PpOj!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc9e00b86-a6fc-4d2c-bab8-d09fff4efe18_825x413.png 848w, 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I would like to take this opportunity to state for the record that I am not stalking Ryan North (that he knows about), nor am I Ryan&#8217;s secret child (I&#8217;m older than him), nor is he my son (he&#8217;s Canadian&#8212;not that there&#8217;s anything wrong with that - little jelly about that these days, actually).</em></p><p><em>I love the big science ideas or tidbits Ryan always puts in his stories. </em></p><p><em>They make me feel like a kid reading comics again&#8212;I&#8217;m excited, curious, and wondering about the story and ideas. It&#8217;s a good thing. </em></p><p><em>Ryan, this should make your lawyers happy, right? </em></p><p><em><strong>Curiosity is what brought me here.</strong></em></p><p><em><strong>Teaching is what I do with it.</strong></em></p><p><em><strong><span>If you&#8217;d like to read more about education, classrooms, students, and the craft of teaching, you&#8217;ll find those stories in </span><a href="https://bradyteach.substack.com/">Teacher, Teacher</a><span>.</span></strong></em></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Star Trek’s Gorn Are Horrifying. The Science Is Worse.]]></title><description><![CDATA[The Gorn spray their eggs into living hosts. Their babies kill their siblings. They hunt in packs. The disturbing part?
Earth already invented most of this.]]></description><link>https://www.thescienceof.org/p/star-treks-gorn-are-horrifying-the</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.thescienceof.org/p/star-treks-gorn-are-horrifying-the</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt Brady]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2026 21:16:35 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/8d68056f-5670-4ef1-8608-85d7dfc2c1a5_1207x800.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Artifact Recovered: original publication date: 8/27/23</em></p><p><em>This piece was originally published on a previous version of The Science Of and has been recovered from the digital strata. Its lightly edited version is represented here because it&#8217;s useful, weird, fascinating, updated, or some combination of the four.</em></p><p><span>Let&#8217;s talk about</span><a href="https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Gorn"><span> the Gorn</span></a><span>.</span></p><p><span>First introduced in the 1967 </span><em><a href="https://pluto.tv/us/on-demand/series/63641f341ac5b40013b2bb0c/season/1/episode/63643b643cd2460013426225"><span>Star Trek (TOS</span></a></em><a href="https://pluto.tv/us/on-demand/series/63641f341ac5b40013b2bb0c/season/1/episode/63643b643cd2460013426225"><span>) episode &#8220;Arena,&#8221;</span></a><span> the Gorn morphed from a guy in an off-the-rack monster suit into a Xenomorph/Predator-esque threat with their own spin.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WZlU!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F21cf5f55-0f5c-4986-9f5a-b4ac785fe3e1_623x492.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WZlU!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F21cf5f55-0f5c-4986-9f5a-b4ac785fe3e1_623x492.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WZlU!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F21cf5f55-0f5c-4986-9f5a-b4ac785fe3e1_623x492.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WZlU!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F21cf5f55-0f5c-4986-9f5a-b4ac785fe3e1_623x492.jpeg 1272w, 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That costume was about as comfortable as it looks. Hard, inflexible rubber in the sun. Yay. (Image: Paramount/CBS)</em></figcaption></figure></div><p><span>Now, 56 years later, they&#8217;re a chilling threat to the Federation in </span><em><span>Star Trek: Strange New Worlds.</span></em><span> They first made themselves known in season 1, and &#8230; yeah, that season 2 cliffhanger.</span></p><p><span>And holy crap, they&#8217;re tough. And scary.</span></p><p><span>To help dig into the science of the Gorn, I sought some help from </span><a href="https://provost.duke.edu/profile/mohamed-noor/"><span>Dr. Mohammed Noor</span></a><span>, a biology professor at Duke University and author of </span><em><a href="https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691177410/live-long-and-evolve"><span>Live Long and Evolve: What Star Trek Can Teach Us About Evolution, Genetics, and Life on Other Worlds</span></a></em><span>, and, as he calls it, an &#8220;occasional Star Trek science consultant.&#8221;</span></p><p><span>Noor&#8217;s YouTube channel,</span><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@BioTrekkie/videos"><span> </span></a><strong><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@BioTrekkie/videos"><span>BioTrekkie Explains</span></a></strong><span>, features Noor as well as his semi-regular guest, actor (and Duke almuna) </span><a href="https://dukemag.duke.edu/stories/seeds-career"><span>Jayne Brook</span></a><span>, who played Admiral Katrina Cornwell on </span><em><span>Star Trek: Discovery</span></em><span>. Together, they dig into the life science of all the Treks. </span><em><span>An aside to biology students and STEM teachers: it&#8217;s a great review of major concepts in the life sciences. </span></em></p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Subscribe! It only gets weirder from here&#8230;</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p><span>Before we get into the possibilities and plausibilities, from the start, this is chiefly about the modern </span><em><span>Strange New Worlds</span></em><span> Gorn. They&#8217;ve shown up in many places throughout Star Trek canon, with each iteration a little bit off from what was seen before.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LXXs!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa056ebd0-8747-4b26-bcee-8fc9542a3f56_1600x898.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LXXs!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa056ebd0-8747-4b26-bcee-8fc9542a3f56_1600x898.jpeg 424w, 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stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>These Gorn can make EV suits and are at home in limited gravity. That&#8217;s new. (Image - Paramount/CBS)</em></figcaption></figure></div><p><span> That said, a quick rundown of modern-day Gorn would be useful. What we know about the Gorn so far:</span></p><ul><li><p><span>They are quadrupedal reptiles early in life and apparently become bipedal as adults.</span></p></li><li><p><span>They are reportedly cold-blooded, slowed, and/or killed by extremely low temperatures.</span></p></li><li><p><span>They have at least two distinct life stages - hatchling/juvenile and adult. Both have tails.</span></p></li><li><p><span>They are social, interacting in social groups towards a common goal or outcome. Their larger governmental organization is the Gorn Hegemony, located in the Beta Quadrant of the galaxy.</span></p></li><li><p><span>They implant parasitic eggs in other warm-blooded life forms.</span></p></li><li><p><span>They are cunning hunters, often using bait to lure other prey.</span></p></li><li><p><span>They hunt humanoids, deposit eggs in them, and relocate them to &#8220;breeder worlds,&#8221; where the eggs hatch from the humanoids. Some humanoids are hunted for &#8220;sport.&#8221;</span></p></li><li><p><span>Hatchlings can implant eggs in hosts, apparently without first mating.</span></p></li><li><p><span>The eggs &#8212; or whatever reproductive stage eventually becomes an egg &#8212; are transmitted in the Gorn&#8217;s saliva or venom. Get sprayed, and you&#8217;re a baby factory.</span></p></li><li><p><span>The hatched offspring compete, killing one another until only the strongest Gorn survives.</span></p></li><li><p><span>Mature Gorn return to the breeder worlds to &#8220;harvest&#8221; the strongest, surviving Gorn. The sole survivor is taken to the homeworld or placed in a &#8220;liferaft&#8221; and sent into space to get even tougher.</span></p></li><li><p><span>Their civilization has developed warp capabilities and protective gear for being in space.</span></p></li><li><p><span>Through some unknown adaptation or technology, Gorn can survive being in the vacuum of space.</span></p></li></ul><p><span>That&#8217;s a long, scary list.</span></p><p><span>If we hold it against earth-based science, how do some major Gorn characteristics check out? That&#8217;s what Dr. Noor is here for.</span></p><div class="captioned-button-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/p/star-treks-gorn-are-horrifying-the?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="CaptionedButtonToDOM"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Share this with your nerdy, space-dinosaur-loving friends! </p></div><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/p/star-treks-gorn-are-horrifying-the?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.thescienceof.org/p/star-treks-gorn-are-horrifying-the?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p></div><h2><strong><span>The &#8220;Cold-Blooded&#8221; Reptile Thing&#8230;</span></strong></h2><p><span>&#8220;I was absolutely thrilled to see the Gorn come back, and it&#8217;s nice seeing more biology around it, as opposed to just sort of the stereotype of like, oh, it&#8217;s a reptile, it&#8217;s slow and kind of dumb,&#8221; Noor says. &#8220;They&#8217;re not necessarily slow. Especially that original reptile on a hot planet &#8212; there&#8217;s no reason for it to be slow. Or even cold-blooded, really.&#8221;</span></p><p><span>Matching Gorn biology with what we know about large reptiles that once dominated our planet, there is an argument to be made that, given their activity level, Gorn are warm-blooded. Since the late 1960s, the old picture of dinosaurs as uniformly sluggish, cold-blooded reptiles has largely collapsed. But dinosaur metabolism was probably more complicated than simply warm-blooded or cold-blooded. Some evidence suggests that several dinosaur lineages had high, bird-like metabolic rates, while others, including </span><em><span>Stegosaurus</span></em><span> and some other ornithischians, evolved lower metabolic rates.</span></p><p><span>Theropods &#8212; the saurischian lineage that includes </span><em><span>Velociraptor</span></em><span>, </span><em><span>Tyrannosaurus</span></em><span>, and living birds &#8212; show some of the strongest evidence for high metabolic rates. Other dinosaur groups appear to have followed different physiological paths.</span></p><p><span>Gorn. Warm-blooded space dinosaurs.</span></p><h2><strong><span>The Social Reptile Thing&#8230;</span></strong></h2><p><span>Don&#8217;t let your mammal-centric feelings about solitary snakes color your judgment.</span></p><p><span>&#8220;Reptiles are an incredibly broad group,&#8221; Noor says. &#8220;We see birds working together, sometimes with what seems like a surprising level of intelligence. &#8220;And there&#8217;s a large body of evidence to suggest that, along with some modern reptiles, many types of dinosaurs lived in social groups, with some possibly hunting cooperatively.&#8221;</span></p><p><span>Remember </span><strong><span>Jurassic Park</span></strong><span>?</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" 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behavior.&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Two velociraptors hunt a boy hiding in a kitchen in Jurassic Park, illustrating coordinated pack behavior." title="Two velociraptors hunt a boy hiding in a kitchen in Jurassic Park, illustrating coordinated pack behavior." srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Bcic!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0857ff77-2c73-478b-bd69-a749bfab9cb2_1280x721.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Bcic!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0857ff77-2c73-478b-bd69-a749bfab9cb2_1280x721.png 848w, 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7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"> <em>Hunting as a pack requires a level of social connection, as Tim learned (Image: Universal Pictures)</em></figcaption></figure></div><p><span>&#8220;It was long and erroneously thought that reptiles were non-social, but that&#8217;s just not true,&#8221; Noor says. &#8220;Part of that comes from comparing parental care between reptiles and mammals and birds; there&#8217;s a lot less. One estimate suggests that roughly 97% of reptile species provide no parental care after laying their eggs. That&#8217;s a pretty small involvement. But that three percent&#8230;</span></p><p><span>&#8220;Just a couple of examples - some Australian skinks live in monogamous family groupings. So not just mother and father, but also their aunts, uncles, and others. They&#8217;ll live together socially and interact socially. Alligators in Florida are known for forming large groups of up to 100 animals. Within those groups, you can see courtship dances and other behaviors that suggest a hierarchy. Even tortoises, which people tend to think of as slow, both physically and mentally, have been shown to learn from watching others. It&#8217;s not outrageous that we see intelligent and interactive reptiles like these Gorn in the episodes. We should just be thankful we don&#8217;t have them on Earth. They seem to have their act together as a species.&#8221;</span></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.thescienceof.org/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><h2><strong><span>The Killing Brothers and Sisters Thing&#8230;</span></strong></h2><p><span>That&#8217;s the Gorn&#8217;s very Shakespearean twist -</span><a href="https://www.birdwatchingdaily.com/news/science/eldon-greij-explains-siblicide/"><span> siblicide</span></a><span>.</span></p><p><span>Someone may occasionally want to &#8220;kill&#8221; a brother or sister, but the Gorn take it to the next level. Shortly after emerging from the host, they go after one another. It&#8217;s a creepy, horrific thing as seen in </span><strong><span>Strange New Worlds</span></strong><span>.</span></p><p><span>It&#8217;s also seen here.</span></p><p><span>&#8220;There are cases on Earth, but we don&#8217;t really know </span><em><span>why </span></em><span>the animals do it,&#8221; Noor said. &#8220;This has been studied in boobies &#8212; the bird with the unfortunate name &#8212; and with them, it&#8217;s related to resource scarcity. Basically, the parents produce more offspring than available resources can support, so it&#8217;s every baby for itself.&#8221;</span></p><p><span>In the case of the boobies, siblicide results in one hatchling growing larger and stronger than the others, which it then kills or throws from the nest for other predators to pick off.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CRSe!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F24c380e1-1897-4d8e-b85d-87b8b6e641b0_1200x676.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CRSe!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F24c380e1-1897-4d8e-b85d-87b8b6e641b0_1200x676.jpeg 424w, 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stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Juvenile Gorn. Somehow equally weird and terrifying. (image: Paramount/CBS)</em></figcaption></figure></div><p><span>&#8220;It&#8217;s certainly not a pretty side of nature,&#8221; Noor said. &#8220;We tend to see more cooperation between siblings than siblicide. But if resources are limited, it&#8217;s better that one makes it than none make it so that the genes can be passed on to the next generation. It wasn&#8217;t siblicide, but </span><em><span>Star Trek </span></em><span>has touched on this idea in the original series episode, &#8216;The Conscience of the King.&#8217; The crew suspected that the actor was actually Kodos the Executioner, who had put 8000 colonists to death because there weren&#8217;t resources for the entire colony.</span></p><p><span>&#8220;Also &#8212; siblicide, in a way, could be a hedge against incest and all the problems that can bring, genetically. It&#8217;s difficult to mate with your sibling if you&#8217;ve killed and eaten all your siblings. The behavior isn&#8217;t entirely uncommon, but when it happens between siblings &#8212; especially those just hatched &#8212; it makes us sit up and notice.&#8221;</span></p><p><span>The behavior is easily explained with the Gorn &#8212; the toughest sibling survives. As the stories suggest, mature Gorn return to a hatchling world to pick up the survivor, either to bring them to the home planet or toss them into a &#8220;lifeboat&#8221; and then into space to keep that &#8220;survival of the fittest&#8221; thing going.</span></p><p><span>That&#8217;s rough.</span></p><h2><strong><span>The Egg-Spraying Thing&#8230;</span></strong></h2><p><span>Gorn hatchlings (and presumably their other forms) spray anything that gets too close to them with a venom that can blind their target but also is loaded with eggs. The eggs enter the host&#8217;s body through the mucous membranes or burrow through the skin and start to develop. Sometime later, they hatch and eat their way out of the host.</span></p><p><span>Hope you&#8217;re not eating because this directly correlates to animals on Earth.</span></p><p><span>&#8220;There&#8217;s a</span><a href="https://www.vox.com/down-to-earth/2022/10/27/23424362/freshwater-mussels-fish-lure-extinction"><span> freshwater mussel genus called Lampsillis</span></a><span> in many places that has a little bit of itself that extends outside of its shells and looks like something larger fish would like to eat,&#8221; Noor says. &#8220;But when the fish comes to bite the lure, the mussel releases a cloud of larvae called glochidia. These latch onto the fish&#8217;s gills, where they develop before eventually dropping off. These babies latch on to the fish&#8217;s gills, where they feed and grow. They often drop off once they reach a certain size after riding the fish for a few days to months. This fish may suffer a little bit, but usually, they live through the experience.&#8221;</span></p><div id="youtube2-4N4OdYRkigE" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;4N4OdYRkigE&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:null,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/4N4OdYRkigE?rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div><p><span>But still &#8212; very Gorn-like, catching a spray of babies in the face.</span></p><p><span>But let&#8217;s look at the egg spray together with another aspect of Gorn reproductive physiology: the hatchlings are apparently loaded with viable eggs from the start and ready to spray anyone who gets near them.</span></p><p><span>Not unheard of. Aphids, for example, are &#8220;born pregnant.&#8221; Other animals follow these lines from birth, but let&#8217;s start with aphids as a simple example. Aphids, for example, can quite literally be &#8220;born pregnant.&#8221; During the asexual part of their life cycle, females produce genetically near-identical daughters through parthenogenesis. Those daughters can already contain developing embryos of the next generation &#8212; a reproductive trick called telescoping generations.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!x1Yp!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc2b5e1b7-4066-494b-a927-202eebd69b0e_1207x800.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!x1Yp!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc2b5e1b7-4066-494b-a927-202eebd69b0e_1207x800.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!x1Yp!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc2b5e1b7-4066-494b-a927-202eebd69b0e_1207x800.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!x1Yp!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc2b5e1b7-4066-494b-a927-202eebd69b0e_1207x800.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!x1Yp!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc2b5e1b7-4066-494b-a927-202eebd69b0e_1207x800.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!x1Yp!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc2b5e1b7-4066-494b-a927-202eebd69b0e_1207x800.jpeg" width="1207" height="800" 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Less weird. More teeth. (Image: Paramount/CBS)</em></figcaption></figure></div><p><span>Reproduction without a male is called</span><a href="https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/article/parthenogenesis-how-animals-have-virgin-births"><span> parthenogenesis</span></a><span> and is relatively common in insects, amphibians, and reptiles.</span></p><p><span>&#8220;Geckos, whiptail lizards, some snakes, and even Komodo dragons can reproduce asexually if the conditions are all right for it,&#8221; Noor said. &#8220;Essentially, though, most are just making clones of themselves, if that&#8217;s the case.&#8221;</span></p><p><span>In the old ecological shorthand, the Gorn look strongly </span><em><a href="https://thinkwildlifefoundation.com/what-is-the-r-k-selection-theory/"><span>r</span></a></em><a href="https://thinkwildlifefoundation.com/what-is-the-r-k-selection-theory/"><span>-selected</span></a><span>. That means producing large numbers of offspring quickly, with the expectation that many will die before reproducing.  In r-selected species, many offspring are produced, but not all of them will survive.</span></p><p><span>It may become clearer if we can pull back and look at it from a distance. Gorn eggs are laid inside hosts, say 20 colonists, each getting four viable hatchlings inside them. 80 hatchlings show up. That&#8217;s explosive growth and more than the environment can support, so, through competition for resources (via siblicide), their numbers drop until more hosts are found.</span></p><p><span>This style of explosive growth might be ringing recognition bells in your head - it&#8217;s quite similar to the exponential growth seen in viruses. Put a Gorn hatching in a large city, and let it spray. Each host produces four viable offspring, which then spray others, generation after generation. That was COVID-19.</span></p><p><span>Virus spread can be measured by its</span><a href="https://www.healthline.com/health/r-naught-reproduction-number"><span> Basic Reproduction number, R</span><sub><span>0</span></sub><span> (R-naught)</span></a><span>. During the height of the pandemic, epidemiologists hoped for R</span><sub><span>0</span></sub><span> to drop below 1, meaning that every infected person infected, on average, fewer than one other person, making it extremely difficult for the virus to spread. During the initial COVID-19 outbreak, we looked at the classic </span><strong><span>Batman: Contagion</span></strong><span> storyline for examples of the</span><a href="https://thescienceof.org/batman-contagion-and-r-naught/"><span> R</span><sub><span>0</span></sub><span> of the &#8220;Clench&#8221; virus</span></a><span> and its</span><a href="https://thescienceof.org/batman-contagion-and-sars-cov-2/"><span> exponential growth</span></a><span>.  (archive articles coming soon!)</span></p><p><span>If each infected host ultimately produced four hatchlings, and each hatchling successfully infected one new host, the process would have an effective reproduction number of 4.  Not wildly big, but large enough to do the job. Of course, the hatchlings would also be going after one another, so the analogy&#8217;s not perfect.</span></p><p><span>But if you want to think of the Gorn as intelligent, viral space dinosaurs, that does get the idea across.</span></p><p><span>With all that in their favor, what stops the Gorn from taking over star systems and, ultimately, galaxies?</span></p><p><span>I&#8217;m going to go with the Federation. And probable Klingons and Romulans, too. Maybe the Borg. Competitors for resources on a galactic scale.</span></p><h2><strong><span>That Gorn Reproduction Thing&#8230;</span></strong></h2><p><span>If you were thinking that the Gorn probably can&#8217;t rely on cloning alone forever, you may be right &#8212; although nature is weirder than that. Some species reproduce asexually for enormous stretches of evolutionary time. But for many organisms, sexual reproduction offers a major advantage: recombination continually reshuffles genetic variation.</span></p><p><span>A newly established population founded by only one or a few individuals can also suffer from a </span><a href="https://www.genome.gov/genetics-glossary/Founder-Effect"><span>founder effect</span></a><span>, carrying only a fraction of the genetic variation found in the original population. Genetic variation enables adaptation to the environment and protection against threats. If everyone&#8217;s genes are the same and a disease is introduced, no one has a defense for it, and the population is wiped out.</span></p><p><span>Genetic variation usually gives populations more evolutionary options when environments change.</span></p><p><span>So a single hatchling could establish a small colony of Gorn on a breeder world, but then what? Yes, there would be some mutation when the DNA of the Gorn is being copied, but that wouldn&#8217;t be a huge amount. Asexual reproduction will only get them so far. You need sex to really shine as a species.</span></p><p><span>Come out on top of the heap on a Gorn breeder world, and you may get picked up and taken back home.</span></p><p><span>To have sex.</span></p><p><span>Sexual reproduction reshuffles genetic material, producing genetically different offspring and potentially giving populations more ways to respond to disease and environmental change.  More robust offspring can better handle environmental challenges. Without sexual reproduction, your species is at a serious disadvantage to those that do.</span></p><h2><strong><span>That Gorn Evolution Thing&#8230;</span></strong></h2><p><span>How would you end up with a Gorn world, anyway? In the world of </span><em><span>Star Trek</span></em><span>, it&#8217;s a given - lots of alien species. But let&#8217;s play in our sandbox &#8212; Earth.</span></p><p><span>Biologist Stephen Jay Gould famously explained the chance nature of evolution by saying that if you &#8220;</span><a href="https://www.bayesianspectacles.org/replaying-the-tape-of-life/"><span>wound the tape back</span></a><span>&#8221; on Earth&#8217;s evolution, there&#8217;s no guarantee you would end up with humans being the dominant species.</span></p><p><span>Biologist</span><a href="https://biology.wustl.edu/people/jonathan-losos"><span> Jonathan Losos</span></a><span>, author of</span><strong><span> </span></strong><em><a href="https://www.jonathanlosos.com/books/improbable-destinies"><span>Improbable Destinies: Fate, Chance, and the Future of Evolution</span></a></em><span>, explained Gould&#8217;s classic line through the use of Disney&#8217;s </span><strong><span>The Good Dinosaur</span></strong><span>. The Chicxulub impactor &#8212; the asteroid that helped wipe out the non-avian dinosaurs 66 million years ago missed the Earth in the film. As a result, dinosaurs remained the dominant life forms on the planet but continued to evolve.</span></p><p><span>On that Earth, our Gorn analogs &#8212; theropods like </span><em><span>Velociraptor</span></em><span> and troodontids &#8212; were doing well &#8212; feathered, hunting in packs, and more than likely, demonstrating other bird-like behaviors. Given their anatomy, these bird-like dinosaurs would likely retain the classic theropod body plan, with the head carried forward and the tail acting as a counterbalance, even though they walk on two legs. If their brains and skulls became larger over millions of years, their bodies would have needed to compensate for the shifted center of mass &#8212; perhaps with changes to the tail, torso, or posture.</span></p><p><span>This isn&#8217;t to say that a fully bipedal humanoid (or Gorn)-style dinosaur </span><em><span>couldn&#8217;t</span></em><span> have evolved on Earth &#8212; it&#8217;s just that the theropods were doing pretty well, and the pathway for the evolution of a proto-Gorn wouldn&#8217;t have been a clear one. They would have had tough competition from the already-established theropods, which certainly would&#8217;ve seen them as a delicacy.</span></p><p><span>Back to Losos&#8217; theropod-ruled earth&#8230;</span></p><p><span>As Losos explains, there&#8217;s no reason to think that these super-smart birds wouldn&#8217;t have adopted the use of tools, artificial colorations, tribal society, and even technology. As the illustration from Losos&#8217; book offers:</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KKaM!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7257d144-74ab-4833-b402-2867d9043251_1982x1141.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KKaM!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7257d144-74ab-4833-b402-2867d9043251_1982x1141.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KKaM!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7257d144-74ab-4833-b402-2867d9043251_1982x1141.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KKaM!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7257d144-74ab-4833-b402-2867d9043251_1982x1141.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KKaM!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7257d144-74ab-4833-b402-2867d9043251_1982x1141.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KKaM!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7257d144-74ab-4833-b402-2867d9043251_1982x1141.jpeg" width="1456" height="838" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/7257d144-74ab-4833-b402-2867d9043251_1982x1141.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:838,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Black-and-white illustration of a feathered, bird-like dinosaur standing upright and holding a spear.&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Black-and-white illustration of a feathered, bird-like dinosaur standing upright and holding a spear." title="Black-and-white illustration of a feathered, bird-like dinosaur standing upright and holding a spear." srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KKaM!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7257d144-74ab-4833-b402-2867d9043251_1982x1141.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KKaM!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7257d144-74ab-4833-b402-2867d9043251_1982x1141.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KKaM!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7257d144-74ab-4833-b402-2867d9043251_1982x1141.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KKaM!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7257d144-74ab-4833-b402-2867d9043251_1982x1141.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Losos&#8217; take on a theropod on an Earth that dodges the asteroid a few million years on (Image, Jonathan Losos)</em></figcaption></figure></div><p><span>But as for &#8220;pure&#8221; Gorn on another world? Noor: &#8220;I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s a stretch. All of these features we see with the Gorn are at least very close to those we see in the animal kingdom on Earth, and evolution tends to follow its tried-and-true patterns for overcoming environmental obstacles. So it&#8217;s not a stretch to think that all of those characteristics we&#8217;ve been talking about could have come together in one particular, large reptile. Nothing there is breaking the laws of physics or something like that. I&#8217;m just glad it didn&#8217;t happen on Earth.&#8221;</span></p><p><span>Like all </span><em><span>Strange New Worlds</span></em><span> fans, Noor wants to see more Gorn, and hey, if there&#8217;s an opening for a science team to set up a research outpost on the Gorn homeworld someday (safety must be guaranteed), sign him up. &#8220;I really want to know their origin,&#8221; Noor said. &#8220;I&#8217;m wondering if the Gorn are going to touch on what we saw in the </span><em><span>Voyager </span></em><span>episode, &#8216;Distant Origin,&#8217; where some dinosaurs from Earth somehow moved into space and wound up in the Delta Quadrant, and evolved their civilization, or if they&#8217;re something entirely new. I hope we get to find out.&#8221;</span></p><p><em><strong>Curiosity is what brought me here.</strong></em></p><p><em><strong>Teaching is what I do with it.</strong></em></p><p><em><strong><span>If you&#8217;d like to read more about education, classrooms, students, and the craft of teaching, you&#8217;ll find those stories in </span><a href="https://bradyteach.substack.com/">Teacher, Teacher</a><span>.</span></strong></em></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Why Green Stars Don't Exist (And Why Supergirl Keeps Finding Them)]]></title><description><![CDATA[Supergirl sends Kara to a planet orbiting a green sun, which raises a surprisingly fascinating question: Can green stars actually exist? 

The answer takes us through binary star systems, phone screens, your own eyes, and one of the strangest facts in astrophysics.]]></description><link>https://www.thescienceof.org/p/why-green-stars-dont-exist-and-why</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.thescienceof.org/p/why-green-stars-dont-exist-and-why</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt Brady]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2026 18:57:33 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/c076839d-659d-402a-afc3-529ea7b6c604_1640x1049.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em><span>Super-slight spoilers for Supergirl (2026) and </span><strong><span>Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow</span></strong><span> (2021) ahead &#8212; but they&#8217;re about astrophysics and stellar evolution, not the story. I mean, it&#8217;s really small. It&#8217;s basically... in the title.</span></em></p><p><span>First and foremost&#8212;and this is the rule for every piece on The Science Of...&#8212;this isn&#8217;t about criticizing the source material. Opinions about </span><em><span>Supergirl </span></em><span>(or any film, comic, or television show) are what they are. We&#8217;re interested in the science and the questions the story raises.</span></p><p><span>Cool?</span></p><p><span>This time, the science starts with a green star.</span></p><p><span>And those don&#8217;t exist.</span></p><p><span>Which raises a wonderfully nerdy question: if green stars don&#8217;t exist... why do DC heroes keep running into them?</span></p><p><span>First up, a little history&#8230;</span></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.thescienceof.org/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><h1><span>TWINKLE, TWINKLE LITTLE GREEN STAR</span></h1><p><span>In </span><em><span>Supergirl</span></em><span>, Kara and Ruthye find themselves on the planet Barenton. The film places the planet in a binary star system, orbiting two suns: one yellow and one green. We&#8217;ll get to the green one in a minute, but first, just to be clear, this isn&#8217;t the first green star in DC history.</span></p><p><span>The first green star to harm a Kryptonian appeared in 1962&#8217;s </span><strong><span>Superman #155</span></strong><span>, &#8220;Superman Under a Green Sun.&#8221; The star was originally blue until the villain Drago changed it to green using a satellite (Apparently by adding a yellow filter? Silver Age comics were wonderful). The green light robbed Superman of his powers.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5Rzv!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc63bbb7d-0afb-4261-b9a3-80f3cfbb7d69_680x356.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5Rzv!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc63bbb7d-0afb-4261-b9a3-80f3cfbb7d69_680x356.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5Rzv!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc63bbb7d-0afb-4261-b9a3-80f3cfbb7d69_680x356.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5Rzv!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc63bbb7d-0afb-4261-b9a3-80f3cfbb7d69_680x356.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5Rzv!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc63bbb7d-0afb-4261-b9a3-80f3cfbb7d69_680x356.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5Rzv!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc63bbb7d-0afb-4261-b9a3-80f3cfbb7d69_680x356.jpeg" width="548" height="286.8941176470588" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/c63bbb7d-0afb-4261-b9a3-80f3cfbb7d69_680x356.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:356,&quot;width&quot;:680,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:548,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5Rzv!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc63bbb7d-0afb-4261-b9a3-80f3cfbb7d69_680x356.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5Rzv!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc63bbb7d-0afb-4261-b9a3-80f3cfbb7d69_680x356.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5Rzv!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc63bbb7d-0afb-4261-b9a3-80f3cfbb7d69_680x356.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5Rzv!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc63bbb7d-0afb-4261-b9a3-80f3cfbb7d69_680x356.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>The clock wasn&#8217;t ticking for Superman as loudly as it was for Supergirl in his original meeting with a green sun, but he&#8217;s looking like he has regrets. (Image, DC Comics)</em></figcaption></figure></div><p><span>Four years later in </span><strong><span>Action Comics #337</span></strong><span>, &#8220;The Green Sun Supergirl!&#8221; - Kara found herself on a planet orbiting a green sun, which also robbed her of her powers. And in 1967&#8217;s </span><strong><span>Justice League of America #53</span></strong><span>, Superman casually name-checked green stars as something that can rob him of his powers.</span></p><p><span>After that, green stars went quiet and didn&#8217;t play a role in any Super-stories for decades. They still existed in the DC Universe&#8217;s cosmology, as N&#8217;Gon did the whole villain origin story recap to Green Lantern in </span><strong><span>DC Comics Presents #26,</span></strong><span> &#8220;Between Friend and Foe.&#8221;</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AMEC!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F86bbe320-1890-4607-9e90-c7d0b43375bf_785x332.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AMEC!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F86bbe320-1890-4607-9e90-c7d0b43375bf_785x332.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AMEC!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F86bbe320-1890-4607-9e90-c7d0b43375bf_785x332.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AMEC!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F86bbe320-1890-4607-9e90-c7d0b43375bf_785x332.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AMEC!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F86bbe320-1890-4607-9e90-c7d0b43375bf_785x332.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AMEC!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F86bbe320-1890-4607-9e90-c7d0b43375bf_785x332.jpeg" width="785" height="332" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/86bbe320-1890-4607-9e90-c7d0b43375bf_785x332.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:332,&quot;width&quot;:785,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AMEC!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F86bbe320-1890-4607-9e90-c7d0b43375bf_785x332.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AMEC!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F86bbe320-1890-4607-9e90-c7d0b43375bf_785x332.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AMEC!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F86bbe320-1890-4607-9e90-c7d0b43375bf_785x332.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AMEC!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F86bbe320-1890-4607-9e90-c7d0b43375bf_785x332.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>N&#8217;Gon got a little mustache-twirly in his story. (Image, DC Comics)</em></figcaption></figure></div><p><span>Even though the series was the Superman team-up book, Superman didn&#8217;t encounter the green sun.</span></p><p><span>Green stars then took a very long nap until </span><a href="https://www.instagram.com/tomking_tk/?hl=enhttps://everlastingproductions.substack.com/"><span>Tom King</span></a><span> and </span><a href="https://www.instagram.com/bilquis/?hl=en"><span>Biliquis Evely</span></a><span>&#8217;s </span><strong><span>Supergirl:</span></strong><span> </span><strong><span>Woman of Tomorrow #5</span></strong><span> in 2021.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WdQM!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdbd74ee5-f872-46dc-9a22-047f501a096c_1640x1049.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WdQM!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdbd74ee5-f872-46dc-9a22-047f501a096c_1640x1049.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WdQM!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdbd74ee5-f872-46dc-9a22-047f501a096c_1640x1049.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WdQM!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdbd74ee5-f872-46dc-9a22-047f501a096c_1640x1049.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WdQM!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdbd74ee5-f872-46dc-9a22-047f501a096c_1640x1049.jpeg 1456w" 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Welcome to Barenton, full of monsters and orbiting an impossible star. (Image, DC Comics)</em></figcaption></figure></div><p><span>In the issue, the planet (and its sun) are known to Kara &#8212; and her cousin, Kel-El:</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LSF9!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F66a8344c-659f-4302-a14f-290da3ff1167_1270x2048.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LSF9!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F66a8344c-659f-4302-a14f-290da3ff1167_1270x2048.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LSF9!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F66a8344c-659f-4302-a14f-290da3ff1167_1270x2048.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LSF9!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F66a8344c-659f-4302-a14f-290da3ff1167_1270x2048.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LSF9!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F66a8344c-659f-4302-a14f-290da3ff1167_1270x2048.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LSF9!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F66a8344c-659f-4302-a14f-290da3ff1167_1270x2048.jpeg" width="446" height="719.2188976377953" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/66a8344c-659f-4302-a14f-290da3ff1167_1270x2048.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:2048,&quot;width&quot;:1270,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:446,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LSF9!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F66a8344c-659f-4302-a14f-290da3ff1167_1270x2048.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LSF9!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F66a8344c-659f-4302-a14f-290da3ff1167_1270x2048.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LSF9!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F66a8344c-659f-4302-a14f-290da3ff1167_1270x2048.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LSF9!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F66a8344c-659f-4302-a14f-290da3ff1167_1270x2048.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Kara in Woman of Tomorrow is very close to the character in Supergirl, but a little freer with her swears. (Image, DC Comics)</em></figcaption></figure></div><p><span>Tom King updates the idea a bit. Light from a green sun now acts much like Kryptonite. As the movie showed, and the comic makes clear, it&#8217;s a very painful way to die. A stellar-scale dose of Kryptonite. Literally killer sunburn. Kara needed to find shelter, and fast.</span></p><p><span>Although she did take a moment to get a couple of good shots in first:</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KH9q!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9c119823-97af-45e2-8bc6-699c21d6d1ae_1374x963.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KH9q!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9c119823-97af-45e2-8bc6-699c21d6d1ae_1374x963.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KH9q!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9c119823-97af-45e2-8bc6-699c21d6d1ae_1374x963.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KH9q!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9c119823-97af-45e2-8bc6-699c21d6d1ae_1374x963.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KH9q!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9c119823-97af-45e2-8bc6-699c21d6d1ae_1374x963.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KH9q!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9c119823-97af-45e2-8bc6-699c21d6d1ae_1374x963.png" width="592" height="414.9170305676856" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/9c119823-97af-45e2-8bc6-699c21d6d1ae_1374x963.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:963,&quot;width&quot;:1374,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:592,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KH9q!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9c119823-97af-45e2-8bc6-699c21d6d1ae_1374x963.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KH9q!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9c119823-97af-45e2-8bc6-699c21d6d1ae_1374x963.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KH9q!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9c119823-97af-45e2-8bc6-699c21d6d1ae_1374x963.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KH9q!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9c119823-97af-45e2-8bc6-699c21d6d1ae_1374x963.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>You know she found a way to bring this up in conversation with Superman after this adventure was over. (Image, DC Comics)</em></figcaption></figure></div><p><span>Anyway, I don&#8217;t want to spoil any more of the comic. You should </span><strong><span>absolutely </span></strong><span>read it. Not making any sweeping judgments here, but in about 99% of cases, the book is better than the movie. This is one of those cases. Plus, it has a super-horse. </span></p><p><span>Now... let&#8217;s talk about the science.</span></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/p/why-green-stars-dont-exist-and-why?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.thescienceof.org/p/why-green-stars-dont-exist-and-why?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p><h1><span>STAR STORIES</span></h1><p><span>Before we get into colors, making the planet part of a binary system with a yellow sun was an odd (clearly she was going to get her powers back), but nice touch &#8212; it&#8217;s estimated that around half of all Sun-like stars in the Milky Way are </span><a href="https://science.nasa.gov/universe/stars/multiple-star-systems/"><span>part of a system with two or more stars</span></a><span>. A planet with two suns isn&#8217;t the weird part. In fact, astronomers have discovered planets orbiting binary stars. Nature builds those all the time.</span></p><p><span>But&#8212;making one green and one yellow?  That&#8217;s the weird stuff.</span></p><p><span>Aside from the whole &#8220;green stars don&#8217;t exist&#8221; thing (coming up, I promise), that&#8217;s also not how binary systems usually work. Stars form from massive clouds of interstellar gas and dust. In a binary system, both stars would form from the same original cloud.</span></p><p><span>Think of them as siblings. They start with the same raw materials, they&#8217;re roughly the same age, and they generally follow the same evolutionary path. Yes, there&#8217;s a slight chance that a single star could capture a rogue star that&#8217;s wandering through the galaxy, but it&#8217;s highly improbable due to the masses and velocities involved. And yes, someone could have </span><em><span>built </span></em><span>a second star and </span><em><span>engineered </span></em><span>both stellar and planetary orbits, but that&#8217;s less astrophysics and cosmology and more wizardry.</span></p><p><span>So, as a rule, stars in binary systems are roughly the same age and made from the same material.  Exceptions do exist, but on average, siblings, not strangers.</span></p><h1><span>WHY THERE AREN&#8217;T GREEN STARS</span></h1><p><em><strong><span>Disclaimer</span></strong><span>: Nothing in this article is meant to deny that the color green exists. Grass is green. Kermit the Frog is green. Kryptonite is green. Objects look green because they reflect green light while absorbing much of the rest.</span></em></p><p><span>Given the vastness of the universe and all the strange things we&#8217;ve discovered, saying there are no green stars sounds... yeah, I </span><em><span>know </span></em><span>how it sounds.</span></p><p><span>But there aren&#8217;t.</span></p><p><span>Let&#8217;s not talk about stars for a minute. You&#8217;re reading this on a screen, right? You&#8217;re probably looking at black text on a white background. Here&#8217;s the weird part: </span><strong><span>your screen doesn&#8217;t have any white pixels</span></strong><span>. If you looked at your screen through a microscope, you&#8217;d see millions of tiny red, green, and blue lights. Every white page you&#8217;ve ever read was really those three colors working together.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LQW4!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0b0d67cb-c982-4a22-a721-c4bae9f2d0d2_918x1260.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LQW4!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0b0d67cb-c982-4a22-a721-c4bae9f2d0d2_918x1260.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LQW4!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0b0d67cb-c982-4a22-a721-c4bae9f2d0d2_918x1260.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LQW4!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0b0d67cb-c982-4a22-a721-c4bae9f2d0d2_918x1260.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LQW4!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0b0d67cb-c982-4a22-a721-c4bae9f2d0d2_918x1260.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LQW4!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0b0d67cb-c982-4a22-a721-c4bae9f2d0d2_918x1260.jpeg" width="388" height="532.5490196078431" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/0b0d67cb-c982-4a22-a721-c4bae9f2d0d2_918x1260.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1260,&quot;width&quot;:918,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:388,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LQW4!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0b0d67cb-c982-4a22-a721-c4bae9f2d0d2_918x1260.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LQW4!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0b0d67cb-c982-4a22-a721-c4bae9f2d0d2_918x1260.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LQW4!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0b0d67cb-c982-4a22-a721-c4bae9f2d0d2_918x1260.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LQW4!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0b0d67cb-c982-4a22-a721-c4bae9f2d0d2_918x1260.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>A microscopic view of a &#8220;white&#8221; portion of a screen. No white can be seen&#8230;</em></figcaption></figure></div><p><span>Seriously.</span></p><p><span>Every bit of whiteness on your screen is made up of three tiny red, green, and blue subpixels so close together that your eyes and brain can&#8217;t distinguish them individually. Turn all three on together, and your brain says, &#8220;Yep. That&#8217;s white.&#8221;</span></p><p><span>Your screen is fooling you millions of times per second.</span></p><blockquote><p><strong><span>Side note:</span></strong><span> </span><em><span>This is one of those &#8220;the universe is ridiculous&#8221; facts.</span></em><span> A single colored subpixel in a modern phone is only about </span><strong><span>10&#8211;20 micrometers</span></strong><span> across&#8212;just a bit bigger than a red blood cell. Your phone&#8217;s display contains </span><strong><span>millions of pixels</span></strong><span>, which means it&#8217;s coordinating </span><strong><span>nearly ten million microscopic colored light sources</span></strong><span> to convince your brain you&#8217;re looking at a plain white page.</span></p></blockquote><p><span>Let&#8217;s bring this in super close &#8212; like eyeball close &#8212; to explain what we&#8217;re talking about. Your eyes have three types of </span><strong><span>color-sensitive cone cells</span></strong><span>&#8212;one that responds mostly to red light, one to green, and one to blue. When all three are getting a strong signal at the same time, say, from a star, your brain doesn&#8217;t conclude &#8220;That&#8217;s green.&#8221;</span></p><p><span>It decides: &#8220;That&#8217;s white.&#8221;</span></p><p><span>It&#8217;s the same reason your tablet doesn&#8217;t need white LEDs to show a white page. Your visual system isn&#8217;t looking for a &#8220;white wavelength.&#8221; It&#8217;s looking at how strongly its three color sensors are responding.</span></p><p><span>Stars work in much the same way. A star isn&#8217;t like a green laser pointer. The light from a star is like the music produced by an orchestra rather than by a solo violin. Some colors are &#8220;louder&#8221; than others, but all of them are in there.</span></p><p><span>To keep going with the orchestra idea, cool stars play mostly &#8220;red.&#8221; Hotter stars play &#8220;blue,&#8221; and stars like our Sun hit a balance across the entire spectrum to produce a whitish light.</span></p><blockquote><p><span>Side note: </span><em><span>But Superman and Supergirl get their powers from Earth&#8217;s &#8220;yellow sun.&#8221;</span></em><span> Technically, our Sun is </span><em><span>white</span></em><span>; if sunlight weren&#8217;t basically white, a white sheet of paper wouldn&#8217;t look white outdoors, but it&#8217;s classified as a </span><strong><span>yellow dwarf star</span></strong><span>. From space, it&#8217;s white, but from Earth&#8217;s surface (as seen through our atmosphere), blue and violet light are scattered much more strongly than the longer wavelengths, giving the Sun a slightly warmer, yellowish appearance.</span></p></blockquote><p><span>So, what about stars that might produce more green light than any other wavelength? Shouldn&#8217;t they look green?</span></p><p><span>Nope. Because that star would also be producing lots of red and blue light along with its green, and we&#8217;re back to where we started: white.</span></p><p><span>That isn&#8217;t an accident. It&#8217;s a consequence of the way hot objects emit light, known as </span><strong><a href="http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/mod6.html"><span>blackbody radiation</span></a></strong><span>. Something can be red-hot when it is hot enough that some of the energy being released appears as red visible light.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iVrE!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F60582b63-1ad3-43cb-92bb-326d047b09eb_1008x645.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iVrE!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F60582b63-1ad3-43cb-92bb-326d047b09eb_1008x645.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iVrE!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F60582b63-1ad3-43cb-92bb-326d047b09eb_1008x645.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iVrE!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F60582b63-1ad3-43cb-92bb-326d047b09eb_1008x645.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iVrE!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F60582b63-1ad3-43cb-92bb-326d047b09eb_1008x645.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iVrE!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F60582b63-1ad3-43cb-92bb-326d047b09eb_1008x645.jpeg" width="606" height="387.76785714285717" 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srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iVrE!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F60582b63-1ad3-43cb-92bb-326d047b09eb_1008x645.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iVrE!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F60582b63-1ad3-43cb-92bb-326d047b09eb_1008x645.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iVrE!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F60582b63-1ad3-43cb-92bb-326d047b09eb_1008x645.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iVrE!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F60582b63-1ad3-43cb-92bb-326d047b09eb_1008x645.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Our Sun is between 5,000 and 6,000 Kelvin in temperature, so its peak is in the blue-green section. Hotter and cooler stars have peaks in other regions. (Image, NASA)</em></figcaption></figure></div><p><span>Heat things more, and you can reach orange-hot or white-hot, but you can&#8217;t stop at green. Heat things more, and they don&#8217;t suddenly switch from red to green light. Instead, they keep producing red while adding more orange, yellow, green, blue, and beyond. The hotter the object gets, the whole spectrum shifts, but it never narrows down to a single color.  And in stars, there&#8217;s overreach, so stopping on green means you&#8217;re also hitting the temperature that produces blue as well.</span></p><p><span>Red-hot? Absolutely. White-hot? Definitely. Green-hot? Nature doesn&#8217;t really do that.</span></p><p><span>All of this means that a star can absolutely emit a tremendous amount of green light.</span></p><p><span>Ours does.</span></p><p><span>Here&#8217;s the twist: our own Sun actually produces </span><a href="https://www.snexplores.org/article/color-sun-light-green-yellow"><span>more light in the green part </span></a><span>of the visible spectrum than in any other single color.</span></p><p><span>It still doesn&#8217;t look green.</span></p><p><span>I know. That feels like I buried the lede.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KZb_!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F77ce62c2-ff49-4f3a-a7c0-139d34b7c17d_378x397.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KZb_!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F77ce62c2-ff49-4f3a-a7c0-139d34b7c17d_378x397.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KZb_!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F77ce62c2-ff49-4f3a-a7c0-139d34b7c17d_378x397.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KZb_!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F77ce62c2-ff49-4f3a-a7c0-139d34b7c17d_378x397.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KZb_!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F77ce62c2-ff49-4f3a-a7c0-139d34b7c17d_378x397.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KZb_!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F77ce62c2-ff49-4f3a-a7c0-139d34b7c17d_378x397.jpeg" width="378" height="397" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/77ce62c2-ff49-4f3a-a7c0-139d34b7c17d_378x397.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:397,&quot;width&quot;:378,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KZb_!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F77ce62c2-ff49-4f3a-a7c0-139d34b7c17d_378x397.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KZb_!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F77ce62c2-ff49-4f3a-a7c0-139d34b7c17d_378x397.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KZb_!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F77ce62c2-ff49-4f3a-a7c0-139d34b7c17d_378x397.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KZb_!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F77ce62c2-ff49-4f3a-a7c0-139d34b7c17d_378x397.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Again, the bulk of the light emitted by our sun falls in the blue-green region of the spectrum, but it also includes red and blue. So, white. </em></figcaption></figure></div><p><span>But stars can&#8217;t emit </span><em><span>only</span></em><span> green light. There&#8217;s no pathway for that to happen.</span></p><p><span>Stars are giant balls of hot gas, and hot objects naturally emit a broad spread of wavelengths, not a single narrow slice of color. There isn&#8217;t a temperature at which a star emits </span><em><span>only </span></em><span>green light.</span></p><blockquote><p><strong><span>Side note: </span></strong><span>&#8220;But I&#8217;ve seen green light in fire&#8230;&#8221; Sure have. That&#8217;s a completely different process. Stars shine because they&#8217;re incredibly hot, producing a broad spectrum of light across many wavelengths (that&#8217;s the blackbody radiation we just talked about). Green flames come from </span><strong><span>excited atoms</span></strong><span>. Heat an element enough, and some of its electrons jump to higher energy levels.</span></p><p><span>When those electrons fall back down, they release photons with very specific energies&#8212;and therefore very specific colors.  For example, sodium vapor produces a sickly yellow-orange light familiar from older streetlights, and copper, when heated, can produce green light. Those colors come from the atoms themselves, not from the overall temperature of the fire.</span></p><p><span>A star isn&#8217;t a giant copper flame - it&#8217;s a giant ball of hot gas radiating across the entire visible spectrum.</span></p></blockquote><p><span>To make a star look green, you&#8217;d have to remove most of its red and blue light before it reached your eyes.</span></p><p><span>At that point, the star isn&#8217;t actually green.</span></p><p><span>Something else is making it look that way.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-7Bd!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F142847c5-6f1e-46c7-ae7f-10a1f6455df7_720x720.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Ruthye waits for Kara to wake in the film version of the story. (Image, DC Studios)</em></figcaption></figure></div><h1><span>COULD A STAR ACTUALLY LOOK GREEN?</span></h1><p><span>Yes. Sort of.</span></p><p><span>But only under very specific circumstances. Let&#8217;s look at three: one that&#8217;s real, one that&#8217;s probably not, and one that borders on wizardry.</span></p><ol><li><p><strong><span>When viewed through specific atmospheric conditions.</span></strong><span> The Sun sends a tremendous amount of energy toward Earth, but our atmosphere acts like a bouncer at a club. Some wavelengths are absorbed before they ever reach the ground; others are scattered in different directions, while visible light mostly makes it through. <br><br>It&#8217;s why the Sun can look different depending on where you&#8217;re looking at it from. In space, it&#8217;s white. At noon, it looks bright yellow-white because there&#8217;s not a lot of atmosphere between you and it. Compare that to mornings or evenings, when you&#8217;re seeing the sunrise or sunset, and the amount of atmosphere you&#8217;re looking through to see the Sun is considerably thicker. The more atmosphere sunlight has to travel through, the more opportunities there are for that light to be scattered, absorbed, or bent. <br><br>Could a planet have a weird atmosphere that could remove incoming red and blue light from a white star, leaving mostly green? Sure. It&#8217;s a big universe. But - if the Sun looks green, </span><strong><span>everything </span></strong><span>illuminated by it would probably look strange, too. Anything green would look green. White objects would look green</span>; red things would look dark or black (with <span>no red light to reflect), while yellow things would look green. It would be a very strange world. <br><br></span><strong><span>Side note:</span></strong><span> &#8220;Wait... what about the green flash?&#8221;  That&#8217;s real, too. Under just the right conditions at sunrise or sunset, the upper edge of the Sun can briefly flash green for a second or two. It&#8217;s caused by Earth&#8217;s atmosphere bending (refracting) different colors of light by slightly different amounts, while also scattering blue light more strongly than the others. For a brief moment, the green portion of the Sun&#8217;s light reaches your eyes just before the rest of the Sun disappears below the horizon. The Sun hasn&#8217;t suddenly turned green&#8212;our atmosphere has briefly played a neat optical trick on us. It&#8217;s one more example of an ordinary star appearing green without actually being green. <br></span></p></li><li><p><strong><span>Better eyes?</span></strong><span> Mantis shrimp have </span><a href="https://phys.org/news/2013-09-mantis-shrimp-world-eyesbut.html"><span>up to 16 kinds of photoreceptors</span></a><span> compared to our three, giving them a visual system very different from ours. What if we&#8217;re saying &#8220;there are no green stars&#8221; because our eyes don&#8217;t see green stars as they really are? </span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gyYh!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc91e25f9-9364-497a-b5eb-79087f15e638_754x702.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gyYh!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc91e25f9-9364-497a-b5eb-79087f15e638_754x702.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gyYh!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc91e25f9-9364-497a-b5eb-79087f15e638_754x702.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gyYh!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc91e25f9-9364-497a-b5eb-79087f15e638_754x702.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gyYh!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc91e25f9-9364-497a-b5eb-79087f15e638_754x702.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gyYh!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc91e25f9-9364-497a-b5eb-79087f15e638_754x702.jpeg" width="476" height="443.17241379310343" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/c91e25f9-9364-497a-b5eb-79087f15e638_754x702.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:702,&quot;width&quot;:754,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:476,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gyYh!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc91e25f9-9364-497a-b5eb-79087f15e638_754x702.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gyYh!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc91e25f9-9364-497a-b5eb-79087f15e638_754x702.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gyYh!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc91e25f9-9364-497a-b5eb-79087f15e638_754x702.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gyYh!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc91e25f9-9364-497a-b5eb-79087f15e638_754x702.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>The black regions of the eye are the parts looking at the camera. (Image, <a href="https://www.michaelbok.com/">Michael Bok</a>)</em></figcaption></figure></div><p><span>Let&#8217;s take our space-faring mantis shrimp. Hold it up, show it to the sun, and ask what color it is; it would not say it was green, green-white, or greenish, despite the Sun emitting more green light than any other color. The mantis shrimp would almost certainly distinguish subtler differences between stars than we can, but a Sun-like spectrum is still a broad spectrum. Better eyes don&#8217;t change the physics of what the star is emitting.<br><br>And also, sixteen photoreceptors sounds like mantis shrimp would have super color vision. Weirdly... they probably don&#8217;t. Probably just different, not better. <br></span></p></li><li><p><strong><span>A giant filter.</span></strong><span> Your best bet, but highly unlikely, is to put something between the observer and the star that would make it appear green. You wouldn&#8217;t build a green star&#8212;you&#8217;d build a green view of an ordinary star. If your star is white, put a giant green filter in front of it, something like a green </span><a href="https://www.skyatnightmagazine.com/space-science/dyson-sphere"><span>Dyson sphere</span></a><span>. An enormous cloud of nanoparticles. A bespoke planetary atmosphere designed to absorb red and blue. You know, </span><em><span>easy </span></em><span>stuff. <br><br>But at that point, you haven&#8217;t made a green star at all. You&#8217;ve made a perfectly ordinary star wearing green sunglasses.</span></p></li></ol><p><span>Which brings us right back where we started. Green stars don&#8217;t exist. But under the right conditions, perfectly ordinary stars can do a very convincing impression of one.</span></p><p><span>Oh, and to give that final answer, why does Supergirl keep finding them? I can only imagine the storytelling, the mythology. She and Superman are god-like, but there are planets out there where they can die just because the sun shines on them. And Kara&#8217;s reveal from </span><strong><span>Woman of Tomorrow</span></strong><span>? That someone made a green star as a trap for Superman? Nice - it speaks to the efforts and resources going into stopping Superman (and Supergirl) and all that they stand for. I like the idea a lot. All of this? Explaining that green stars can&#8217;t exist? Didn&#8217;t take away any of my enjoyment of the graphic novel or the movie. If you ever find yourself in a place like this, remember, you never yuck someone else&#8217;s yum. </span></p><p><em><strong>Curiosity is what brought me here.</strong></em></p><p><em><strong>Teaching is what I do with it.</strong></em></p><p><em><strong><span>If you&#8217;d like to read more about education, classrooms, students, and the craft of teaching, you&#8217;ll find those stories in </span><a href="https://bradyteach.substack.com/">Teacher, Teacher</a><span>.</span></strong></em></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Big Bang vs. Big Bounce: The Science of Galactus' Origin]]></title><description><![CDATA[Marvel's Devourer of Worlds wasn't born from pure imagination. Lee and Kirby built his origin on one of the biggest ideas in twentieth-century cosmology. Sixty years later, what does the evidence say?]]></description><link>https://www.thescienceof.org/p/science-behind-galactus-origin</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.thescienceof.org/p/science-behind-galactus-origin</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt Brady]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2026 17:04:08 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DUhV!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa31ee272-1aad-4ac7-bf1d-257c0b3c6e1f_1200x675.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Artifact Recovered: original publication date: 8/16/22</em></p><p><em>This piece was originally published on a previous version of The Science Of and has been recovered from the digital strata. Its lightly edited version is represented here because it&#8217;s useful, weird, fascinating, updated, or some combination of the four.</em></p><h2><strong><span>Galactus.</span></strong></h2><p><span>The fact that you read that name and don&#8217;t get a knot in your stomach is one reason you know you&#8217;re living in &#8220;our&#8221; universe rather than the Marvel Universe.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DUhV!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa31ee272-1aad-4ac7-bf1d-257c0b3c6e1f_1200x675.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DUhV!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa31ee272-1aad-4ac7-bf1d-257c0b3c6e1f_1200x675.jpeg" width="1200" height="675" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/a31ee272-1aad-4ac7-bf1d-257c0b3c6e1f_1200x675.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:675,&quot;width&quot;:1200,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:278911,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;illustration of Galactus, the towering cosmic being in blue and purple armor, reaching forward against a star-filled space background.&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:true,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/i/204296931?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa31ee272-1aad-4ac7-bf1d-257c0b3c6e1f_1200x675.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="illustration of Galactus, the towering cosmic being in blue and purple armor, reaching forward against a star-filled space background." title="illustration of Galactus, the towering cosmic being in blue and purple armor, reaching forward against a star-filled space background." srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DUhV!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa31ee272-1aad-4ac7-bf1d-257c0b3c6e1f_1200x675.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DUhV!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa31ee272-1aad-4ac7-bf1d-257c0b3c6e1f_1200x675.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DUhV!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa31ee272-1aad-4ac7-bf1d-257c0b3c6e1f_1200x675.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DUhV!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa31ee272-1aad-4ac7-bf1d-257c0b3c6e1f_1200x675.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Galactus, more towards his movie version from Fantastic 4: First Steps (image: Disney/Marvel)</em></figcaption></figure></div><p><span>The other way you know you&#8217;re not living in the Marvel Universe?</span></p><p><em><span>Our </span></em><span>universe. Literally. It doesn&#8217;t fit the big guy&#8217;s origin story.</span></p><p><span>Let&#8217;s make sure we&#8217;re all up to speed here.</span></p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">But first - want to see more like this? Well, subscribe for free to receive new posts and support my work!</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><h1><strong><span>GALACTUS 101</span></strong></h1><p><span>First appearing in </span><strong><span>Fantastic Four #48</span></strong><span> (1966, by Stan Lee and Jack Kirby), Galactus has been a constant in the Marvel Universe for nearly 60 years. But Galactus wasn&#8217;t born in the &#8220;current&#8221; Marvel Universe. Instead, as his origin explains, Galen of Taa comes from the universe that preceded ours.</span></p><blockquote><p><strong><span>Side Note</span></strong><span>: </span><em><span>A little bit of Marvel Universe 101: the current Marvel Universe is the &#8220;Eighth Cosmos,&#8221; or the eighth iteration of reality. The present cosmos is a nearly identical copy of the Seventh Cosmos, which was destroyed at the start of </span><strong><span>Secret Wars</span></strong><span> (2015). In 2021&#8217;s </span><strong><span>Defenders </span></strong><span>limited series, creators Al Ewing and Javier Rodriguez took a disparate group of heroes backward through the previous Cosmoses to stop at the Third before ending their adventure. Each previous Cosmos was more primal and more&#8230;trippy. Nevertheless, it was a great story, and its sequel, </span><strong><span>Defenders Beyond</span></strong><span>, explains the Second Cosmos and beyond.</span></em></p></blockquote><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!L9CQ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fefb531cf-c32d-45d0-b3fe-8379c79f08dd_1432x2048.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!L9CQ!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fefb531cf-c32d-45d0-b3fe-8379c79f08dd_1432x2048.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!L9CQ!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fefb531cf-c32d-45d0-b3fe-8379c79f08dd_1432x2048.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!L9CQ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fefb531cf-c32d-45d0-b3fe-8379c79f08dd_1432x2048.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!L9CQ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fefb531cf-c32d-45d0-b3fe-8379c79f08dd_1432x2048.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!L9CQ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fefb531cf-c32d-45d0-b3fe-8379c79f08dd_1432x2048.jpeg" width="1432" height="2048" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/efb531cf-c32d-45d0-b3fe-8379c79f08dd_1432x2048.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:2048,&quot;width&quot;:1432,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Comic panel depicting Galen of Taa merging with the Sentience of the Universe inside a brilliant cosmic energy field, foreshadowing his rebirth as Galactus in the next universe.&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Comic panel depicting Galen of Taa merging with the Sentience of the Universe inside a brilliant cosmic energy field, foreshadowing his rebirth as Galactus in the next universe." title="Comic panel depicting Galen of Taa merging with the Sentience of the Universe inside a brilliant cosmic energy field, foreshadowing his rebirth as Galactus in the next universe." srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!L9CQ!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fefb531cf-c32d-45d0-b3fe-8379c79f08dd_1432x2048.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!L9CQ!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fefb531cf-c32d-45d0-b3fe-8379c79f08dd_1432x2048.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!L9CQ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fefb531cf-c32d-45d0-b3fe-8379c79f08dd_1432x2048.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!L9CQ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fefb531cf-c32d-45d0-b3fe-8379c79f08dd_1432x2048.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 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While seeking answers in space, Galen and his ship are pulled into what seems to be a Big Crunch, the theoretical opposite of the Big Bang. &#8220;Inside&#8221; the Crunch, Galen bonds with the Sentience of the Universe and survives. As a result, Galan has VIP seating for the Big Bang that starts the Marvel Universe (the Eighth Cosmos). With some aiding and abetting by the Watcher, Galen gestated inside an &#8220;egg&#8221; made from the remains of his ship for a few billion years, finally debuting as Galactus. From there, he started eating planets.</span></p><p><span>And running afoul of Earth&#8217;s superheroes.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ddY8!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3d85600b-7004-4bc7-8038-443a34d6b96e_1335x2048.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ddY8!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3d85600b-7004-4bc7-8038-443a34d6b96e_1335x2048.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ddY8!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3d85600b-7004-4bc7-8038-443a34d6b96e_1335x2048.jpeg 848w, 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data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/3d85600b-7004-4bc7-8038-443a34d6b96e_1335x2048.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:2048,&quot;width&quot;:1335,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:544,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Cover of Fantastic Four #49, featuring Galactus towering over the Fantastic Four as the Silver Surfer flies past, with the cover title \&quot;If This Be Doomsday!\&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Cover of Fantastic Four #49, featuring Galactus towering over the Fantastic Four as the Silver Surfer flies past, with the cover title &quot;If This Be Doomsday!&quot;" title="Cover of Fantastic Four #49, featuring Galactus towering over the Fantastic Four as the Silver Surfer flies past, with the cover title &quot;If This Be Doomsday!&quot;" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ddY8!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3d85600b-7004-4bc7-8038-443a34d6b96e_1335x2048.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ddY8!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3d85600b-7004-4bc7-8038-443a34d6b96e_1335x2048.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ddY8!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3d85600b-7004-4bc7-8038-443a34d6b96e_1335x2048.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ddY8!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3d85600b-7004-4bc7-8038-443a34d6b96e_1335x2048.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>The start of Galactus&#8217; interactions with the FF - over the decades, the fear and animosity have turned into a respect for the other (Image - Marvel)</em></figcaption></figure></div><p><span>There&#8217;s more to Galactus&#8217; story, but that&#8217;s for another day. Let&#8217;s put on our cosmologist hats.</span></p><p><span>Galactus&#8217; story involves a specific cosmology model we don&#8217;t see in our universe. For over 50 years, data have suggested that our universe started with a &#8220;hot&#8221; Big Bang. The Big Bang was followed by Cosmic Inflation. Since then, the universe has expanded and cooled.</span></p><p><span>In Galactus&#8217; cosmos, reality is cyclic. A Big Bang. Billions of years of expansion. Then expansion slows, stops, and reverses. Eventually, all matter and energy fall back together faster and faster, resulting in a singularity. That singularity is the point from which the &#8220;Big Bang&#8221; kickstarts the next universe. And the cycle repeats.</span></p><p><span>A cyclic cosmos has all kinds of implications&#8212;enough for its own article&#8212;but our observations point somewhere else. But as our understanding of such things stands, ours is </span><em><span>not </span></em><span>a cyclic universe. And it all comes down to the evidence.</span></p><p><span>We have overwhelming evidence for the hot Big Bang and strong evidence supporting Cosmic Inflation.</span></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/p/science-behind-galactus-origin?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.thescienceof.org/p/science-behind-galactus-origin?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p><h2><strong><span>THE BIG BANG.</span></strong></h2><p><span>Since Edwin Hubble&#8217;s work in 1929, we&#8217;ve known space is expanding. His observations showed that distant galaxies are </span><em><span>redshifted</span></em><span>. That is, they&#8217;re moving away from us. The light from galaxies moving away from us is &#8220;stretched&#8221; slightly, which pushes it towards the red end of the visible spectrum.</span></p><p><span>This stretching and changing what we experience is the same Doppler Effect you hear when an ambulance goes by - as it comes toward you, the siren is higher pitched, but as it moves away from you, it&#8217;s lower pitched. The waves stretch as the ambulance moves away, and your ear experiences fewer of them per time (frequency). Lower frequency means lower pitch.</span></p><p><span>Light behaves the same way.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!etaL!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7efcf259-1f93-4fb4-8649-135503e3af47_1751x258.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!etaL!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7efcf259-1f93-4fb4-8649-135503e3af47_1751x258.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!etaL!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7efcf259-1f93-4fb4-8649-135503e3af47_1751x258.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!etaL!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7efcf259-1f93-4fb4-8649-135503e3af47_1751x258.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!etaL!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7efcf259-1f93-4fb4-8649-135503e3af47_1751x258.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!etaL!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7efcf259-1f93-4fb4-8649-135503e3af47_1751x258.jpeg" width="1456" height="215" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/7efcf259-1f93-4fb4-8649-135503e3af47_1751x258.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:215,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Diagram of the visible-light portion of the electromagnetic spectrum, showing wavelengths from 700 to 400 nanometers, from red through violet, with wavelength decreasing across the spectrum.&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Diagram of the visible-light portion of the electromagnetic spectrum, showing wavelengths from 700 to 400 nanometers, from red through violet, with wavelength decreasing across the spectrum." title="Diagram of the visible-light portion of the electromagnetic spectrum, showing wavelengths from 700 to 400 nanometers, from red through violet, with wavelength decreasing across the spectrum." srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!etaL!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7efcf259-1f93-4fb4-8649-135503e3af47_1751x258.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!etaL!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7efcf259-1f93-4fb4-8649-135503e3af47_1751x258.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!etaL!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7efcf259-1f93-4fb4-8649-135503e3af47_1751x258.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!etaL!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7efcf259-1f93-4fb4-8649-135503e3af47_1751x258.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"> <em>Visible light - longer wavelength, more red as the wave is &#8220;stretched&#8221; out. Image - NASA</em></figcaption></figure></div><p><span>In the late 1990s, astronomers studying distant Type Ia supernovae discovered something unexpected: the universe wasn&#8217;t just expanding. Its expansion was speeding up. Later observations with the Hubble Space Telescope and other observatories confirmed the picture.</span></p><p><span>The universe was expanding, and the rate of acceleration was increasing. By the time you&#8217;re done reading this article, galaxies moving away from us will be moving faster than when you started reading it.</span></p><blockquote><p><strong><span>Side note</span></strong><span>: stars and galaxies aren&#8217;t moving away from &#8220;us,&#8221; specifically. Everything is moving away from everything. Space itself is expanding. The light traveling through space has to travel through more space - same light, larger volume, the wavelength stretches.</span></p></blockquote><blockquote><p><strong><span>Another side note</span></strong><span>: the galaxies near ours aren&#8217;t moving away from us. While gravity holds the stars of the Milky Way, Andromeda (home of the Skrulls in the Marvel Universe), and a bunch of smaller nearby galaxies together, it also holds our local group together. So we all move together more or less as a unit.</span></p></blockquote><p><span>While you can run the expansion information forward in time to a far future of cold, dark skies and the death of the universe, we want to run it </span><em><span>backward</span></em><span>.</span></p><p><span>Wind back the clock on an expanding universe, and you end up with a smaller and smaller universe, &#8220;ending&#8221; (er, beginning) with the universe in an unimaginably hot, dense state roughly 13.8 billion years ago.</span></p><p><span>Earlier than that, our current physics starts to break down. We don&#8217;t yet know what, if anything, came &#8220;before.&#8221; But the energy of that early universe wasn&#8217;t an even, flat, calm pool. There were fluctuations - quantum ripples. Imperfections. For some reason, one of the fluctuations expanded. Fast. Everything, even the fluctuations, spread quickly. Space itself expanded faster than light. Cosmic Inflation.</span></p><p><span>In a super-simple version: the universe cooled, and energy produced matter and antimatter that would eventually make up today&#8217;s universe. Then, over a period of time, matter, pulled together by gravity, begins to clump along the former fluctuations &#8212; which also stretched. Give it more time, and enough matter collects, falls in on itself, and ignites, birthing the universe&#8217;s first stars. In areas with a lot of matter, galaxies form. Let that clock run forward about nine billion years, and a collection of gas and dust in a rather ordinary galaxy gets busy making a sun and a solar system. We call that spot home.</span></p><p><span>This all sounds like a cool story &#8212; </span><em><span>conveniently </span></em><span>cool to some &#8212; but with the 2009 launch of the</span><a href="https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/planck"><span> Planck Telescope</span></a><span>, the story got a lot more real.</span></p><p><span>Planck looked at the universe over and over, examining the temperature and its variations. The idea was simple &#8212; if the universe were once a small, hot clump of matter that expanded quickly to form what we see today, that heat would still be around. Not as what we think of as &#8220;heat,&#8221; but energy. Ancient energy that&#8217;s cooled and cooled. Think of it as being able to tell that your stove </span><em><span>was</span></em><span> on by looking at the burners with a thermal camera. The burners are no longer red (visible light), but you can still see some energy (infrared - &#8220;heat&#8221;).</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Wvyx!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F652122b8-d854-43bc-9c54-7a027c4a622f_2048x1150.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Wvyx!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F652122b8-d854-43bc-9c54-7a027c4a622f_2048x1150.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Wvyx!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F652122b8-d854-43bc-9c54-7a027c4a622f_2048x1150.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Wvyx!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F652122b8-d854-43bc-9c54-7a027c4a622f_2048x1150.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Wvyx!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F652122b8-d854-43bc-9c54-7a027c4a622f_2048x1150.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Wvyx!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F652122b8-d854-43bc-9c54-7a027c4a622f_2048x1150.jpeg" width="1456" height="818" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/652122b8-d854-43bc-9c54-7a027c4a622f_2048x1150.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:818,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Diagram of the electromagnetic spectrum, showing radio waves through gamma rays, with visible light highlighted and common technologies associated with each region of the spectrum.&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Diagram of the electromagnetic spectrum, showing radio waves through gamma rays, with visible light highlighted and common technologies associated with each region of the spectrum." title="Diagram of the electromagnetic spectrum, showing radio waves through gamma rays, with visible light highlighted and common technologies associated with each region of the spectrum." srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Wvyx!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F652122b8-d854-43bc-9c54-7a027c4a622f_2048x1150.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Wvyx!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F652122b8-d854-43bc-9c54-7a027c4a622f_2048x1150.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Wvyx!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F652122b8-d854-43bc-9c54-7a027c4a622f_2048x1150.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Wvyx!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F652122b8-d854-43bc-9c54-7a027c4a622f_2048x1150.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>The electromagnetic spectrum - microwave is on the left Image - NASA</em></figcaption></figure></div><p><span>Planck&#8217;s image complemented and refined the &#8220;WMAP&#8221; image from NASA&#8217;s Wilkinson Microwave Anisotropy Probe, which had been collecting similar data since 2001.</span></p><p><span>In glorious detail, the image from Planck shows the</span><a href="https://thescienceof.org/wandavision-and-the-cmbr/"><span> cosmic microwave background radiation (CMBR)</span></a><span>. The heat of the early universe has cooled to the point that it&#8217;s not &#8220;heat&#8221; as we think of it but a form of energy with longer wavelengths and a lower frequency - microwaves.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YMrK!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b7e8851-6c98-48fd-a453-0d4d798a274c_2048x1024.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YMrK!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b7e8851-6c98-48fd-a453-0d4d798a274c_2048x1024.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YMrK!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b7e8851-6c98-48fd-a453-0d4d798a274c_2048x1024.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YMrK!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b7e8851-6c98-48fd-a453-0d4d798a274c_2048x1024.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YMrK!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b7e8851-6c98-48fd-a453-0d4d798a274c_2048x1024.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YMrK!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b7e8851-6c98-48fd-a453-0d4d798a274c_2048x1024.jpeg" width="1456" height="728" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/6b7e8851-6c98-48fd-a453-0d4d798a274c_2048x1024.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:728,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YMrK!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b7e8851-6c98-48fd-a453-0d4d798a274c_2048x1024.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YMrK!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b7e8851-6c98-48fd-a453-0d4d798a274c_2048x1024.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YMrK!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b7e8851-6c98-48fd-a453-0d4d798a274c_2048x1024.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YMrK!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b7e8851-6c98-48fd-a453-0d4d798a274c_2048x1024.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Planck&#8217;s image of the Cosmic Microwave Background Radiation Image - ESA</em></figcaption></figure></div><p><span>The image often throws viewers because of its oval shape. In reality, the CMBR image is a 360-degree view of the entire universe from Planck&#8217;s point of view. And to fully grasp the idea, think of it in 3D. You&#8217;re viewing it, but also, you&#8217;re </span><em><span>in</span></em><span> it.</span></p><p><span>Take a minute if you need to.</span></p><p><span>The image&#8217;s color variations show tiny temperature differences - places where the universe is just a little &#8220;warmer&#8221; or &#8220;cooler.&#8221; Those tiny temperature variations are essentially snapshots of quantum fluctuations that were stretched to cosmic scales during Inflation. Moreover, the fluctuations in the CMBR coincide with regions where we see the largest collections of matter in the universe.</span></p><p><span>Cosmic Inflation is a model to predict what the universe </span><em><span>should</span></em><span> be like. Observations have matched the model.</span></p><p><span>Long story short, that&#8217;s how we know the hot Big Bang happened and why Inflation fits the evidence so well. And given that the universe&#8217;s expansion is speeding up, the evidence points to the theory that everything will keep expanding, ultimately cooling and dying. That&#8217;s the heat death of the universe.</span></p><p><span>Some versions of Inflation naturally allow for a multiverse (more on that in another article).</span></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.thescienceof.org/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><h2><strong><span>OTHER CONTENDERS</span></strong></h2><p><span>Given the evidence that has accumulated over the years, our universe doesn&#8217;t appear to support Galactus&#8217;s origin. For that, you&#8217;d need an alternate theory. There are three main contenders, two of which could theoretically support Galactus: Big Bounce and Conformal Cyclic Cosmology.</span></p><p><span>Both theories are born of their proponents&#8217; dissatisfaction with Cosmic Inflation and claim to offer a </span><em><span>more straightforward </span></em><span>explanation of the Big Bang and the universe&#8217;s history. Your mileage may vary, of course.</span></p><p><span>Of the two, the Big Bounce is the simplest to understand. After an indeterminate period of expansion, the universe begins to contract - the Big Crunch mentioned earlier. Everything collects into a super-hot, super-dense point. From there, the universe would &#8220;bounce&#8221; in a Big Bang.</span></p><p><span>The Big Bounce theory suggests that time has no beginning and no end. Our perception of all reality is just </span><em><span>this</span></em><span> period, in </span><em><span>this </span></em><span>particular cosmos. Ultimately, it will collapse, starting another, and this cycle will happen forever. Literally forever.</span></p><p><span>Putting Galactus into this model is easy &#8212; the &#8220;Seventh Cosmos&#8221; of the Marvel Universe was just the universe before ours that collapsed. The Eighth is just the new universe after the bounce.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2kc4!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5433e0c3-ec92-4be3-acf8-bb2dd6bebce3_1536x1024.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2kc4!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5433e0c3-ec92-4be3-acf8-bb2dd6bebce3_1536x1024.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2kc4!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5433e0c3-ec92-4be3-acf8-bb2dd6bebce3_1536x1024.png 848w, 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data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/5433e0c3-ec92-4be3-acf8-bb2dd6bebce3_1536x1024.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:971,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Whiteboard-style infographic illustrating the Big Bounce model, showing the universe expanding, contracting into a Big Crunch, and rebounding in a new Big Bang as part of an endless cosmic cycle with no beginning or end.&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Whiteboard-style infographic illustrating the Big Bounce model, showing the universe expanding, contracting into a Big Crunch, and rebounding in a 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AI-generated)</em></figcaption></figure></div><p><span>The other idea that supports Galactus, Conformal Cyclic Cosmology (CCC), follows a similar theme but differs slightly.</span></p><p><span>First suggested and promoted by Nobel Laureate </span><a href="https://royalsociety.org/people/roger-penrose-12076/"><span>Roger Penrose</span></a><span> in his 2010 book, </span><em><span>Cycles of Time: An Extraordinary New View of the Universe</span></em><span>, the idea is a deep dive into cosmology and quantum mechanics, but it does have some relatively easy-to-grasp (but still weird) main points.</span></p><p><span>The history of the cosmos breaks into what Penrose calls &#8220;eons&#8221; - marked by a Big Bang and then expansion. At some point, the universe will expand to its maximum size, cooling as it does. Along the way, most remaining matter ultimately ends up in black holes. The black holes will continue to cool and slowly evaporate via Hawking Radiation.</span></p><p><span>Except for photons. This makes a cold, dead universe look like the Big Bang model. A new Big Bang will kick up from this state, starting another of Penrose&#8217;s eons.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iJWK!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F12755a7a-0406-49a8-890a-73a6ea4045ab_1536x1024.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iJWK!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F12755a7a-0406-49a8-890a-73a6ea4045ab_1536x1024.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iJWK!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F12755a7a-0406-49a8-890a-73a6ea4045ab_1536x1024.png 848w, 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>(Image - AI-generated)</em></figcaption></figure></div><p><span>In CCC, Penrose explains, there would be &#8220;leftovers&#8221; of the universe previous to ours, observable in the CMBR, &#8220;bruises&#8221; in the CMBR left by the final evaporation of black holes during the last eon. Penrose calls these &#8220;Hawking Points.&#8221;</span></p><p><span>These signals - the Hawking Points - are where things get ugly. Working with researchers around the globe, Penrose insists they can be observed. However, many astrophysicists claim that Hawking Points can&#8217;t be seen in a standard interpretation of CMBR data. You can see Penrose&#8217;s &#8220;Hawking Points&#8221; if you look at the data while &#8212; metaphorically &#8212; squinting, cocking your head at a specific angle, and humming a middle C note while exhaling.</span></p><p><span>The more technical term is that Penrose&#8217;s results are based on an analysis of the data &#8220;in a scientifically unsound and illegitimate fashion,&#8221;</span><a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2020/10/08/no-roger-penrose-we-see-no-evidence-of-a-universe-before-the-big-bang/?sh=2bb95d167a0f"><span> according to astrophysicist Ethan Siegel</span></a><span>.</span></p><p><span>The third contender for the universe&#8217;s origin involves the creation of a &#8220;Mirror Universe,&#8221; and that&#8217;s something for another day.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bN5O!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa7b3e492-a919-42d9-b043-263ab44fd4a1_1200x630.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bN5O!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa7b3e492-a919-42d9-b043-263ab44fd4a1_1200x630.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bN5O!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa7b3e492-a919-42d9-b043-263ab44fd4a1_1200x630.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bN5O!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa7b3e492-a919-42d9-b043-263ab44fd4a1_1200x630.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bN5O!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa7b3e492-a919-42d9-b043-263ab44fd4a1_1200x630.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bN5O!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa7b3e492-a919-42d9-b043-263ab44fd4a1_1200x630.jpeg" width="1200" height="630" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/a7b3e492-a919-42d9-b043-263ab44fd4a1_1200x630.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:630,&quot;width&quot;:1200,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Close-up of Spock from the original Star Trek series, raising one eyebrow with a skeptical expression.&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Close-up of Spock from the original Star Trek series, raising one eyebrow with a skeptical expression." title="Close-up of Spock from the original Star Trek series, raising one eyebrow with a skeptical expression." srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bN5O!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa7b3e492-a919-42d9-b043-263ab44fd4a1_1200x630.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bN5O!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa7b3e492-a919-42d9-b043-263ab44fd4a1_1200x630.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bN5O!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa7b3e492-a919-42d9-b043-263ab44fd4a1_1200x630.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bN5O!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa7b3e492-a919-42d9-b043-263ab44fd4a1_1200x630.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 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Image: CBS/Viacom</em></figcaption></figure></div><h2><strong><span>BUT WHY GALACTUS AND THE BOUNCE?</span></strong></h2><p><span>Before we wrap up, let&#8217;s take a quick look at how Galactus came to be. According to Marvel lore, Jack Kirby wanted to create a villain above mortals&#8212;a godlike force of nature that couldn&#8217;t simply be punched into submission or reasoned with. Kirby drew the pages for the legendary Galactus Trilogy (</span><em><span>Fantastic Four</span></em><span> #48&#8211;50), and Lee put words to the images. Galactus didn&#8217;t receive a true origin until three years later, when the pair reunited for </span><em><span>The Mighty Thor</span></em><span> #168&#8211;169 (1969). There, they revealed Galen of Taa, the last survivor of a previous cosmos, reborn into the (current) Marvel Universe after surviving that reality&#8217;s Big Crunch.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DdDN!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8c96d921-8cd4-478b-a8de-f583aa4fc0a6_1344x2048.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DdDN!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8c96d921-8cd4-478b-a8de-f583aa4fc0a6_1344x2048.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DdDN!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8c96d921-8cd4-478b-a8de-f583aa4fc0a6_1344x2048.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DdDN!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8c96d921-8cd4-478b-a8de-f583aa4fc0a6_1344x2048.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DdDN!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8c96d921-8cd4-478b-a8de-f583aa4fc0a6_1344x2048.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DdDN!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8c96d921-8cd4-478b-a8de-f583aa4fc0a6_1344x2048.jpeg" width="526" height="801.5238095238095" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/8c96d921-8cd4-478b-a8de-f583aa4fc0a6_1344x2048.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:2048,&quot;width&quot;:1344,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:526,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Comic panel of Galactus emerging from a glowing incubation chamber, declaring, \&quot;My incubation period has ended!\&quot; as cosmic energy swirls around him.&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Comic panel of Galactus emerging from a glowing incubation chamber, declaring, &quot;My incubation period has ended!&quot; as cosmic energy swirls around him." title="Comic panel of Galactus emerging from a glowing incubation chamber, declaring, &quot;My incubation period has ended!&quot; as cosmic energy swirls around him." srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DdDN!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8c96d921-8cd4-478b-a8de-f583aa4fc0a6_1344x2048.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DdDN!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8c96d921-8cd4-478b-a8de-f583aa4fc0a6_1344x2048.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DdDN!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8c96d921-8cd4-478b-a8de-f583aa4fc0a6_1344x2048.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DdDN!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8c96d921-8cd4-478b-a8de-f583aa4fc0a6_1344x2048.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Galactus emerges from his coccoon/egg/trunk (Image - Marvel)</em></figcaption></figure></div><p><span>In telling Galactus&#8217; origin, Lee and Kirby were doing what they had done for years with characters like the Hulk and the X-Men: building superheroes from contemporary science. They weren&#8217;t trying to predict the future of cosmology. They were using one of the legitimate scientific ideas of their day to tell a bigger story.</span></p><p><span>For much of the twentieth century, an oscillating universe was a legitimate cosmological model. Scientists debated it alongside other competing ideas about the origin and fate of the cosmos.  Given Kirby&#8217;s curiosity and Lee&#8217;s appetite for current ideas, it&#8217;s not hard to imagine the concept finding its way into Marvel&#8217;s biggest cosmic character.</span></p><p><span>Today, the evidence points somewhere else. But Galactus&#8217; origin isn&#8217;t bad science&#8212;it&#8217;s a time capsule. It&#8217;s Lee and Kirby taking one of the biggest scientific questions anyone could ask and building a god out of it. That&#8217;s pretty wonderful.</span></p><h2><strong><span>NO GALACTUS NEED APPLY</span></strong></h2><p><span>The idea of a hot Big Bang followed by Cosmic Inflation has withstood challenges for years. Beyond that, research provides additional data supporting the theory. As evidence has piled up in favor of the idea, the hot Big Bang followed by Cosmic Inflation has moved from one of a field of contenders to explain our universe to the top of the stack, the spot from where future science will start. It&#8217;s the best model we have, the one that the data supports.</span></p><p><span>Changing an accepted theory is simple: just bring the evidence. That&#8217;s all. Just show evidence that other researchers can view, independently reproduce, and reach the same conclusion.</span></p><p><span>There are still unanswered questions about the Big Bang. We&#8217;ll never be able to directly observe the Big Bang itself, no matter how good our tools are. The superheated plasma just after the Big Bang</span><a href="https://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/Astro/transp.html"><span> is opaque</span></a><span>. The best we can do is examine the universe&#8217;s evidence and develop theories that align with observations.</span></p><p><span>That&#8217;s how science works. Theories either solidify or change as new data comes to light. The data supports a hot Big Bang followed by Cosmic Inflation, without requiring earlier universes. We&#8217;re bound to learn more as we go, but in the end, all we can do is follow the universe&#8217;s lead.</span></p><p><span>And for our universe, that means no Galactus.</span></p><p><span>Sorry, big guy.</span></p><p><em><strong>Curiosity is what brought me here.</strong></em></p><p><em><strong>Teaching is what I do with it.</strong></em></p><p><em><strong><span>If you&#8217;d like to read more about education, classrooms, students, and the craft of teaching, you&#8217;ll find those stories in </span><a href="https://bradyteach.substack.com/">Teacher, Teacher</a><span>.</span></strong></em></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Why the Cat in Flow Still Looks Like a Cat]]></title><description><![CDATA[Why does the cat in Flow still look like...a cat?

Dogs and cats took completely different paths into our lives. One became our greatest engineering project. The other mostly hired itself.]]></description><link>https://www.thescienceof.org/p/why-the-cat-in-flow-still-looks-like</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.thescienceof.org/p/why-the-cat-in-flow-still-looks-like</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt Brady]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2026 15:46:36 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/f95825a0-e269-40f1-b1e6-75a86297c165_627x498.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em><span>Background: The following is a larger version of a talk given on 6/25/26 at the outdoor screening of the film, Flow. The showing was held at </span><a href="https://kaleideum.org/"><span>Kaleideum</span></a><span> in Winston-Salem as part of </span><a href="https://aperturecinema.com/"><span>a/perture Cinmea&#8217;s</span></a><span> </span><a href="https://aperturecinema.com/movies/flow-kaleideum/"><span>Science on Screen</span></a><span> film series. </span></em></p><p><em><span>If you haven&#8217;t seen Flow, you should; it&#8217;s wonderful. Trailer at the end of the article.</span></em></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lyoN!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F14fe1b55-400b-402a-95c4-a3a29ef4d9a2_627x947.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lyoN!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F14fe1b55-400b-402a-95c4-a3a29ef4d9a2_627x947.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lyoN!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F14fe1b55-400b-402a-95c4-a3a29ef4d9a2_627x947.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lyoN!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F14fe1b55-400b-402a-95c4-a3a29ef4d9a2_627x947.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lyoN!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F14fe1b55-400b-402a-95c4-a3a29ef4d9a2_627x947.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lyoN!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F14fe1b55-400b-402a-95c4-a3a29ef4d9a2_627x947.jpeg" width="627" height="947" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/14fe1b55-400b-402a-95c4-a3a29ef4d9a2_627x947.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:947,&quot;width&quot;:627,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:131725,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Movie poster for Flow featuring a wide-eyed black cat suspended underwater among dozens of colorful tropical fish. Soft blue light filters down from the surface, creating a dreamlike, surreal atmosphere. The title Flow appears in large white lettering at the bottom, with festival laurels and production credits below.&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:true,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/i/203604150?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F14fe1b55-400b-402a-95c4-a3a29ef4d9a2_627x947.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Movie poster for Flow featuring a wide-eyed black cat suspended underwater among dozens of colorful tropical fish. Soft blue light filters down from the surface, creating a dreamlike, surreal atmosphere. The title Flow appears in large white lettering at the bottom, with festival laurels and production credits below." title="Movie poster for Flow featuring a wide-eyed black cat suspended underwater among dozens of colorful tropical fish. Soft blue light filters down from the surface, creating a dreamlike, surreal atmosphere. The title Flow appears in large white lettering at the bottom, with festival laurels and production credits below." srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lyoN!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F14fe1b55-400b-402a-95c4-a3a29ef4d9a2_627x947.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lyoN!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F14fe1b55-400b-402a-95c4-a3a29ef4d9a2_627x947.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lyoN!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F14fe1b55-400b-402a-95c4-a3a29ef4d9a2_627x947.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lyoN!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F14fe1b55-400b-402a-95c4-a3a29ef4d9a2_627x947.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>That cat &#8212; no matter how many years in the future this is, that cat looks&#8230;just right. Flow movie poster. Image: Sideshow and Janus Films &#169; 2024</em></figcaption></figure></div><p><span>Cats and dogs are different.</span></p><p><span>I know, I know. But go with me here.</span></p><p><span>In the 2024 film </span><em><span>Flow</span></em><span>, we&#8217;re dropped into a post-apocalyptic world where all humans have vanished, apparently almost overnight. No bodies. No evidence of war or large-scale destruction. People are just...gone. This also isn&#8217;t Pixar or Disney. The animals don&#8217;t talk. In fact, there&#8217;s no dialogue at all.</span></p><p><span>Cities are crumbling, forests are reclaiming roads, and the water is rising.</span></p><p><span>And quietly moving through it all is...a cat. The unnamed cat doesn&#8217;t look futuristic. It isn&#8217;t mutated. It doesn&#8217;t have wings. It looks just like&#8230;</span><em><span>your</span></em><span> cat.</span></p><p><span>Yeah, but </span><em><span>should </span></em><span>it?</span></p><p><span>To answer that, we actually need to go back about 30,000 years.</span></p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Like reading out the intersection of pop culture and science? Sure you do! Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support my work.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><h1><strong><span>The Animal That Domesticated Itself</span></strong></h1><p><span>When we think about domesticated dogs and cats, we&#8217;re actually talking about two completely different evolutionary stories.</span></p><p><span>Our </span><a href="https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.aec3775"><span>domestication project with dogs</span></a><span> began somewhere between 30,000 and 40,000 years ago, when wolves started hanging around the camps of our hunter-gatherer ancestors. It worked because both species were after the same things: food and security. Over time, we began helping each other.</span></p><p><span>Over time, wolves with gentler dispositions (and eventually more puppy-like features) got more food and were allowed to stay closer to the fire. Better-fed, more secure wolves reproduced more successfully, and over generations, the traits that made them friendlier spread through the population. By roughly 15,000 years ago, dogs were established companions across much of Eurasia, and our domestication project really took off. Once dogs were part of human society, we began intentionally breeding them for specific jobs: protection, herding, hunting, sled pulling, and eventually companionship.</span></p><p><span>The results of that project are obvious today. Every dog, from a Chihuahua to a Great Dane, shares a common ancestor with the gray wolf. Even the one that snores and farts under the table while you&#8217;re watching a movie.</span></p><p><span>Cats? Their story is completely different.</span></p><p><span>Cats joined the human story a few thousand years after dogs. Wildcats were doing just fine on their own. They had no reason to seek us out, and they were understandably wary of humans. By the time dogs were firmly part of human society, our shift from hunting and gathering to agriculture accidentally created an opportunity that wildcats couldn&#8217;t ignore.</span></p><p><span>Part of agriculture involves storing grain; stored grain attracts rodents, and rodents attract wildcats. Circle of life.</span></p><p><span>We eventually shaped wolves into the dogs we needed. We never really set out to create cats. Biologists call this </span><strong><span>commensal domestication</span></strong><span>. Human settlements benefited the cats. Cats benefited humans.</span></p><p><span>In a very real sense, dogs became our invention. Over thousands of years, we shaped them into hunters, guardians, herders, sled pullers...and eventually, companions small enough to ride around in a designer handbag.</span></p><p><span>Cats chose to become our neighbors. We simply took care of the ones that didn&#8217;t immediately run away or try to maul us.</span></p><p><span>If you think about it, our relationship with them looks a lot like the workplace:</span></p><p><span>Dogs are employees; cats are contractors.</span></p><p><span>Both get paid, but only one of them pretends they don&#8217;t need the job.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0q60!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffefb0b0f-fc3e-42b7-a9f8-b85f9c1816f8_1536x1024.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0q60!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffefb0b0f-fc3e-42b7-a9f8-b85f9c1816f8_1536x1024.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0q60!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffefb0b0f-fc3e-42b7-a9f8-b85f9c1816f8_1536x1024.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0q60!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffefb0b0f-fc3e-42b7-a9f8-b85f9c1816f8_1536x1024.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0q60!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffefb0b0f-fc3e-42b7-a9f8-b85f9c1816f8_1536x1024.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0q60!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffefb0b0f-fc3e-42b7-a9f8-b85f9c1816f8_1536x1024.png" width="1456" height="971" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/fefb0b0f-fc3e-42b7-a9f8-b85f9c1816f8_1536x1024.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:971,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Hand-drawn whiteboard infographic comparing the domestication of dogs and cats. Dogs evolve from wolves into diverse breeds through selective breeding, while African wildcats change very little as they become modern house cats.&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Hand-drawn whiteboard infographic comparing the domestication of dogs and cats. Dogs evolve from wolves into diverse breeds through selective breeding, while African wildcats change very little as they become modern house cats." title="Hand-drawn whiteboard infographic comparing the domestication of dogs and cats. Dogs evolve from wolves into diverse breeds through selective breeding, while African wildcats change very little as they become modern house cats." srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0q60!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffefb0b0f-fc3e-42b7-a9f8-b85f9c1816f8_1536x1024.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0q60!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffefb0b0f-fc3e-42b7-a9f8-b85f9c1816f8_1536x1024.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0q60!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffefb0b0f-fc3e-42b7-a9f8-b85f9c1816f8_1536x1024.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0q60!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffefb0b0f-fc3e-42b7-a9f8-b85f9c1816f8_1536x1024.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>For our hunter-gatherer years, dogs were the best tools we could imagine, and we molded them to suit our needs. When we settled down and became farmers, we needed a new specialist. Image: AI</em></figcaption></figure></div><h1><strong><span>From Wolf to Pug, From Wildcat to&#8230;Cat.</span></strong></h1><p><span>All the dog breeds that populate the world today? Yeah, that&#8217;s on us.</span></p><p><span>As mentioned earlier, our intentions for cats were practical. We needed partners to help us hunt, herd livestock, guard our camps, and eventually even follow animals into burrows (looking at you, dachshunds). Selective breeding isn&#8217;t fast, but given enough generations, it works. Breed one dog with desirable traits to another with desirable traits and, hopefully, their puppies inherit both. If not, try again.</span></p><p><span>Over and over, for thousands of years.</span></p><p><span>If you&#8217;re a cat person, you know this. You quickly get used to the idea that the feline sharing your home would probably do just fine without you. Every now and then, you catch a glance that expresses your cat&#8217;s sheer </span><em><span>tolerance </span></em><span>of being near you.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!d9l5!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1b329741-61df-47a3-b469-892a3b02ca12_1536x1024.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!d9l5!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1b329741-61df-47a3-b469-892a3b02ca12_1536x1024.png 424w, 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data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/1b329741-61df-47a3-b469-892a3b02ca12_1536x1024.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:971,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:2038137,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Hand-drawn comparison showing dog domestication from wolf to Chihuahua through many distinct breeds, while cats change very little from the African wildcat to the modern tabby.&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/i/203604150?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1b329741-61df-47a3-b469-892a3b02ca12_1536x1024.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!d9l5!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1b329741-61df-47a3-b469-892a3b02ca12_1536x1024.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!d9l5!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1b329741-61df-47a3-b469-892a3b02ca12_1536x1024.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Need a dog for a specific job or type of work? If we don&#8217;t have one, we&#8217;ll make one! Need a cat to keep rodents down? Got one in stock and can get going anytime. Image: AI</em></figcaption></figure></div><p><span>Cats didn&#8217;t need to change.</span></p><p><span>Meet the African wildcat, </span><em><span>Felis lybica</span></em><span>, the primary wild ancestor of today&#8217;s domestic cats.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sSPp!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F87bf5cb1-0a87-4d4b-b5a3-970ae94315d2_1280x944.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sSPp!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F87bf5cb1-0a87-4d4b-b5a3-970ae94315d2_1280x944.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sSPp!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F87bf5cb1-0a87-4d4b-b5a3-970ae94315d2_1280x944.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sSPp!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F87bf5cb1-0a87-4d4b-b5a3-970ae94315d2_1280x944.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sSPp!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F87bf5cb1-0a87-4d4b-b5a3-970ae94315d2_1280x944.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sSPp!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F87bf5cb1-0a87-4d4b-b5a3-970ae94315d2_1280x944.jpeg" width="1280" height="944" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/87bf5cb1-0a87-4d4b-b5a3-970ae94315d2_1280x944.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:944,&quot;width&quot;:1280,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;African wildcat (Felis lybica) resting in grass, showing the striped coat, ringed tail, and overall appearance that closely resembles a modern domestic tabby cat.&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="African wildcat (Felis lybica) resting in grass, showing the striped coat, ringed tail, and overall appearance that closely resembles a modern domestic tabby cat." title="African wildcat (Felis lybica) resting in grass, showing the striped coat, ringed tail, and overall appearance that closely resembles a modern domestic tabby cat." srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sSPp!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F87bf5cb1-0a87-4d4b-b5a3-970ae94315d2_1280x944.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sSPp!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F87bf5cb1-0a87-4d4b-b5a3-970ae94315d2_1280x944.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sSPp!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F87bf5cb1-0a87-4d4b-b5a3-970ae94315d2_1280x944.jpeg 1272w, 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11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Southern African Wildcat (Felis sylvestris cafra) female, captive specimen. Image: <a href="https://www.flickr.com/people/65695019@N07">Bernard DUPONT</a> CC BY-SA 2.0</em></figcaption></figure></div><p><span>Yup. That&#8217;s basically...a cat.</span></p><p><span>There are two reasons for that. First, cats joined us roughly 20,000 years after dogs. Second, they never needed a different job. They&#8217;re still doing exactly the job they applied for: hunting rodents. Anything they do other than hunting rodents is just waiting to hunt rodents. T</span>here are even suggestions that cats are neurologically plucking at our heartstrings, endearing themselves to us with their <a href="https://www.newscientist.com/article/2500925-cats-revealed-in-all-their-glory-in-stunning-new-photographs/">baked-in cuteness</a>. </p><p><span>Domesticated cats have undergone surprisingly few physical changes. Compared to African wildcats, they have slightly smaller brains and a handful of subtle skull differences, but that&#8217;s about it. Otherwise, the cat sleeping on your couch is basically a wildcat with better customer service.</span></p><p><span>As grain stores spread throughout the ancient world, so did cats. One of the earliest pieces of evidence for the human-cat partnership comes from a 9,500-year-old burial site on Cyprus, where a person was buried alongside a cat. Wildcats weren&#8217;t native to Cyprus, so someone intentionally introduced them there. Whether it arrived as a pest controller, a companion, or both, it was important enough to be buried beside its human.</span></p><p><span>Cats became especially important in ancient Egypt, where they protected grain stores, became household companions, and were eventually associated with the goddess Bastet.</span></p><p><span>From there, cats </span><a href="https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.adt2642"><span>traveled with merchants, farmers, soldiers, and sailors</span></a><span>. They spread along trade routes, aboard Roman ships, and later with European explorers, becoming one of humanity&#8217;s most successful traveling companions.</span></p><p><span>Because domestic cats spread so recently and so successfully, scientists still view them as a single global population with relatively little genetic differentiation. </span></p><p><span>But there was almost a different form of cat hanging around humans&#8230;</span></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.thescienceof.org/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><h1><strong><span>China Tried Its Own Cat Partnership</span></strong></h1><p><span>Around 5,400 years ago, leopard cats began appearing in archaeological sites associated with farming villages in China. They also show up in ancient Chinese art. </span><a href="https://www.sci.news/archaeology/ancient-chinese-domesticated-leopard-cats-prionailurus-bengalensis-03594.html"><span>This relationship appears to have lasted for centuries</span></a><span>. Then, sometime during the first millennium CE, leopard cats gradually disappeared from the archaeological and cultural record, replaced by domestic cats descended from African wildcats.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!cNEA!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa6bd3859-483d-4e63-a747-70b658ce2fb9_1920x1244.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!cNEA!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa6bd3859-483d-4e63-a747-70b658ce2fb9_1920x1244.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!cNEA!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa6bd3859-483d-4e63-a747-70b658ce2fb9_1920x1244.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!cNEA!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa6bd3859-483d-4e63-a747-70b658ce2fb9_1920x1244.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!cNEA!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa6bd3859-483d-4e63-a747-70b658ce2fb9_1920x1244.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!cNEA!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa6bd3859-483d-4e63-a747-70b658ce2fb9_1920x1244.jpeg" width="1456" height="943" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/a6bd3859-483d-4e63-a747-70b658ce2fb9_1920x1244.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:943,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Leopard cat stalking through dense vegetation, showing its bold spotted coat and striped face that distinguish it from the more familiar domestic cat.&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Leopard cat stalking through dense vegetation, showing its bold spotted coat and striped face that distinguish it from the more familiar domestic cat." title="Leopard cat stalking through dense vegetation, showing its bold spotted coat and striped face that distinguish it from the more familiar domestic cat." srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!cNEA!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa6bd3859-483d-4e63-a747-70b658ce2fb9_1920x1244.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!cNEA!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa6bd3859-483d-4e63-a747-70b658ce2fb9_1920x1244.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!cNEA!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa6bd3859-483d-4e63-a747-70b658ce2fb9_1920x1244.jpeg 1272w, 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Tambako The Jaguar / CC BY-ND 2.0.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p><span>The reason leopard cats moved into ancient Chinese settlements was probably the same one that drew African wildcats into villages in the Near East. Like other human civilizations, agriculture created the same food chain:</span></p><p><span>Villages &#8594; grain stores &#8594; rodents &#8594; leopard cats.</span></p><p><span>And&#8230;</span></p><p><span>&#8230;nothing.</span></p><p><span>It took centuries, but the great leopard cat experiment eventually fizzled.</span></p><p><span>It was one of those rare cases of evolution running the same experiment twice.</span></p><p><span>Once, with African wildcats, we got the cat sleeping on your couch.</span></p><p><span>The second time, with leopard cats in ancient China, the experiment simply...didn&#8217;t take.</span></p><p><span>African wildcats and humans formed a successful commensal partnership. Leopard cats and humans, for reasons we still don&#8217;t fully understand, didn&#8217;t.</span></p><p><span>Leopard cats didn&#8217;t disappear from China; they simply disappeared from human settlements and the archaeological record.</span></p><blockquote><p><strong><span>Side note:</span></strong><span> There is absolutely no evidence that a leopard cat, after years of being antagonistic towards the Emperor, scratched him one too many times, and the Emperor decreed that there would be no more cats in houses. It&#8217;s a kind of funny story, but no evidence.</span></p></blockquote><p><span>Nearly a thousand years later, domestic cats descended from African wildcats arrived via long-distance trade, probably by the Tang Dynasty. Those are the ancestors of the house cats living in China today.</span></p><h1><strong><span>Would Cats Survive Us?</span></strong></h1><p><span>So let&#8217;s go back to the world of </span><em><span>Flow</span></em><span>.</span></p><p><span>If humanity disappeared tomorrow, how would dogs do?</span></p><p><span>Many working breeds would probably adapt reasonably well, just as we see in </span><em><span>Flow</span></em><span>. Others would struggle almost immediately. Bulldogs, pugs, and many toy breeds would find themselves on evolution&#8217;s very short list of unfortunate design choices.</span></p><p><span>Over many generations, without human breeding, the boundaries between dog breeds would gradually disappear. The end result would most likely be a medium-sized, lean, athletic dog with upright ears, a narrow muzzle, and a short coat, with many populations likely hunting cooperatively when conditions favored it.</span></p><blockquote><p><strong><span>Side note:</span></strong><span> What was just described can now be observed: about 75&#8211;80% of the world&#8217;s dogs aren&#8217;t pets. They&#8217;re free-breeding village dogs. Across Africa, Asia, South America, and parts of Europe, they&#8217;ve already converged on almost exactly the same body plan: medium-sized, tan or brown, short-haired, pointed ears, narrow muzzle, athletic build. That&#8217;s kind of cool from an evolutionary perspective.</span></p></blockquote><p><span>What about cats? Cat people already know the answer: </span><strong><span>cats would do just fine without us</span></strong><span>.</span></p><p><span>Cats are fully domesticated, but they&#8217;re much less changed by domestication than dogs are. They still know how to stalk, hunt, climb, and survive on their own. They tolerate partnerships with humans remarkably well, yet retain many of the skills that made their wild ancestors successful. They&#8217;re remarkably unchanged despite their millennia-long relationship with us. The millions of feral cats living around the world demonstrate just how quickly domestic cats can return to hunting and independent living.</span></p><p><span>Over generations, feral populations would likely become leaner and warier, gradually losing traits that only make sense in human homes. But overall, they probably wouldn&#8217;t look dramatically different from today&#8217;s cats.</span></p><p><span>Dogs would spend generations becoming more like their ancestors.</span></p><p><span>Cats?</span></p><p><span>They&#8217;ve never wandered very far from theirs.</span></p><h1><strong><span>Evolution Doesn&#8217;t Care About Ownership</span></strong></h1><p><span>Given our long relationship with cats and the role they play in our lives, it&#8217;s easy to think that we &#8220;created&#8221; cats the same way we created dogs.</span></p><p><span>That&#8217;s not the way the science rolls here.</span></p><p><span>We didn&#8217;t choose cats; they chose us. We built an ecosystem that rewards one particular type of wildcat &#8212; one that does the job, isn&#8217;t too scared of us, and responds to rewards. The cats stayed because it worked.</span></p><p><span>Civilization changed the world and undoubtedly created the dog, but it barely changed the cat.</span></p><p><em><span>Flow</span></em><span> imagines a world after us.</span></p><p><span>Ironically, one of its most believable characters may be the one we&#8217;ve been living beside for more than 10,000 years.</span></p><div id="youtube2-ZgZccxuj2RY" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;ZgZccxuj2RY&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:null,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/ZgZccxuj2RY?rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div><p><em><strong>Curiosity is what brought me here.</strong></em></p><p><em><strong>Teaching is what I do with it.</strong></em></p><p><em><strong><span>If you&#8217;d like to read more about education, classrooms, students, and the craft of teaching, you&#8217;ll find those stories in </span><a href="https://bradyteach.substack.com/">Teacher, Teacher</a><span>.</span></strong></em></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Why Backrooms Break Your Brain]]></title><description><![CDATA[The neuroscience of cognitive maps, unresolved threats, and the unsettling feeling of almost remembering a place you've never been.]]></description><link>https://www.thescienceof.org/p/why-backrooms-break-your-brain</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.thescienceof.org/p/why-backrooms-break-your-brain</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt Brady]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2026 12:15:28 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/ed49297b-74ab-4c45-90f5-63e163ac75f2_374x266.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span>So &#8212; The Backrooms.</span></p><p><span>The phenomenon that would become the film </span><em><span>Backrooms </span></em><span>was seeded on a </span><a href="https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/the-backrooms"><span>paranormal-themed 4chan message board in 2019</span></a><span>, when users were asked to &#8220;</span><span data-color="rgb(32, 33, 34)" style="color: rgb(32, 33, 34);">post disquieting images that just feel &#8216;off.&#8217;</span><span>&#8221; The initial post was followed by the now iconic image:</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!majq!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F004275f5-ad75-464e-9da7-85cd97d674b1_640x480.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!majq!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F004275f5-ad75-464e-9da7-85cd97d674b1_640x480.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!majq!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F004275f5-ad75-464e-9da7-85cd97d674b1_640x480.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!majq!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F004275f5-ad75-464e-9da7-85cd97d674b1_640x480.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!majq!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F004275f5-ad75-464e-9da7-85cd97d674b1_640x480.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!majq!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F004275f5-ad75-464e-9da7-85cd97d674b1_640x480.jpeg" width="640" height="480" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/004275f5-ad75-464e-9da7-85cd97d674b1_640x480.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:480,&quot;width&quot;:640,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;An empty maze of yellow-walled rooms lit by fluorescent ceiling panels. Beige carpeting, repeating wallpaper, and a lack of furniture or landmarks make the abandoned space feel strangely familiar yet deeply unsettling.&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:true,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="An empty maze of yellow-walled rooms lit by fluorescent ceiling panels. Beige carpeting, repeating wallpaper, and a lack of furniture or landmarks make the abandoned space feel strangely familiar yet deeply unsettling." title="An empty maze of yellow-walled rooms lit by fluorescent ceiling panels. Beige carpeting, repeating wallpaper, and a lack of furniture or landmarks make the abandoned space feel strangely familiar yet deeply unsettling." srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!majq!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F004275f5-ad75-464e-9da7-85cd97d674b1_640x480.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!majq!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F004275f5-ad75-464e-9da7-85cd97d674b1_640x480.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!majq!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F004275f5-ad75-464e-9da7-85cd97d674b1_640x480.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!majq!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F004275f5-ad75-464e-9da7-85cd97d674b1_640x480.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em><span>It&#8217;s a simple image of a furniture store in Oshkosh, Wisconsin, undergoing renovations in 2002, but it spawned everything. (Original </span><a href="https://archive.org/details/backrooms-photos/807OREGON/DSC00161.jpg"><span>photo </span></a><span>posted by Bill Magritz, </span><a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=151138961&#8220;"><span>Creative Commons</span></a><span>)</span></em></figcaption></figure></div><p><span>As a follow-up to the image, an anonymous 4chan poster wrote:</span></p><p><em><span data-color="rgb(32, 33, 34)" style="color: rgb(32, 33, 34);">If you&#8217;re not careful and you </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_clipping"><span data-color="rgb(51, 102, 204)" style="color: rgb(51, 102, 204);">noclip</span></a><span data-color="rgb(32, 33, 34)" style="color: rgb(32, 33, 34);"> out of reality in the wrong areas, you&#8217;ll end up in the Backrooms, where it&#8217;s nothing but the stink of old moist carpet, the madness of mono-yellow, the endless background noise of fluorescent lights at maximum hum-buzz, and approximately six hundred million square miles of randomly segmented empty rooms to be trapped in<br><br>God save you if you hear something wandering around nearby&#8230;because it sure as hell has heard you.</span></em></p><p><span>The thread went viral and led to Kane Parsons (then 16 and posting as &#8216;Kane Pixels&#8217;) creating the web series, which, over multiple episodes, built an entire mythology atop the original idea.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!J9wc!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3cb8a12d-3fa9-4978-b090-9c891c45a7a9_374x266.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!J9wc!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3cb8a12d-3fa9-4978-b090-9c891c45a7a9_374x266.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!J9wc!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3cb8a12d-3fa9-4978-b090-9c891c45a7a9_374x266.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!J9wc!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3cb8a12d-3fa9-4978-b090-9c891c45a7a9_374x266.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!J9wc!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3cb8a12d-3fa9-4978-b090-9c891c45a7a9_374x266.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!J9wc!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3cb8a12d-3fa9-4978-b090-9c891c45a7a9_374x266.jpeg" width="614" height="436.6951871657754" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/3cb8a12d-3fa9-4978-b090-9c891c45a7a9_374x266.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:266,&quot;width&quot;:374,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:614,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;A frame from Kane Parsons' Backrooms series depicting an endless expanse of yellow-tinted rooms under fluorescent lights. The nearly identical walls, corners, and corridors provide no clear sense of direction, evoking the unsettling feeling of being lost in a place that should make sense but doesn't.&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="A frame from Kane Parsons' Backrooms series depicting an endless expanse of yellow-tinted rooms under fluorescent lights. The nearly identical walls, corners, and corridors provide no clear sense of direction, evoking the unsettling feeling of being lost in a place that should make sense but doesn't." title="A frame from Kane Parsons' Backrooms series depicting an endless expanse of yellow-tinted rooms under fluorescent lights. The nearly identical walls, corners, and corridors provide no clear sense of direction, evoking the unsettling feeling of being lost in a place that should make sense but doesn't." srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!J9wc!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3cb8a12d-3fa9-4978-b090-9c891c45a7a9_374x266.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!J9wc!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3cb8a12d-3fa9-4978-b090-9c891c45a7a9_374x266.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!J9wc!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3cb8a12d-3fa9-4978-b090-9c891c45a7a9_374x266.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!J9wc!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3cb8a12d-3fa9-4978-b090-9c891c45a7a9_374x266.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><span>Parsons&#8217; version is by far the most popular, with secret organizations, characters, and monsters inhabiting a world just out of reach.</span></p><p><span>But let&#8217;s get something straight - Backrooms works not because it&#8217;s another monster movie. Even before Parsons added monsters, secret projects, and an entire mythology, the original image was already unsettling.</span></p><p><span>And now there&#8217;s a movie. Sure, it&#8217;s called a horror movie, but is it? Traditional horror movies give us slashers, maniacs, monsters, and ghosts. But The Backrooms gives us&#8230;endless office space as the main &#8220;character?&#8221;</span></p><p><span>Why is an endless set of rooms scarier than a monster?</span></p><p><span>Yes, it&#8217;s a </span><em><strong><span>liminal </span></strong></em><span>space &#8212; somewhere that&#8217;s a transition between one area and the next, and yes, in our experience, it should be occupied by&#8230;something. It&#8217;s also uncanny. Useful explanations, but they don&#8217;t really explain why these places feel so weird and unsettling.</span></p><p><span>To get into the core creepiness of Backrooms, we need to dig into your brain (not literally) and look at our own operating systems we rely on every day: </span></p><ul><li><p><span>Navigation</span></p></li><li><p><span>Threat Detection</span></p></li><li><p><span>Memory</span></p></li></ul><p><span>Break one, and things get confusing. Break all three, and things get scary.  The Backrooms does exactly that.</span></p><p><span>Let&#8217;s get into the neuroscience of the Backrooms.</span></p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">But first - like pop culture and science all smashed together? Subscribe and get it showing up in your inbox on the regular!</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><h1><strong><span>There&#8217;s a Hidden GPS in Your Head</span></strong></h1><p><span>Constantly, whether you think about it or not, your brain is </span><a href="https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/medicine/2014/press-release/"><span>building maps of your physical surroundings</span></a><span>. Normally, it doesn&#8217;t even reach conscious awareness, but if you try to feel it, it&#8217;s there. Go for a walk &#8212; without &#8220;knowing,&#8221; you have a basic idea of the area around you, if there&#8217;s a path coming up, the rough location of large objects, and a million other small details that you&#8217;re not looking for. And it&#8217;s not just an &#8220;in nature&#8221; thing. Your brain will build representations of the area around you in buildings, whether they&#8217;re large open spaces like a Costco warehouse or more constricted areas, like hotel hallways or office spaces.</span></p><p><span>It&#8217;s the &#8220;wait, this isn&#8217;t right&#8230;&#8221; you feel when you get off on the wrong floor in a building. You didn&#8217;t bother to memorize all the landmarks and specific bits of stuff, but your brain did, quietly labeling them &#8216;my floor.&#8217;</span></p><p><span>It&#8217;s just another service offered by our brains, a jelly-like organ that are always trying to make sense of the world around us.</span></p><p><span>One of the major hubs involved in this process is the entorhinal cortex  (in your temporal lobe). Broadly speaking, different parts of the entorhinal cortex help process information about objects, locations, distances, and spatial relationships. That information is fed to the hippocampus, which smashes it all together and combines it with existing memories to make mental maps of your surroundings.</span></p><p><span>Oh, and it&#8217;s far cooler than it sounds.</span></p><p><span>The entorhinal-hippocampal region also has specialized neurons called </span><a href="https://www.brainfacts.org/thinking-sensing-and-behaving/learning-and-memory/2014/mapping-your-every-move"><span>grid cells, border cells, and place cells</span></a><span>. Grid cells are like biological graph paper in your brain upon which your surroundings are overlaid; border cells inform the brain when it&#8217;s near the border of a specific location or environment, and place cells are the &#8220;you are here&#8221; marker inside your brain. Combine these three types with head direction cells that keep track of which direction your head is pointed, and you&#8217;ve got&#8230;</span></p><p><span>&#8230;I know. It sounds like I just described the GPS on your phone, down to the dot&#8217;s direction on the map. That&#8217;s because I did.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UikL!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb6f971ba-069d-43d1-89f2-da95ebbe9615_1536x1024.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UikL!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb6f971ba-069d-43d1-89f2-da95ebbe9615_1536x1024.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UikL!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb6f971ba-069d-43d1-89f2-da95ebbe9615_1536x1024.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UikL!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb6f971ba-069d-43d1-89f2-da95ebbe9615_1536x1024.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UikL!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb6f971ba-069d-43d1-89f2-da95ebbe9615_1536x1024.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UikL!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb6f971ba-069d-43d1-89f2-da95ebbe9615_1536x1024.png" width="1456" height="971" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/b6f971ba-069d-43d1-89f2-da95ebbe9615_1536x1024.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:971,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:1469532,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Hand-drawn whiteboard-style infographic explaining how the brain creates mental maps. A four-step diagram shows a person moving through the world, the entorhinal cortex and hippocampus processing information, the creation of an internal &#8220;you are here&#8221; map, and unconscious navigation. Below, illustrations of grid cells, border cells, place cells, and head-direction cells demonstrate how specialized neurons work together as the brain&#8217;s internal GPS system.&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/i/202364545?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb6f971ba-069d-43d1-89f2-da95ebbe9615_1536x1024.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Hand-drawn whiteboard-style infographic explaining how the brain creates mental maps. A four-step diagram shows a person moving through the world, the entorhinal cortex and hippocampus processing information, the creation of an internal &#8220;you are here&#8221; map, and unconscious navigation. Below, illustrations of grid cells, border cells, place cells, and head-direction cells demonstrate how specialized neurons work together as the brain&#8217;s internal GPS system." title="Hand-drawn whiteboard-style infographic explaining how the brain creates mental maps. A four-step diagram shows a person moving through the world, the entorhinal cortex and hippocampus processing information, the creation of an internal &#8220;you are here&#8221; map, and unconscious navigation. Below, illustrations of grid cells, border cells, place cells, and head-direction cells demonstrate how specialized neurons work together as the brain&#8217;s internal GPS system." srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UikL!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb6f971ba-069d-43d1-89f2-da95ebbe9615_1536x1024.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UikL!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb6f971ba-069d-43d1-89f2-da95ebbe9615_1536x1024.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UikL!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb6f971ba-069d-43d1-89f2-da95ebbe9615_1536x1024.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UikL!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb6f971ba-069d-43d1-89f2-da95ebbe9615_1536x1024.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><span>Your brain builds models of the spaces it&#8217;s in. Go into a building, and your hippocampus gives a thumbs up &#8212; it knows what to expect from a &#8220;building:&#8221; hallways, doors, water fountains and other landmarks. Meanwhile, your sensory organs are feeding your brain specific information &#8212; including landmarks &#8212; that make this &#8220;building&#8221; unique in the hippocampus&#8217; collection of &#8220;buildings.&#8221;</span></p><p><span>Internal navigation loves landmarks.</span></p><p><span>This process is going on all the time. We don&#8217;t notice it.</span></p><p><span>Break this process down, and things get uncomfortable.</span></p><p><span>That&#8217;s what the Backrooms do &#8212; they short-circuit the </span><a href="https://www.scientificamerican.com/podcast/episode/mind-map-2014-nobel-med-phys/"><span>brain&#8217;s mapping system</span></a><span>. The Backrooms are nothing but repetition and sameness. Rooms feel familiar, but not unique. A hallway should help you orient yourself. A landmark should help you build a map. A room should tell you where you are. In the Backrooms, every new piece of information feels useless.</span></p><p><span>The Backrooms fight the brain&#8217;s machinery that&#8217;s trying to build a map.</span></p><p><span>Whether you&#8217;re watching it or experiencing it, you&#8217;ll experience disorientation, uncertainty, and a loss of control. This is spatial anxiety, and we&#8217;ve all felt it at one time or another. The brain&#8217;s trying, but cannot make sense of the world it&#8217;s in. It doesn&#8217;t know whether it&#8217;s making progress by moving in a certain direction or just walking in circles.</span></p><p><span>If you knew you were in a maze, you&#8217;d probably feel a little better with that knowledge, but the Backrooms don&#8217;t look like a maze. They just&#8230;continue.</span></p><p><strong>A nowhere of endless sameness.</strong></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.thescienceof.org/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><h1><strong><span>Uncertainty Is Worse Than Danger</span></strong></h1><p><span>Let&#8217;s say you&#8217;re urban exploring in an abandoned mall. Two scenarios:</span></p><p><span>Scenario A: Standing in front of an abandoned Spencer&#8217;s (no judgment), you look down the way, and in the dim light, you see a figure. Slowly, they pull a machete from behind their back.</span></p><p><span>Scenario B: Standing in front of that Spencer&#8217;s (starting to judge), you hear a noise from the mall&#8217;s second floor. Were they footsteps? A metallic tap-tap-tap? Just the structure settling, adjusting to the temperature?</span></p><p><span>It&#8217;s the secret sauce of scary movies. You can reveal or withhold (and hint). Both produce different responses, and you can certainly think of movies that did either one. But of the two, Scenario B often creates longer-lasting stress. It keeps your defensive system active because your brain hates unresolved threats. It wants to know, and it wants to know </span><strong><span>now</span></strong><span>.</span></p><p><span>Your brain was made to handle stress that could be easily identified and dealt with, not unresolved stress and anxiety.</span></p><p><span>When the brain detects a threat, it activates the sympathetic nervous system, triggering the well-known &#8220;</span><a href="https://health.clevelandclinic.org/what-happens-to-your-body-during-the-fight-or-flight-response"><span>fight, flight, or freeze</span></a><span>&#8221; response. The response&#8217;s main hallmarks are increased vigilance, hyper-awareness, the release of stress hormones, and a heightened startle response. For a revealed threat, the brain evaluates and gets things rolling. The adrenal glands have dumped those stress hormones into your bloodstream, and you&#8217;re ready to throw hands, run, or be literally paralyzed with fear.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!U7HX!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9a7643f1-bc9c-4373-ab41-af70d2d099de_1536x1024.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!U7HX!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9a7643f1-bc9c-4373-ab41-af70d2d099de_1536x1024.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!U7HX!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9a7643f1-bc9c-4373-ab41-af70d2d099de_1536x1024.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!U7HX!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9a7643f1-bc9c-4373-ab41-af70d2d099de_1536x1024.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!U7HX!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9a7643f1-bc9c-4373-ab41-af70d2d099de_1536x1024.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!U7HX!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9a7643f1-bc9c-4373-ab41-af70d2d099de_1536x1024.png" width="1456" height="971" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/9a7643f1-bc9c-4373-ab41-af70d2d099de_1536x1024.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:971,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:1537256,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Whiteboard-style diagram comparing a resolved threat with an unresolved one. Illustrations show the brain's fight-flight-freeze response, stress hormones, and heightened vigilance, explaining how uncertainty keeps the nervous system activated and unable to fully relax.&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/i/202364545?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9a7643f1-bc9c-4373-ab41-af70d2d099de_1536x1024.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Whiteboard-style diagram comparing a resolved threat with an unresolved one. Illustrations show the brain's fight-flight-freeze response, stress hormones, and heightened vigilance, explaining how uncertainty keeps the nervous system activated and unable to fully relax." title="Whiteboard-style diagram comparing a resolved threat with an unresolved one. Illustrations show the brain's fight-flight-freeze response, stress hormones, and heightened vigilance, explaining how uncertainty keeps the nervous system activated and unable to fully relax." srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!U7HX!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9a7643f1-bc9c-4373-ab41-af70d2d099de_1536x1024.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!U7HX!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9a7643f1-bc9c-4373-ab41-af70d2d099de_1536x1024.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!U7HX!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9a7643f1-bc9c-4373-ab41-af70d2d099de_1536x1024.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!U7HX!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9a7643f1-bc9c-4373-ab41-af70d2d099de_1536x1024.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><span>But when the threat is never resolved, the system never fully powers down. It&#8217;s still there, waiting and ready. You cannot relax. In a sense, that&#8217;s a good thing. Your nervous system is working exactly as designed.</span></p><p><span>But when that state keeps going and going and going, it&#8217;s exhausting. And uncomfortable. You scan the surroundings more. Movement is slowed, and your sensory awareness goes through the roof.</span></p><p><span>And the Backrooms rarely present a visible threat. Just strange sounds, hints of distant movement, empty corridors, and endless uncertainty. Your nervous system becomes trapped in that same endless anticipation. It&#8217;s Scenario B, stretched out indefinitely.</span></p><p><span>The scariest part from this side of the neuroscience of the Backrooms isn&#8217;t that something might be there. It&#8217;s that your brain never gets </span><a href="https://www.nimh.nih.gov/"><span>permission to stop looking</span></a><span>.</span></p><blockquote><p>Side Note: Early video games accidentally discovered something horror filmmakers already knew: what you don't show can be more unsettling than what you do. Fog hid technical limitations, but it also forced players to imagine what might be lurking just beyond the edge of visibility. Silent Hill was and still is creepy as hell.</p></blockquote><h1><strong><span>This Place </span></strong><em><strong><span>Feels </span></strong></em><strong><span>Familiar</span></strong></h1><p><span>The third gut punch the Backrooms makes to our brains?</span></p><p><span>Nostalgia.</span></p><p><span>Again, your brain is desperate to make sense of its surroundings, and dammit, the Backrooms feel&#8230;familiar.</span></p><p><span>But they&#8217;re not.</span></p><p><span>Moving through the Backrooms, they feel like schools, or office buildings, or hotels, or waiting rooms. Spaces you&#8217;ve been to many times and have memories of. But this? This place isn&#8217;t identifiable. It doesn&#8217;t match any of the patterns your brain wants to compare it against.</span></p><p><span>Usually, when your brain asks, &#8220;Wait &#8212;  have I seen this before? Can I place it in my memory?&#8221; the answer is yes. You&#8217;ve been there before, or the setting is similar to other places like it. But the Backrooms break that process.</span></p><p><span>Several memory systems come into play here:</span></p><ul><li><p><span>Autobiographical memory - your life&#8217;s narrative and identity</span></p></li><li><p><span>Place memory - the collection of places where things occurred</span></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/basics/nostalgia"><span>Nostalgia</span></a><span> - an emotional response often built from the first two.</span></p></li></ul><p><span>With the Backrooms, none of these are working fully. You might </span><em><span>kinda </span></em><span>remember having seen a place that </span><em><span>kinda </span></em><span>looks like this. </span><em><span>Kinda</span></em><span>.</span></p><p><span>And that &#8220;kinda&#8221; is the key to the unsettled nature of the Backrooms.</span></p><p><span>Neuroscientists call this </span><strong><a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4251874/"><span>familiarity without recollection</span></a></strong><span>. It&#8217;s not &#8220;I remember this,&#8221; it&#8217;s  &#8220;I </span><em><span>should </span></em><span>remember this.&#8221;</span></p><p><span>And that&#8217;s uncomfortably close to &#8220;I almost remember this.&#8221;</span></p><p><span>Your brain, when seeing the various locations of the Backrooms, gets a ping of familiarity, but none of the reward that comes with recognition.</span></p><p><span>Because those memories remain fuzzy, the Backrooms take on that uncanny feeling. It&#8217;s like you&#8217;re walking through a dream you forgot you had, or a school hallway that never existed, or a location from your childhood that you realize you misremembered. It&#8217;s like when you have a dream about walking through your home, and you see a door where you know, for a fact, no door exists. Unsettling, yeah?</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2ZDB!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fde1c780d-c880-4040-803a-d58d4ce7bb0a_1536x1024.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2ZDB!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fde1c780d-c880-4040-803a-d58d4ce7bb0a_1536x1024.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2ZDB!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fde1c780d-c880-4040-803a-d58d4ce7bb0a_1536x1024.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2ZDB!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fde1c780d-c880-4040-803a-d58d4ce7bb0a_1536x1024.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2ZDB!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fde1c780d-c880-4040-803a-d58d4ce7bb0a_1536x1024.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2ZDB!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fde1c780d-c880-4040-803a-d58d4ce7bb0a_1536x1024.png" width="1456" height="971" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/de1c780d-c880-4040-803a-d58d4ce7bb0a_1536x1024.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:971,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:1946782,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;A hand-drawn diagram comparing normal recognition with the Backrooms. Familiar places trigger successful memory retrieval, while the Backrooms produce &#8220;familiarity without recollection&#8221;&#8212;the unsettling sensation that you should remember a place but can't. An impossible floor plan with an extra door illustrates how the Backrooms feel like a forgotten dream or a corrupted memory.&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/i/202364545?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fde1c780d-c880-4040-803a-d58d4ce7bb0a_1536x1024.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="A hand-drawn diagram comparing normal recognition with the Backrooms. Familiar places trigger successful memory retrieval, while the Backrooms produce &#8220;familiarity without recollection&#8221;&#8212;the unsettling sensation that you should remember a place but can't. An impossible floor plan with an extra door illustrates how the Backrooms feel like a forgotten dream or a corrupted memory." title="A hand-drawn diagram comparing normal recognition with the Backrooms. Familiar places trigger successful memory retrieval, while the Backrooms produce &#8220;familiarity without recollection&#8221;&#8212;the unsettling sensation that you should remember a place but can't. An impossible floor plan with an extra door illustrates how the Backrooms feel like a forgotten dream or a corrupted memory." srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2ZDB!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fde1c780d-c880-4040-803a-d58d4ce7bb0a_1536x1024.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2ZDB!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fde1c780d-c880-4040-803a-d58d4ce7bb0a_1536x1024.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2ZDB!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fde1c780d-c880-4040-803a-d58d4ce7bb0a_1536x1024.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2ZDB!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fde1c780d-c880-4040-803a-d58d4ce7bb0a_1536x1024.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><span>Or think about the early days of video games. Producers offered games with ambitions that exceeded the hardware&#8217;s capabilities. How to make something creepy (that the processor couldn&#8217;t reliably render?) Add fog. Keep the immediate surroundings somewhat familiar, but mist things out starting at the mid-distance. </span></p><p><span>The Backrooms, created from bits and pieces of real environments, feel like that &#8212; a damaged memory. Not something fake that your brain could suss out immediately, and not something real, but something in between.</span></p><p><span>All your brain wants to do is make sense of the setting and find a match somewhere in storage, and it&#8217;s trying every tool it&#8217;s got, but none of them work.</span></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.thescienceof.org/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><h1><strong><span>The Monster Paradox</span></strong></h1><p><span>This is more observation than science, but many Backrooms fans think that the entities that show up are the weakest part of the lore of Parsons&#8217; Backrooms.</span></p><p><span>I know, I know &#8212; &#8220;But it&#8217;s a horror movie! There should be monsters!&#8221;</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zUPj!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe3ae5cfd-cb8b-451e-9ce0-cd153f0fe1f6_955x537.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zUPj!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe3ae5cfd-cb8b-451e-9ce0-cd153f0fe1f6_955x537.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zUPj!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe3ae5cfd-cb8b-451e-9ce0-cd153f0fe1f6_955x537.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zUPj!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe3ae5cfd-cb8b-451e-9ce0-cd153f0fe1f6_955x537.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zUPj!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe3ae5cfd-cb8b-451e-9ce0-cd153f0fe1f6_955x537.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zUPj!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe3ae5cfd-cb8b-451e-9ce0-cd153f0fe1f6_955x537.jpeg" width="955" height="537" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/e3ae5cfd-cb8b-451e-9ce0-cd153f0fe1f6_955x537.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:537,&quot;width&quot;:955,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:64318,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;The entity is unsettling, but it also gives the brain something it desperately wants: an answer. Once there's a monster, the Backrooms stop being an unsolvable mystery and become a problem with a target.&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/i/202364545?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe3ae5cfd-cb8b-451e-9ce0-cd153f0fe1f6_955x537.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="The entity is unsettling, but it also gives the brain something it desperately wants: an answer. Once there's a monster, the Backrooms stop being an unsolvable mystery and become a problem with a target." title="The entity is unsettling, but it also gives the brain something it desperately wants: an answer. Once there's a monster, the Backrooms stop being an unsolvable mystery and become a problem with a target." srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zUPj!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe3ae5cfd-cb8b-451e-9ce0-cd153f0fe1f6_955x537.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zUPj!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe3ae5cfd-cb8b-451e-9ce0-cd153f0fe1f6_955x537.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zUPj!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe3ae5cfd-cb8b-451e-9ce0-cd153f0fe1f6_955x537.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zUPj!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe3ae5cfd-cb8b-451e-9ce0-cd153f0fe1f6_955x537.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Kane Parsons eventually populated the Backrooms with entities like this one, shifting the fear from "What is this place?" to "What is chasing me?" For many fans, that's where the horror changes&#8212;from uncertainty itself to a more familiar monster story.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p><span>But &#8212;  go with me here. The monsters in the Backrooms change the idea from environmental horror to a problem with a potential solution. The monster (or entity) gives </span><strong><span>certainty </span></strong><span>to an uncertain, unfamiliar world that is attacking the three systems of your brain that you rely on, day-in, day-out.</span></p><p><span>Now, this unsettling liminal space has a rock. An anchor. You know that: </span></p><ul><li><p><span>Something is chasing you</span></p></li><li><p><span>It wants _____</span></p></li><li><p><span>It behaves like this&#8230;</span></p></li></ul><p><span>Your brain, which has been desperate to make sense of the world it&#8217;s found itself in, can start making rules. As a result, the mystery shrinks. It&#8217;s fear of a thing versus fear of a place. One hits harder - consider the creepiness of:</span></p><ul><li><p><span>An abandoned hospital</span></p></li><li><p><span>Empty schools at night (I&#8217;m a teacher, and they still freak me out)</span></p></li><li><p><span>Endless stairwells</span></p></li><li><p><span>Dense fog</span></p></li></ul><p><span>The environment is the antagonist. It&#8217;s the threat to your understanding of the world, attacking your brain.</span></p><p><span>Monsters? Hell, monsters can be chased and killed, demons exorcised, invaders sent back to where they came from, but what do you do when the world itself is the enemy? Not in the active sense, but in the passive, like the Backrooms.</span></p><p><span>The real &#8220;monster&#8221; of the Backrooms isn&#8217;t a traditional monster that appears in the stories. It&#8217;s not an entity.</span></p><p><span>The monster is uncertainty itself. The architecture of the Backrooms is the predator. The environment has trapped your brain inside a problem it cannot solve.</span></p><h1><strong><span>Your Brain Was Not Designed for the Backrooms</span></strong></h1><p><span>Every day, your brain relies on three systems to function within its environment: navigation, threat detection, and memory. The Backrooms attacks all three.</span></p><p><span>To experience the Backrooms is to know what it&#8217;s like to be unable to build a reliable map of your surroundings in your mind, to be unable to determine whether danger actually exists, and to be unable to determine whether a place is truly familiar.</span></p><p><span>Mess with any one of them, and things get weird. Go after all three, and that&#8217;s the perfect storm &#8212; hitting the audience exactly where evolution left us vulnerable.</span></p><p><span>The result of watching the Backrooms isn&#8217;t just fear. Traveling through the yellow rooms creates a sense of cognitive disorientation.</span></p><p><span>Unlike so many horror stories, the Backrooms aren&#8217;t terrifying because something is hiding in the darkness. They&#8217;re terrifying because the darkness has moved into systems we normally trust without thinking: our sense of place, our sense of safety, and our sense of memory. The moment those systems stop working, even a fluorescent-lit office can become a nightmare.</span></p><p><span>The Backrooms aren&#8217;t a haunted house.</span></p><p><span>They&#8217;re a haunted operating system.</span></p><p><em><strong>Curiosity is what brought me here.</strong></em></p><p><em><strong>Teaching is what I do with it.</strong></em></p><p><em><strong><span>If you&#8217;d like to read more about education, classrooms, students, and the craft of teaching, you&#8217;ll find those stories in </span><a href="https://bradyteach.substack.com/">Teacher, Teacher</a><span>.</span></strong></em></p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading The Science Of...! Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support my work.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Rick and Morty's Tiny Earth Is a Tiny Death Trap]]></title><description><![CDATA[(Archive) Rick and Morty's Tiny Earth seems perfect&#8212;until physics gets involved. Calculate its gravity, density, escape velocity, and fatal flaws.]]></description><link>https://www.thescienceof.org/p/rick-and-mortys-tiny-earth-is-a-tiny-death-trap</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.thescienceof.org/p/rick-and-mortys-tiny-earth-is-a-tiny-death-trap</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt Brady]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2026 12:15:31 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WHOh!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd8db2954-54cd-4116-a713-fe3696534bd1_1220x672.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Artifact Recovered: original publication date: 8/24/17</em></p><p><em>This piece was originally published on a previous version of The Science Of and has been recovered from the digital strata. Its lightly edited version is represented here because it&#8217;s useful, weird, fascinating, updated, or some combination of the four.</em></p><p><em>all images &#169; Adult Swim</em></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YAvp!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7654a19f-9ab8-422f-9604-a3c50054459a_1280x720.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YAvp!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7654a19f-9ab8-422f-9604-a3c50054459a_1280x720.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YAvp!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7654a19f-9ab8-422f-9604-a3c50054459a_1280x720.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YAvp!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7654a19f-9ab8-422f-9604-a3c50054459a_1280x720.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YAvp!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7654a19f-9ab8-422f-9604-a3c50054459a_1280x720.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YAvp!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7654a19f-9ab8-422f-9604-a3c50054459a_1280x720.jpeg" width="1280" height="720" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/7654a19f-9ab8-422f-9604-a3c50054459a_1280x720.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:720,&quot;width&quot;:1280,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:79499,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Animated scene from Rick and Morty showing Rick's flying vehicle hovering beside Tiny Earth, a miniature Earth-like planet floating in space with visible continents, oceans, and swirling cloud patterns. The joke is, they're not far from it - it's really small. &quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:true,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/i/202349771?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7654a19f-9ab8-422f-9604-a3c50054459a_1280x720.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Animated scene from Rick and Morty showing Rick's flying vehicle hovering beside Tiny Earth, a miniature Earth-like planet floating in space with visible continents, oceans, and swirling cloud patterns. The joke is, they're not far from it - it's really small. " title="Animated scene from Rick and Morty showing Rick's flying vehicle hovering beside Tiny Earth, a miniature Earth-like planet floating in space with visible continents, oceans, and swirling cloud patterns. The joke is, they're not far from it - it's really small. " srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YAvp!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7654a19f-9ab8-422f-9604-a3c50054459a_1280x720.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YAvp!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7654a19f-9ab8-422f-9604-a3c50054459a_1280x720.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YAvp!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7654a19f-9ab8-422f-9604-a3c50054459a_1280x720.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YAvp!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7654a19f-9ab8-422f-9604-a3c50054459a_1280x720.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Rick's search for a new home ends with Tiny Earth: a planet so small you could walk around it in a few minutes, jump into orbit by accident, and discover that your head weighs less than your feet. Real estate prices were probably great, though.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>In its run of over 85 episodes (to date), <em>Rick and Morty</em> have shown us a huge variety of planets &#8211; weird, obscene, funny, normal, big and&#8230;small.</p><p>Looking back on the Season 2 finale, &#8220;Wedding Squanchers,&#8221; Rick, Morty, and the family find themselves on the run after a wedding turns into an ambush for Rick and his friends. After telling his family that they can never go back to Earth, Rick starts hunting for replacement homeworlds, and&#8230;long story short&#8230;they settle on Dwarf Terrace-9, a tiny version of Earth.</p><p>According to Rick, the planet is one of three that is at least 90% like Earth <em>and</em> is outside federal jurisdiction.</p><p>The family lands, and they are basically giants on Tiny Earth. As they&#8217;re there, they are walking normally, like they&#8217;re on Earth &#8211; with normal Earth gravity.</p><p>You can see where this is going, can&#8217;t you?</p><p>Yes, this is a nod to Antoine de Saint-Exup&#233;ry&#8217;s <em>The Little Prince</em>, whose asteroid (Asteroid B-612) is &#8220;scarcely bigger than a house.<em> </em>And we could do the science of that, but let&#8217;s focus on Rick and Morty instead.</p><p>Let&#8217;s get into the science of <em>Rick and Morty&#8217;s</em> Tiny Earth and see if we can figure out its gravity and if <em>you&#8217;d</em> be walking around like it was no big deal.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.thescienceof.org/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><h1>Physics ahead&#8230;</h1><p>&#8230;but it&#8217;s easy. Trust me. I teach this stuff.</p><p>So &#8211; the morning after landing, when Rick comes in and asks if he&#8217;s smelling bacon, the family tells him that they had discovered (and subsequently made extinct) a species of tiny pig off the coast of &#8220;New Australia,&#8221; which, according to Beth, is &#8220;about 30 yards east,&#8221; to which Morty adds, &#8220;or 300 yards west.&#8221;</p><p><em>Boom</em>. We&#8217;ve got a meaningful number.</p><p>If Morty and Beth are describing the same point, and we know its distance from their point, both east and west, we know the distance around the full sphere, or the circumference. We&#8217;re going to assume Morty and Beth were talking about 30 and 300 yards due east and due west, respectively. The full circumference around Tiny Earth? 330 yards.</p><p>Now we can crack this nut.</p><p>What we&#8217;re trying to do is figure out Tiny Earth&#8217;s gravitational pull. Here&#8217;s how we&#8217;re going to do it.</p><p>The formula we need is the gravitational field formula:</p><p style="text-align: center;"><strong>g = Gm/r<sup>2</sup></strong></p><p>Where:</p><p>g = the gravitational field strength in m/s<sup>2</sup></p><p>G = the Cavendish/gravitational constant: 6.67259 x 10<sup>-11</sup> N m<sup>2</sup>/kg<sup>2</sup></p><p>m = the mass of the planet in kilograms</p><p>r = the distance from the center of the planet, equal to the radius of the planet, in meters</p><p>Put the values of m and r in for Earth (5.98 x 10<sup>24 </sup>kg and 6.38 x 10<sup>6</sup> m, respectively), and you&#8217;ll get right around 9.81 m/s<sup>2</sup>, the accepted value for the Earth&#8217;s gravitational field strength. That means things fall at a rate of 9.8 meters per second, every second they are falling. Everything on earth falls this fast, and yes, air resistance screws it up.</p><p>So how do we get things going for Tiny Earth? Problem solving. What do we have, and what do we need?</p><p>We&#8217;ve got the circumference of Tiny Earth in yards, and that&#8217;s it. We&#8217;ll need to calculate everything for the formula above. Let&#8217;s start with the radius of Tiny Earth.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BpNx!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe87f8c8d-3d1e-4f56-b89a-e2774e37292d_1072x666.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BpNx!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe87f8c8d-3d1e-4f56-b89a-e2774e37292d_1072x666.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BpNx!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe87f8c8d-3d1e-4f56-b89a-e2774e37292d_1072x666.jpeg 848w, 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a small house sit atop the curved surface of Tiny Earth at sunset, emphasizing the planet's extremely small size as it floats in space." title="Rick's spaceship and a small house sit atop the curved surface of Tiny Earth at sunset, emphasizing the planet's extremely small size as it floats in space." srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BpNx!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe87f8c8d-3d1e-4f56-b89a-e2774e37292d_1072x666.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BpNx!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe87f8c8d-3d1e-4f56-b89a-e2774e37292d_1072x666.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BpNx!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe87f8c8d-3d1e-4f56-b89a-e2774e37292d_1072x666.jpeg 1272w, 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One enthusiastic jump, and you're no longer a homeowner&#8212;you're a satellite.</em></figcaption></figure></div><h2><strong>Tiny Earth&#8217;s Tiny Radius</strong></h2><p>We have the circumference of Tiny Earth, so we can work backward using the circumference formula to calculate the radius. Before we do that, we need to get our yards into meters. A quick conversion shows that 330 yards is about 302 meters.</p><p>The circumference of a sphere is the same as the circumference of a circle, so we&#8217;ll use that formula:</p><p style="text-align: center;"><strong>circumference = 2&#960;r</strong></p><p>Rearrange to solve for r:</p><p style="text-align: center;">r = circumference/2&#960;</p><p style="text-align: center;">r = 302/ 2&#960;</p><p style="text-align: center;">radius = 48.0 meters</p><p>Easy. The next part has a couple of steps, and we&#8217;ll need this value for the radius.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/p/rick-and-mortys-tiny-earth-is-a-tiny-death-trap?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.thescienceof.org/p/rick-and-mortys-tiny-earth-is-a-tiny-death-trap?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p><h2><strong>Tiny Earth&#8217;s Tiny Mass</strong></h2><p>This is a stop sign for a lot of my students when I assign something like this in my physics class. I think the big problem is that the answer to the question is so simple, they completely miss it. We need the mass of Tiny Earth, right? We know the radius of Tiny Earth, and from that we can calculate its volume. Remember &#8211; Rick said that these three planets were all at least 90% like Earth. To keep things simple, let&#8217;s assume that Tiny Earth is 100% like Earth (we can tweak those numbers later if we want to, but for now, let&#8217;s just get the problem working&#8230;)</p><p>The Earth is a rocky planet with a known density, and Tiny Earth would have the same density. And as we all learned early on in science, density = mass/volume, and Earth&#8217;s density is 5520 kg/m<sup>3</sup>. Aha.</p><p>So &#8211; what&#8217;s the volume of Tiny Earth? We need the formula for the volume of a sphere:</p><p style="text-align: center;"><strong>v = 4/3 &#960;r<sup>3</sup></strong></p><p>Plug in 48.0 for r, cube it, and complete the calculation.</p><p>Volume of Tiny Earth = 463,240 m<sup>3</sup></p><p>Now for mass:</p><p style="text-align: center;"><strong>Density = mass/volume</strong></p><p style="text-align: center;">mass = (density)(volume)</p><p style="text-align: center;">mass = 2.6 x 10<sup>9</sup> kg</p><p>And like that, we&#8217;re good to go.</p><h2><strong>Tiny Earth&#8217;s Timny Gravity</strong></h2><p>This part is simple &#8211; just plug the values into the gravitational field strength formula up above, and you&#8217;re good to go.</p><p>I&#8217;ll trust you to do the calculation and the appropriate unit cancellation. Be careful &#8211; 9 times out of 10, my students will have everything correct in the set-up and then mess something up in the calculation.</p><p style="text-align: center;"><strong>g = 7.5 x 10<sup>-5</sup> m/s<sup>2</sup></strong></p><p>Wow &#8211; that&#8217;s like&#8230;nothing. Seriously &#8212;  it&#8217;s 0.000075 m/s<sup>2</sup>. You&#8217;d barely notice a thing is falling.</p><p>I mean&#8230;the gravitational field strength on the moon is a relatively robust 1.62 m/s<sup>2</sup>.</p><p>This would affect everything in our reality &#8211; for example, we could easily calculate the escape velocity (how fast you need to move upward in order to escape the gravitational field of Tiny Earth), using the formula:</p><p style="text-align: center;"><strong>v<sub>e</sub> = &#8730;2Gm/r</strong></p><p style="text-align: center;">v<sub>e</sub> = &#8730;2(6.673 x 10<sup>-11</sup>)(2.6&#215;10<sup>9</sup>)/48.0</p><p style="text-align: center;">v<sub>e</sub> = 0.084 m/s, or about 8.4 cm per second.</p><p>Jumping up would be overkill. That&#8217;s waaaay slower than an easy jog (about 3 m/s). If you didn&#8217;t stay still, just walking would get you off Tiny Earth.</p><p>Just for comparison, the Earth&#8217;s escape velocity is 11,184 m/s.</p><p>And the weak gravitational field would also affect how quickly things fall. Applying the free-fall formula under these circumstances, we can show just how wonky that tiny bit of gravity would be if you dropped something from 2 meters (a little less than Rick&#8217;s height) on Tiny Earth:</p><p>The free fall formula:</p><p style="text-align: center;"><strong>x = 1/2 g t<sup>2</sup></strong></p><p>Where:</p><p>x = the distance fallen in meters</p><p>t = time in seconds</p><p>rearranging to solve for time:</p><p style="text-align: center;"><strong>t = &#8730;2x/g</strong></p><p style="text-align: center;">t = 231 seconds, or about 3.9 minutes</p><p>Just for comparison (and using the same formula), on real earth, an object dropped from 2 meters lands about .64 seconds after you drop it.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lxvg!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa286737d-4bab-4522-b138-dd9f86a31a4d_1206x682.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lxvg!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa286737d-4bab-4522-b138-dd9f86a31a4d_1206x682.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lxvg!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa286737d-4bab-4522-b138-dd9f86a31a4d_1206x682.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lxvg!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa286737d-4bab-4522-b138-dd9f86a31a4d_1206x682.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lxvg!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa286737d-4bab-4522-b138-dd9f86a31a4d_1206x682.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lxvg!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa286737d-4bab-4522-b138-dd9f86a31a4d_1206x682.jpeg" width="1206" height="682" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/a286737d-4bab-4522-b138-dd9f86a31a4d_1206x682.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:682,&quot;width&quot;:1206,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:116158,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Rick walks across the surface of Tiny Earth carrying a flag, with tropical vegetation on one side and desert terrain on the other, highlighting the miniature planet's compressed geography.&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/i/202349771?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa286737d-4bab-4522-b138-dd9f86a31a4d_1206x682.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Rick walks across the surface of Tiny Earth carrying a flag, with tropical vegetation on one side and desert terrain on the other, highlighting the miniature planet's compressed geography." title="Rick walks across the surface of Tiny Earth carrying a flag, with tropical vegetation on one side and desert terrain on the other, highlighting the miniature planet's compressed geography." srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lxvg!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa286737d-4bab-4522-b138-dd9f86a31a4d_1206x682.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lxvg!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa286737d-4bab-4522-b138-dd9f86a31a4d_1206x682.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lxvg!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa286737d-4bab-4522-b138-dd9f86a31a4d_1206x682.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lxvg!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa286737d-4bab-4522-b138-dd9f86a31a4d_1206x682.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div 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stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Exploring Tiny Earth isn&#8217;t going to take all day&#8230;</em></figcaption></figure></div><h2><strong>But&#8230;But,&#8230;But&#8230;They Seemed Okay&#8230;</strong></h2><p>Sure &#8212;  the only strange thing was the size of the planet. Rick and the family seemed fine otherwise, or, as we&#8217;re concerned, as if gravity were just fine on Tiny Earth. How would that work?</p><p>Tiny Earth was Tiny Earth, so the size is set. What&#8217;s the only way that the gravitational field strength can change? The mass of Tiny Earth has to change. Normal Earth gravity is 9.8 m/s<sup>2</sup>, so what do we have to do to get Tiny Earth&#8217;s g value up to that same value? Crank that mass. By how much? Let&#8217;s talk math and the formula we used earlier, but this time, we&#8217;re solving for mass, so&#8230;</p><p style="text-align: center;"><strong>g = Gm/r<sup>2</sup></strong></p><p style="text-align: center;">9.8 = (6.673 x 10<sup>-11</sup>)(m)/(48)<sup>2</sup></p><p>Rearrange and solve for mass &#8211; we find that for the gravity of Tiny Earth to be the same as real Earth&#8217;s, the mass will be:</p><p style="text-align: center;">m = 3.39 x 10<sup>14</sup> kg</p><p>Okay &#8211; so what? What can we do with that?</p><p>We can figure out what Tiny Earth was made from. Remember density? If Tiny Earth has the same gravity as Earth, we know what its mass has to be, and its volume hasn&#8217;t changed, so we can calculate the density:</p><p style="text-align: center;"><strong>D = m/v</strong></p><p style="text-align: center;">D = 3.39 x 10<sup>14</sup>/463,247</p><p>Density of Tiny Earth (for normal Earth gravity) = 7.3 x 10<sup>8</sup> kg/m<sup>3</sup></p><p>That&#8217;s basically the same density as a white dwarf star &#8211; a star near the end of its life, with roughly the mass of the Sun and the volume of the Earth.</p><p>Tiny Earth isn&#8217;t very earth-like at all, when it comes down to it.</p><p>If you want to tweak this out and play with values that are, say, 92.3% Earth-like, then you&#8217;re talking about changing the density, which would affect the mass. If you&#8217;re trying to make Tiny Earth work that way, you&#8217;re going the wrong direction &#8211; a smaller mass will only decrease the gravitational field strength, but give it a shot.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WHOh!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd8db2954-54cd-4116-a713-fe3696534bd1_1220x672.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WHOh!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd8db2954-54cd-4116-a713-fe3696534bd1_1220x672.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WHOh!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd8db2954-54cd-4116-a713-fe3696534bd1_1220x672.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WHOh!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd8db2954-54cd-4116-a713-fe3696534bd1_1220x672.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WHOh!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd8db2954-54cd-4116-a713-fe3696534bd1_1220x672.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WHOh!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd8db2954-54cd-4116-a713-fe3696534bd1_1220x672.jpeg" width="1220" height="672" 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Just don&#8217;t jump for joy, though&#8230;</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>But that&#8217;s not quite all &#8211; living on Tiny Earth would be its own horror show. Over at<a href="https://what-if.xkcd.com/68/"> xkcd</a>, Kevin Munroe went into depth about what &#8220;living&#8221; on a tiny earth/rock/asteroid would be like, using The Little Prince as a launching point.</p><p>Gravity obeys the inverse-square law, so the farther away you get from the center of the planet, the more the gravitational field shrinks, so as a result, the gravitational field would have one value at your head and another near your feet. And given the pull of gravity on Tiny Earth, this would be significant.</p><p>How significant?</p><p>Let&#8217;s say you&#8217;re 5 feet, 9 inches tall (1.75 meters).</p><p>So&#8230;</p><ul><li><p>Feet: 48.00 m from the center</p></li><li><p>Head: 49.75 m from the center</p></li></ul><p>A mathematical representation of the inverse -square law looks like:</p><p style="text-align: center;">g &#8733; 1/r<sup>2</sup></p><p>Or, the force of gravity decreases by the square of the radius, twice as far from the center as your pal, you feel &#188; as much (twice as far = 2x, 2<sup>2</sup> = 4). So&#8230;</p><p>ghead&#8203;=9.81(49.7548&#8203;)2</p><p>ghead&#8203;=9.13 m/s2</p><p>Or roughly, 0.93g, while your feet are living in 1.00 g.</p><p>Sure, it&#8217;s only 7% weaker at your head, but that 7% difference is 140,000 times larger than the difference you feel on earth.</p><p>What would it feel like?</p><p>It wound&#8217;t be like you were being torn apart, but it would feel weird. Your circulatory system evolved to work against Earth&#8217;s very gentle gravity gradient. On Tiny Earth:</p><ul><li><p>Blood would tend to pool differently.</p></li><li><p>Standing upright might feel strange.</p></li><li><p>Jumping could feel unstable.</p></li><li><p>Tossing a ball upward would produce visibly different motion than you&#8217;re used to.</p></li></ul><p>On Tiny Earth, gravity would be weird however you want to slice it. Your head and feet would experience measurably different gravitational pulls if it has the same gravity as Earth, or, if it had gravity that follows the rules we&#8217;re used to, dropped objects would take minutes to hit the ground, and an enthusiastic leap could send you drifting off into space.</p><p>In other words, looking at it through the lens of our world&#8217;s science, Rick&#8217;s replacement Earth isn&#8217;t really an Earth at all. It&#8217;s a tiny, adorable death trap.</p><p><em>Is looking at Rick and Morty&#8217;s science your idea of a good time? I gotchu! I wrote a whole book all about it a few years back &#8212;  you can get your copy <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-science-of-rick-and-morty-the-unofficial-guide-to-earth-s-stupidest-show-matt-brady/be218c96464cec19?ean=9781982123123&amp;next=t">here</a>, or wherever books are sold.</em></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Hulk Smash Science #2: Rock Smash Hulk]]></title><description><![CDATA[How accurate is Hulk Smash Everything #2? From the Chicxulub impact to early mammals and human evolution, we follow the science behind Hulk's time-travel disaster.]]></description><link>https://www.thescienceof.org/p/hulk-smash-science-2-rock-smash-hulk</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.thescienceof.org/p/hulk-smash-science-2-rock-smash-hulk</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt Brady]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2026 12:03:51 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DOyb!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F62580862-4d89-403f-8a2b-02d65dc33391_620x956.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.thescienceof.org/p/hulk-smash-science-dinosaurs-deep-time">Last time in our look at the science of Ryan North&#8217;s amazing </a><em><a href="https://www.thescienceof.org/p/hulk-smash-science-dinosaurs-deep-time">Hulk Smash Everything</a></em><a href="https://www.thescienceof.org/p/hulk-smash-science-dinosaurs-deep-time"> </a>miniseries, we focused on issue #1 and checked out the location, the dinosaurs the Hulk was fighting, and the big thing in the sky that was heading towards the Earth.</p><p>And it all checked out nicely &#8212; in an effort to rid himself of his nemesis once and for all, the Leader sent the Hulk back in time, 66 or so million years ago, to the Yucat&#225;n region, just in time for the Chicxulub (pronounced &#8220;chick-shaloob&#8221;) Impactor to hit. The dinosaurs the Hulk was fighting were appropriate for the time period, the location was right, and everything looked good.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.thescienceof.org/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p>Actually, bad for the Hulk. The asteroid that wiped out the dinosaurs was coming, visible in the sky. The Cretaceous Period, the last act of the Mesozoic Era and the Age of Dinosaurs, was about to end in spectacular fashion.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DOyb!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F62580862-4d89-403f-8a2b-02d65dc33391_620x956.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DOyb!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F62580862-4d89-403f-8a2b-02d65dc33391_620x956.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DOyb!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F62580862-4d89-403f-8a2b-02d65dc33391_620x956.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DOyb!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F62580862-4d89-403f-8a2b-02d65dc33391_620x956.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DOyb!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F62580862-4d89-403f-8a2b-02d65dc33391_620x956.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DOyb!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F62580862-4d89-403f-8a2b-02d65dc33391_620x956.jpeg" width="506" height="780.2193548387097" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/62580862-4d89-403f-8a2b-02d65dc33391_620x956.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:956,&quot;width&quot;:620,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:506,&quot;bytes&quot;:253512,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Cover of Hulk Smash Everything #2 showing the Hulk facing a giant purple dinosaur-like predator as fiery debris from the Chicxulub asteroid impact streaks across the sky. The Hulk braces for battle amid explosions, flying rock fragments, and glowing meteors, while the dinosaur lunges forward with its jaws open. The title \&quot;Hulk Smash Everything\&quot; dominates the top of the cover.&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:true,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/i/201642859?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F62580862-4d89-403f-8a2b-02d65dc33391_620x956.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Cover of Hulk Smash Everything #2 showing the Hulk facing a giant purple dinosaur-like predator as fiery debris from the Chicxulub asteroid impact streaks across the sky. The Hulk braces for battle amid explosions, flying rock fragments, and glowing meteors, while the dinosaur lunges forward with its jaws open. The title &quot;Hulk Smash Everything&quot; dominates the top of the cover." title="Cover of Hulk Smash Everything #2 showing the Hulk facing a giant purple dinosaur-like predator as fiery debris from the Chicxulub asteroid impact streaks across the sky. The Hulk braces for battle amid explosions, flying rock fragments, and glowing meteors, while the dinosaur lunges forward with its jaws open. The title &quot;Hulk Smash Everything&quot; dominates the top of the cover." srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DOyb!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F62580862-4d89-403f-8a2b-02d65dc33391_620x956.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DOyb!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F62580862-4d89-403f-8a2b-02d65dc33391_620x956.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DOyb!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F62580862-4d89-403f-8a2b-02d65dc33391_620x956.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DOyb!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F62580862-4d89-403f-8a2b-02d65dc33391_620x956.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Hulk Smash Everything (including dinosaur teeth) #2 (all comic art, Marvel Comics)</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>So here&#8217;s how things start off&#8230;</p><h1><strong>Rock Smash Hulk</strong></h1><p>The Hulk (strongest one there is) is still fighting the dinosaurs he met at the end of the last issue (note: the Leader&#8217;s really flexing his intelligence here by pinpointing the time within an hour or two of the asteroid hitting Earth), and then, the impact.</p><p>Everything close to the impact site is instantly vaporized. Best research suggests that the rock that hit Earth was between 10 and 15 km across (6&#8211;9 miles), with a mass of roughly a trillion metric tons, traveling at about 20 kilometers per second, or roughly 45,000 miles per hour. It was most likely a clumpy mass of carbon-rich rock that originally called a region of our solar system beyond Jupiter home before it came in for a close-up look at Earth. Don&#8217;t ignore that speed &#8212;  moving that fast, it could&#8217;ve crossed the United States in 4 minutes. Or, more importantly, when dinosaur eyes registered the flash of impact, the crater was already excavated.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2H4C!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F20f7c882-aa44-4418-a2e2-d49cb0e34a85_1640x1274.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2H4C!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F20f7c882-aa44-4418-a2e2-d49cb0e34a85_1640x1274.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2H4C!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F20f7c882-aa44-4418-a2e2-d49cb0e34a85_1640x1274.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2H4C!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F20f7c882-aa44-4418-a2e2-d49cb0e34a85_1640x1274.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2H4C!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F20f7c882-aa44-4418-a2e2-d49cb0e34a85_1640x1274.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2H4C!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F20f7c882-aa44-4418-a2e2-d49cb0e34a85_1640x1274.jpeg" width="616" height="478.5" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/20f7c882-aa44-4418-a2e2-d49cb0e34a85_1640x1274.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1131,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:616,&quot;bytes&quot;:921328,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Several dinosaurs flee through a tropical forest as fiery ejecta and shockwaves from the Chicxulub asteroid impact rain down around them. Explosions erupt across the landscape, skeletons and debris are thrown into the air, and the sky glows red-orange with fire as the mass extinction event unfolds.&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/i/201642859?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F20f7c882-aa44-4418-a2e2-d49cb0e34a85_1640x1274.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Several dinosaurs flee through a tropical forest as fiery ejecta and shockwaves from the Chicxulub asteroid impact rain down around them. 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Explosions erupt across the landscape, skeletons and debris are thrown into the air, and the sky glows red-orange with fire as the mass extinction event unfolds." srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2H4C!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F20f7c882-aa44-4418-a2e2-d49cb0e34a85_1640x1274.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2H4C!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F20f7c882-aa44-4418-a2e2-d49cb0e34a85_1640x1274.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2H4C!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F20f7c882-aa44-4418-a2e2-d49cb0e34a85_1640x1274.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2H4C!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F20f7c882-aa44-4418-a2e2-d49cb0e34a85_1640x1274.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>The asteroid didn't kill all the dinosaurs at once. First came the flash. Then the fire. Then the desperate sprint for survival. For a brief moment, creatures that had ruled Earth for more than 160 million years found themselves running from something they couldn't fight, outrun, or even understand.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>I still love the fact that if you look up &#8220;<a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=the+Chixculub+impactor&amp;oq=the+Chixculub+impactor&amp;gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIJCAEQABgNGIAEMggIAhAAGBYYHjIICAMQABgWGB4yCAgEEAAYFhgeMggIBRAAGBYYHjIICAYQABgWGB4yCAgHEAAYFhgeMggICBAAGBYYHjIICAkQABgWGB7SAQgzODE4ajBqN6gCALACAA&amp;sourceid=chrome&amp;ie=UTF-8">Chixculub Impactor</a>&#8221; on Google, the results pop up, an asteroid streaks across your screen, and the screen shakes with the impact.</p><p>The force of the asteroid&#8217;s impact cannot be overstated. It was so massive and moving so fast that when it struck the Yucat&#225;n Peninsula, it <em>vaporized</em>.  Quick science lesson: think of it like an ice cube. You can heat an ice cube until it melts, and if you keep adding heat, you can boil the water, turning it into vapor. In a beaker or on your stove, it takes time for the energy to do its job. Now imagine skipping over the whole &#8220;solid turns to liquid, and then the liquid warms up&#8221; part and putting enough energy into the ice to turn it into a gas in less than a second.</p><p>That&#8217;s scary. And the asteroid had enough energy to do that and more.</p><blockquote><p><strong>Fun Fact</strong>: We know a lot about the impact. For instance, we know that the asteroid came in at a steep angle, probably around 60&#176; relative to the impact surface. This was probably the worst possible angle it could have had. As a result, it blasted up more debris and vaporized more of the site than a shallower angle would have. We also know that the impactor hit during Northern Hemisphere spring, thanks to fossil evidence.  This was a particularly bad time, as life was just starting up for the season&#8212;eggs were being laid, and trees and plants were flowering and kicking off their annual growth. And if the impact had happened just three hours later, the asteroid would not have struck the shallow sea covering the Yucat&#225;n region, but rather the deep Pacific Ocean, and things probably would have gone very differently. And finally, when the <strong>leading edge hit the ground</strong>, the trailing edge was still about <strong>10 km above the surface</strong> - just about the altitude for airlines.</p></blockquote><p>The crater from the impact is 180 kilometers in diameter (110 miles), but again, there&#8217;s nothing of the actual asteroid left down there. Just some broken and buckled bedrock that attests to the energy of the impact and its angle.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PAYZ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4d499ce4-3641-4a57-9617-b337fef59c04_889x829.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PAYZ!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4d499ce4-3641-4a57-9617-b337fef59c04_889x829.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PAYZ!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4d499ce4-3641-4a57-9617-b337fef59c04_889x829.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PAYZ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4d499ce4-3641-4a57-9617-b337fef59c04_889x829.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PAYZ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4d499ce4-3641-4a57-9617-b337fef59c04_889x829.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PAYZ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4d499ce4-3641-4a57-9617-b337fef59c04_889x829.jpeg" width="588" height="548.3149606299213" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/4d499ce4-3641-4a57-9617-b337fef59c04_889x829.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:829,&quot;width&quot;:889,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:588,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Satellite map of the Gulf of Mexico showing the location of the Chicxulub impact crater beneath the Yucat&#225;n Peninsula in Mexico. A white circle marks the approximate impact site responsible for the mass extinction event that ended the Cretaceous Period 66 million years ago. &quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Satellite map of the Gulf of Mexico showing the location of the Chicxulub impact crater beneath the Yucat&#225;n Peninsula in Mexico. A white circle marks the approximate impact site responsible for the mass extinction event that ended the Cretaceous Period 66 million years ago. " title="Satellite map of the Gulf of Mexico showing the location of the Chicxulub impact crater beneath the Yucat&#225;n Peninsula in Mexico. A white circle marks the approximate impact site responsible for the mass extinction event that ended the Cretaceous Period 66 million years ago. " srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PAYZ!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4d499ce4-3641-4a57-9617-b337fef59c04_889x829.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PAYZ!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4d499ce4-3641-4a57-9617-b337fef59c04_889x829.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PAYZ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4d499ce4-3641-4a57-9617-b337fef59c04_889x829.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PAYZ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4d499ce4-3641-4a57-9617-b337fef59c04_889x829.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Ground zero. The Chicxulub impact crater lies buried beneath Mexico's Yucat&#225;n Peninsula, marking the spot where a 10&#8211;15 km asteroid ended the Age of Dinosaurs 66 million years ago. (image: Jackson School of Geosciences, The University of  Texas at Austin)</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>One of the reasons the impact was so devastating comes from the same adage used in real estate: location, location, location.  The impact site was loaded with sulfur-rich bedrock, and much of it vaporized along with the asteroid. This resulted in sulfur compounds (sulfur dioxide, sulfur trioxide, and others), along with carbon compounds (lots of carbon dioxide) and soot, being blasted into the atmosphere.</p><p>After getting cooked and regrowing tissue a few times, the Hulk (who somehow survived being near ground zero) leaps himself out of there.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/p/hulk-smash-science-2-rock-smash-hulk?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.thescienceof.org/p/hulk-smash-science-2-rock-smash-hulk?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p><h1><strong>After the Impact</strong></h1><p>While the Hulk was right to get as far away as he could from the impact site, in reality, it probably didn&#8217;t matter much. Earth was hell.</p><p>It&#8217;s not entirely clear how long the Hulk was jumping around post-impact (&#8220;After what feels like an eternity&#8230;&#8221;), but he wouldn&#8217;t have found safety anywhere. In the immediate hours to days after the impact, materials that had been blasted into the upper atmosphere&#8212;the ejecta&#8212;would be falling back to Earth. As the material fell, it compressed the air beneath it, heating both the air and the material itself (for more on this, check out the article about the <a href="https://www.thescienceof.org/p/artemis-reentry-plasma-flash-speed-force">Artemis II reentry and the Flash running really fast</a>).</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JRAV!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff1511a87-a6f6-4c58-9fb4-e0151aea8a8b_428x208.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JRAV!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff1511a87-a6f6-4c58-9fb4-e0151aea8a8b_428x208.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JRAV!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff1511a87-a6f6-4c58-9fb4-e0151aea8a8b_428x208.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JRAV!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff1511a87-a6f6-4c58-9fb4-e0151aea8a8b_428x208.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JRAV!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff1511a87-a6f6-4c58-9fb4-e0151aea8a8b_428x208.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JRAV!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff1511a87-a6f6-4c58-9fb4-e0151aea8a8b_428x208.jpeg" width="548" height="266.31775700934577" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/f1511a87-a6f6-4c58-9fb4-e0151aea8a8b_428x208.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:208,&quot;width&quot;:428,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:548,&quot;bytes&quot;:39205,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Comic panel showing the Hulk leaping across a devastated landscape shortly after the Chicxulub asteroid impact. Fiery debris streaks across an orange-red sky while ejecta slams into the ground around him. A caption notes that what felt like an eternity may not have been long at all as the Hulk flees the global catastrophe unfolding across Earth.&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/i/201642859?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff1511a87-a6f6-4c58-9fb4-e0151aea8a8b_428x208.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Comic panel showing the Hulk leaping across a devastated landscape shortly after the Chicxulub asteroid impact. Fiery debris streaks across an orange-red sky while ejecta slams into the ground around him. A caption notes that what felt like an eternity may not have been long at all as the Hulk flees the global catastrophe unfolding across Earth." title="Comic panel showing the Hulk leaping across a devastated landscape shortly after the Chicxulub asteroid impact. Fiery debris streaks across an orange-red sky while ejecta slams into the ground around him. A caption notes that what felt like an eternity may not have been long at all as the Hulk flees the global catastrophe unfolding across Earth." srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JRAV!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff1511a87-a6f6-4c58-9fb4-e0151aea8a8b_428x208.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JRAV!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff1511a87-a6f6-4c58-9fb4-e0151aea8a8b_428x208.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JRAV!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff1511a87-a6f6-4c58-9fb4-e0151aea8a8b_428x208.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JRAV!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff1511a87-a6f6-4c58-9fb4-e0151aea8a8b_428x208.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>The Hulk survives ground zero. Unfortunately for him, so does the extinction. Escaping the impact crater only means trading instant vaporization for a planet-wide disaster of fire, darkness, and collapse.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>There&#8217;s still debate about exactly how hot it got and what that meant for life on Earth, but many dinosaurs were likely broiled to death, and much of Earth&#8217;s vegetation burned, releasing even more soot and carbon dioxide. During that time, it would have felt like you were inside a toaster oven, with the sky glowing red as millions of tons of material fell back toward the ground. And fires surrounded you. Extinction Wave #1.</p><p>Understandably, it would make the Hulk mad.</p><p>Then, things get really bad. After Earth&#8217;s temperature setting comes down from &#8220;broil,&#8221; all of the sulfur compounds and other particulate matter that remain airborne reduce the amount of sunlight reaching the surface, cooling the planet and wiping out even more plants (and, by extension, the herbivores and carnivores that depended on them). The oceans cooled as well, taking out many organisms that had been lucky enough to survive the immediate effects of the impact. All told: Extinction Wave #2.</p><p>But despite being dealt one of the worst hands imaginable, life somehow endures. Animals that could burrow, retreat deep enough into the water, or survive as scavengers&#8212;and those that were simply too mean to die (crocodiles, I&#8217;m looking at <em>you</em>)&#8212;eked out an existence and endured.</p><p>And for some of those poor creatures, the Hulk finds them.</p><blockquote><p>Fun Fact: That stuff that fell from the sky after the impact&#8212;the soot from burning forests, particulates, and even the vapor that once made up the asteroid&#8212;settled all over Earth and is still around today.  In some locations, if you know where to look, you can spot the line of dark material sandwiched between other layers of rock. This thin band of dark clay, often only a few centimeters thick, is called the K&#8211;Pg Boundary. In the rock layers below the K&#8211;Pg Boundary, you find fossils of the large non-avian dinosaurs. Above it, none. It&#8217;s a bookmark in Earth&#8217;s history, a physical reminder of one of the worst days our planet has ever experienced. It&#8217;s distinctive because of the combination of elements it contains&#8212;particularly iridium, which is rare in Earth&#8217;s crust but relatively common in asteroids.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FU6Z!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe8637e57-3193-4a5b-9671-ea47a765431a_960x1287.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FU6Z!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe8637e57-3193-4a5b-9671-ea47a765431a_960x1287.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FU6Z!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe8637e57-3193-4a5b-9671-ea47a765431a_960x1287.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FU6Z!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe8637e57-3193-4a5b-9671-ea47a765431a_960x1287.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FU6Z!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe8637e57-3193-4a5b-9671-ea47a765431a_960x1287.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FU6Z!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe8637e57-3193-4a5b-9671-ea47a765431a_960x1287.jpeg" width="538" height="721.25625" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/e8637e57-3193-4a5b-9671-ea47a765431a_960x1287.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1287,&quot;width&quot;:960,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:538,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Physicist Luis Alvarez and geologist Walter Alvarez stand beside an exposed rock outcrop in Gubbio, Italy, pointing to the thin clay layer that marks the K&#8211;Pg (formerly K&#8211;T) Boundary. Their work on this distinctive geologic layer, enriched in iridium, led to the groundbreaking hypothesis that a massive asteroid impact caused the extinction that ended the Age of Dinosaurs 66 million years ago.&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Physicist Luis Alvarez and geologist Walter Alvarez stand beside an exposed rock outcrop in Gubbio, Italy, pointing to the thin clay layer that marks the K&#8211;Pg (formerly K&#8211;T) Boundary. Their work on this distinctive geologic layer, enriched in iridium, led to the groundbreaking hypothesis that a massive asteroid impact caused the extinction that ended the Age of Dinosaurs 66 million years ago." title="Physicist Luis Alvarez and geologist Walter Alvarez stand beside an exposed rock outcrop in Gubbio, Italy, pointing to the thin clay layer that marks the K&#8211;Pg (formerly K&#8211;T) Boundary. Their work on this distinctive geologic layer, enriched in iridium, led to the groundbreaking hypothesis that a massive asteroid impact caused the extinction that ended the Age of Dinosaurs 66 million years ago." srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FU6Z!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe8637e57-3193-4a5b-9671-ea47a765431a_960x1287.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FU6Z!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe8637e57-3193-4a5b-9671-ea47a765431a_960x1287.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FU6Z!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe8637e57-3193-4a5b-9671-ea47a765431a_960x1287.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FU6Z!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe8637e57-3193-4a5b-9671-ea47a765431a_960x1287.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>That&#8217;s Luis on the left and Walter on the right, at theK-Pg Boundary in Gubbio, Italy in 1981. (photo courtesy of Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (LBNL)</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>The initial suggestion that the K&#8211;Pg Boundary represented an asteroid impact came from physicist Luis Alvarez and his son, geologist Walter Alvarez, in the late 1970s. Based on its composition, they proposed that a roughly 10-km-wide asteroid had struck Earth 66 million years ago. Remarkably, Alvarez and his colleagues advanced <a href="https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.208.4448.1095">the hypothesis</a> before the Chicxulub crater was identified, and later crater research largely confirmed their estimates of the impactor&#8217;s size. There is still debate about some of the details and methods because... <em>science</em>.</p></blockquote><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.thescienceof.org/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><h1><strong>Please Don&#8217;t Kill Our Ancestors</strong></h1><p>At some point after all his jumping, the Hulk lands near a dead dinosaur being nibbled on by a group of small mammals. Yes, mammals. They existed alongside dinosaurs right up until the end of the Cretaceous.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!z8Ax!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F23ea09ef-965f-4a9a-946f-45802a5d1d8f_1487x1034.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!z8Ax!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F23ea09ef-965f-4a9a-946f-45802a5d1d8f_1487x1034.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!z8Ax!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F23ea09ef-965f-4a9a-946f-45802a5d1d8f_1487x1034.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!z8Ax!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F23ea09ef-965f-4a9a-946f-45802a5d1d8f_1487x1034.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!z8Ax!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F23ea09ef-965f-4a9a-946f-45802a5d1d8f_1487x1034.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!z8Ax!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F23ea09ef-965f-4a9a-946f-45802a5d1d8f_1487x1034.jpeg" width="1456" height="1012" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/23ea09ef-965f-4a9a-946f-45802a5d1d8f_1487x1034.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1012,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:594027,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Comic panel from Hulk Smash Everything #2 showing the Hulk discovering several small mammal survivors feeding on the carcass of a dead animal after the Chicxulub impact. The rat-sized, rodent-like mammals scavenge in a devastated post-apocalyptic landscape while the Hulk approaches. The scene represents the kinds of small mammals that survived the mass extinction and eventually gave rise to many modern mammal lineages, including the ancestors of humans.&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/i/201642859?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F23ea09ef-965f-4a9a-946f-45802a5d1d8f_1487x1034.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Comic panel from Hulk Smash Everything #2 showing the Hulk discovering several small mammal survivors feeding on the carcass of a dead animal after the Chicxulub impact. The rat-sized, rodent-like mammals scavenge in a devastated post-apocalyptic landscape while the Hulk approaches. The scene represents the kinds of small mammals that survived the mass extinction and eventually gave rise to many modern mammal lineages, including the ancestors of humans." title="Comic panel from Hulk Smash Everything #2 showing the Hulk discovering several small mammal survivors feeding on the carcass of a dead animal after the Chicxulub impact. The rat-sized, rodent-like mammals scavenge in a devastated post-apocalyptic landscape while the Hulk approaches. The scene represents the kinds of small mammals that survived the mass extinction and eventually gave rise to many modern mammal lineages, including the ancestors of humans." srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!z8Ax!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F23ea09ef-965f-4a9a-946f-45802a5d1d8f_1487x1034.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!z8Ax!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F23ea09ef-965f-4a9a-946f-45802a5d1d8f_1487x1034.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!z8Ax!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F23ea09ef-965f-4a9a-946f-45802a5d1d8f_1487x1034.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!z8Ax!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F23ea09ef-965f-4a9a-946f-45802a5d1d8f_1487x1034.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Meet the winners. While the dinosaurs were vanishing and the planet was busy trying to kill everything, these tiny scavengers were doing what survivors do: finding food, staying hidden, and hanging on. Sixty-six million years later, one branch of their family tree would be reading comic books.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>You may think the image is showing rats, and that&#8217;s what the Hulk calls them, but they are definitely <em>not </em>rats. Rats didn&#8217;t arrive on the scene until roughly 3 to 5 million years ago.  More likely, what the Hulk sees is a representative visual of several types of mammals that were around at the time, such as: </p><p><strong>Protungulatum</strong> - early placental mammal</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Y2uw!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3e478637-5004-4021-98f7-9f9b41d5d227_700x466.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Y2uw!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3e478637-5004-4021-98f7-9f9b41d5d227_700x466.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Y2uw!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3e478637-5004-4021-98f7-9f9b41d5d227_700x466.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Y2uw!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3e478637-5004-4021-98f7-9f9b41d5d227_700x466.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Y2uw!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3e478637-5004-4021-98f7-9f9b41d5d227_700x466.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Y2uw!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3e478637-5004-4021-98f7-9f9b41d5d227_700x466.jpeg" width="572" height="380.7885714285714" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/3e478637-5004-4021-98f7-9f9b41d5d227_700x466.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:466,&quot;width&quot;:700,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:572,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Reconstruction of Protungulatum, an early placental mammal that lived shortly after the Chicxulub asteroid impact. The small, rat-sized animal stands on a tree branch in a forest environment while feeding on an insect, illustrating the type of adaptable mammal that survived the end-Cretaceous mass extinction and may represent one of the earliest members of the placental mammal lineage.&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Reconstruction of Protungulatum, an early placental mammal that lived shortly after the Chicxulub asteroid impact. The small, rat-sized animal stands on a tree branch in a forest environment while feeding on an insect, illustrating the type of adaptable mammal that survived the end-Cretaceous mass extinction and may represent one of the earliest members of the placental mammal lineage." title="Reconstruction of Protungulatum, an early placental mammal that lived shortly after the Chicxulub asteroid impact. The small, rat-sized animal stands on a tree branch in a forest environment while feeding on an insect, illustrating the type of adaptable mammal that survived the end-Cretaceous mass extinction and may represent one of the earliest members of the placental mammal lineage." srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Y2uw!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3e478637-5004-4021-98f7-9f9b41d5d227_700x466.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Y2uw!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3e478637-5004-4021-98f7-9f9b41d5d227_700x466.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Y2uw!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3e478637-5004-4021-98f7-9f9b41d5d227_700x466.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Y2uw!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3e478637-5004-4021-98f7-9f9b41d5d227_700x466.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em><a href="https://www.upi.com/Science_News/2013/02/08/Earliest-mammal-ancestor-described/86481360354658/#google_vignette">(UPI.com)</a></em></figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>Purgatorius</strong> &#8211; possibly one of the earliest primate relatives, and</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uncb!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1b4bf6fb-0ec0-46ce-8130-318dcde8c4a5_800x519.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uncb!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1b4bf6fb-0ec0-46ce-8130-318dcde8c4a5_800x519.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uncb!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1b4bf6fb-0ec0-46ce-8130-318dcde8c4a5_800x519.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uncb!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1b4bf6fb-0ec0-46ce-8130-318dcde8c4a5_800x519.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uncb!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1b4bf6fb-0ec0-46ce-8130-318dcde8c4a5_800x519.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uncb!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1b4bf6fb-0ec0-46ce-8130-318dcde8c4a5_800x519.jpeg" width="590" height="382.7625" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/1b4bf6fb-0ec0-46ce-8130-318dcde8c4a5_800x519.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:519,&quot;width&quot;:800,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:590,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Scientific reconstruction of Purgatorius, a small tree-dwelling mammal that lived shortly after the Chicxulub asteroid impact. Often considered one of the earliest known primate relatives, Purgatorius had grasping limbs and adaptations for climbing, representing a possible early branch of the lineage that would eventually give rise to monkeys, apes, and humans.&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Scientific reconstruction of Purgatorius, a small tree-dwelling mammal that lived shortly after the Chicxulub asteroid impact. Often considered one of the earliest known primate relatives, Purgatorius had grasping limbs and adaptations for climbing, representing a possible early branch of the lineage that would eventually give rise to monkeys, apes, and humans." title="Scientific reconstruction of Purgatorius, a small tree-dwelling mammal that lived shortly after the Chicxulub asteroid impact. Often considered one of the earliest known primate relatives, Purgatorius had grasping limbs and adaptations for climbing, representing a possible early branch of the lineage that would eventually give rise to monkeys, apes, and humans." srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uncb!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1b4bf6fb-0ec0-46ce-8130-318dcde8c4a5_800x519.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uncb!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1b4bf6fb-0ec0-46ce-8130-318dcde8c4a5_800x519.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uncb!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1b4bf6fb-0ec0-46ce-8130-318dcde8c4a5_800x519.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uncb!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1b4bf6fb-0ec0-46ce-8130-318dcde8c4a5_800x519.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purgatorius">(image, &#169; N. Tamora, Wikipedia, Creative Commons)</a></em></figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>Multituberculates </strong>&#8212; rodent-like mammals that survived the extinction remarkably well</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!J1qz!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0d9dc213-1b41-4391-b388-5a80dd1c614f_1080x632.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!J1qz!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0d9dc213-1b41-4391-b388-5a80dd1c614f_1080x632.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!J1qz!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0d9dc213-1b41-4391-b388-5a80dd1c614f_1080x632.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!J1qz!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0d9dc213-1b41-4391-b388-5a80dd1c614f_1080x632.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!J1qz!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0d9dc213-1b41-4391-b388-5a80dd1c614f_1080x632.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!J1qz!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0d9dc213-1b41-4391-b388-5a80dd1c614f_1080x632.png" width="624" height="365.15555555555557" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/0d9dc213-1b41-4391-b388-5a80dd1c614f_1080x632.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:632,&quot;width&quot;:1080,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:624,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Scientific reconstruction of a multituberculate mammal, a diverse group of rodent-like mammals that survived the Chicxulub mass extinction and flourished during the early Age of Mammals. The small, furry animal is shown moving through a muddy environment, illustrating one of the adaptable mammal lineages that endured after the dinosaurs disappeared and occupied ecological niches left vacant by the extinction event.&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Scientific reconstruction of a multituberculate mammal, a diverse group of rodent-like mammals that survived the Chicxulub mass extinction and flourished during the early Age of Mammals. 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The small, furry animal is shown moving through a muddy environment, illustrating one of the adaptable mammal lineages that endured after the dinosaurs disappeared and occupied ecological niches left vacant by the extinction event." srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!J1qz!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0d9dc213-1b41-4391-b388-5a80dd1c614f_1080x632.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!J1qz!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0d9dc213-1b41-4391-b388-5a80dd1c614f_1080x632.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!J1qz!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0d9dc213-1b41-4391-b388-5a80dd1c614f_1080x632.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!J1qz!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0d9dc213-1b41-4391-b388-5a80dd1c614f_1080x632.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em><a href="https://medium.com/fossils-et-al/paleontologists-discover-a-new-multituberculate-species-in-portuguese-jurassic-deposits-d16fb330dd6a">(Credit: Victor Carvalho in Carvalho et al. 2025)</a></em></figcaption></figure></div><p>They were all rodent-like in the sense that they could reproduce quickly, burrow, survive on small energy budgets, and eat almost anything.</p><p>Including a dead dinosaur.</p><p>In fact, if you let the evolutionary tree grow from small mammals like the ones the Hulk spots&#8212;mammals that are about to become very important to our story&#8212;it might look something like this:</p><p>66 million years ago<br> &#8594; small mammal survivor</p><p>60 million years ago<br> &#8594; early placental mammals</p><p>55&#8211;60 million years ago<br> &#8594; primate lineage emerges</p><p>40 million years ago<br> &#8594; early anthropoid primates</p><p>20&#8211;25 million years ago<br> &#8594; apes</p><p>6&#8211;7 million years ago<br> &#8594; last common ancestor of humans and chimpanzees</p><p>300,000 years ago<br> &#8594; <strong>Homo sapiens. Yay!</strong></p><p>The big idea here is that, with the non-avian dinosaurs out of the way (and the theropods doing their own thing, thanks guys), mammals were able to explode into thousands of different forms, each finding a niche in the biosphere left vacant by the impact.</p><p>It just so happens that the Hulk (still angry and looking to smash) showed up near a group that was incredibly important to the branch that would eventually lead to us.</p><p>Seeing our distant ancestors, the Hulk&#8230;</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_YIv!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0df8f4e9-963c-475e-a49a-da7f8bf6e37b_1491x1304.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_YIv!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0df8f4e9-963c-475e-a49a-da7f8bf6e37b_1491x1304.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_YIv!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0df8f4e9-963c-475e-a49a-da7f8bf6e37b_1491x1304.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_YIv!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0df8f4e9-963c-475e-a49a-da7f8bf6e37b_1491x1304.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_YIv!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0df8f4e9-963c-475e-a49a-da7f8bf6e37b_1491x1304.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_YIv!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0df8f4e9-963c-475e-a49a-da7f8bf6e37b_1491x1304.jpeg" width="582" height="508.85027472527474" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/0df8f4e9-963c-475e-a49a-da7f8bf6e37b_1491x1304.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1273,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:582,&quot;bytes&quot;:853346,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Comic panel from Hulk Smash Everything #2 showing multiple Hulks smashing several small mammal survivors shortly after the Chicxulub impact. The Hulk refers to the animals as rats while crushing them in a devastated post-extinction landscape. In the story, these mammals represent the kinds of early placental mammals whose descendants would eventually include primates and humans, causing a temporal crisis when they are killed.&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/i/201642859?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0df8f4e9-963c-475e-a49a-da7f8bf6e37b_1491x1304.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Comic panel from Hulk Smash Everything #2 showing multiple Hulks smashing several small mammal survivors shortly after the Chicxulub impact. The Hulk refers to the animals as rats while crushing them in a devastated post-extinction landscape. In the story, these mammals represent the kinds of early placental mammals whose descendants would eventually include primates and humans, causing a temporal crisis when they are killed." title="Comic panel from Hulk Smash Everything #2 showing multiple Hulks smashing several small mammal survivors shortly after the Chicxulub impact. The Hulk refers to the animals as rats while crushing them in a devastated post-extinction landscape. In the story, these mammals represent the kinds of early placental mammals whose descendants would eventually include primates and humans, causing a temporal crisis when they are killed." srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_YIv!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0df8f4e9-963c-475e-a49a-da7f8bf6e37b_1491x1304.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_YIv!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0df8f4e9-963c-475e-a49a-da7f8bf6e37b_1491x1304.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_YIv!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0df8f4e9-963c-475e-a49a-da7f8bf6e37b_1491x1304.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_YIv!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0df8f4e9-963c-475e-a49a-da7f8bf6e37b_1491x1304.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>And there goes humanity. The Hulk calls them rats, but the science is worse: these are exactly the kind of small post-impact mammals that would eventually give rise to primates, apes, and us.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>&#8230;smashes them. Great.</p><p>You kind of want to side with the Leader here, don&#8217;t you?</p><h1><strong>If Not Us, Then Who?</strong></h1><p>In the present, immediately after the smashing of our early ancestors by the Hulk, the Leader feels a temporal wave&#8230;one of a variety of hand-wavey time-travel conventions in science fiction that suggest changes in the deep past are only reflected in the present when they serve the plot. Quickly realizing that the Hulk somehow survived the asteroid impact, he jumps back 66 million years to make things right.</p><p>But wait&#8212; let&#8217;s just say, for a second, that he didn&#8217;t get to the time platform in&#8230;time, and the present reshaped itself around the past where the Hulk smashed the early placental mammals that were our ancient ancestors. Ignoring the idea that, if the Hulk stopped humans from existing, he would have stopped himself from existing and therefore wouldn&#8217;t have been around to smash the small ancestor mammals in the first place (I know, big ask)...what would the &#8220;present&#8221; be like?</p><p>So, take a peek outside the Leader&#8217;s base in the &#8220;present,&#8221; where the Hulk has destroyed all chance of primates evolving. What would you see?</p><p>Birds. Lots and lots of birds.</p><p>Smaller <strong>theropods</strong>, small feathered dinosaurs, were on the rise before the impact and survived after. Even the Leader pointed it out, saying later that the impact wiped out all &#8220;non-avian dinosaurs.&#8221; With mammals around as evolutionary competition, those surviving theropods evolved into the more than 10,000 species of birds known today.  Without mammals competing for resources and ecological niches? Oh, they&#8217;d run the joint.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MoAg!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9d58445f-836d-4c14-bbf4-824b02fc9011_800x537.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MoAg!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9d58445f-836d-4c14-bbf4-824b02fc9011_800x537.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MoAg!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9d58445f-836d-4c14-bbf4-824b02fc9011_800x537.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MoAg!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9d58445f-836d-4c14-bbf4-824b02fc9011_800x537.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MoAg!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9d58445f-836d-4c14-bbf4-824b02fc9011_800x537.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MoAg!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9d58445f-836d-4c14-bbf4-824b02fc9011_800x537.png" width="580" height="389.325" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/9d58445f-836d-4c14-bbf4-824b02fc9011_800x537.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:537,&quot;width&quot;:800,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:580,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Scientific reconstruction of two small feathered theropod dinosaurs standing side by side. These bird-like predators display many traits associated with the dinosaur ancestors of modern birds, including feathers, bipedal posture, grasping claws, and lightweight bodies. Theropods like these survived the end-Cretaceous extinction and eventually evolved into the more than 10,000 species of birds alive today.&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Scientific reconstruction of two small feathered theropod dinosaurs standing side by side. These bird-like predators display many traits associated with the dinosaur ancestors of modern birds, including feathers, bipedal posture, grasping claws, and lightweight bodies. 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Theropods like these survived the end-Cretaceous extinction and eventually evolved into the more than 10,000 species of birds alive today." srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MoAg!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9d58445f-836d-4c14-bbf4-824b02fc9011_800x537.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MoAg!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9d58445f-836d-4c14-bbf4-824b02fc9011_800x537.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MoAg!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9d58445f-836d-4c14-bbf4-824b02fc9011_800x537.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MoAg!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9d58445f-836d-4c14-bbf4-824b02fc9011_800x537.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Before birds were birds, they were these guys. Small, feathered theropods were already experimenting with intelligence, social behavior, and survival strategies long before the asteroid hit. Take away the mammals, give them another 66 million years, and Bird-Earth starts looking a lot less ridiculous. <a href="https://www.dinosaurcoast.org.au/broome-trackmakers/theropods/">(image: Dinosaur Coast)</a></em></figcaption></figure></div><p>The extinction left behind a huge number of vacant ecological roles, and evolution hates empty real estate. Run down the list &#8212; the impactor took out:</p><ul><li><p>large herbivores</p></li><li><p>small insectivores</p></li><li><p>mid-sized predators</p></li><li><p>scavengers</p></li><li><p>seed eaters</p></li><li><p>tree dwellers</p></li><li><p>ocean hunters</p></li></ul><p>In our timeline, mammals exploded into those niches. But if the Hulk somehow removes the mammalian lineage that eventually gives rise to primates, rodents, carnivores, whales, bats, and everything else, those niches don&#8217;t remain empty. They get filled by dinosaurs. Theropods.</p><p>Earth is Birdworld.</p><p>Research suggests that, by the end of the Cretaceous, some theropods were demonstrating at least modest intelligence, complex social behavior, and possibly even cooperative hunting. That requires information transfer, communication, and brains capable of handling both.</p><p>So yeah, after the impact&#8217;s aftermath, birds were ready to fly.</p><p>They were already:</p><ul><li><p>warm-blooded</p></li><li><p>intelligent</p></li><li><p>highly mobile</p></li><li><p>diverse</p></li><li><p>surviving the extinction successfully</p></li></ul><p>Give them 66 million years, and the descendants of those ancient theropods would almost certainly diversify into forms we can barely imagine.</p><p>Think less &#8220;sparrows&#8221; and more:</p><ul><li><p>crow-equivalents filling primate niches</p></li><li><p>giant flightless omnivores filling bear niches</p></li><li><p>predatory terrestrial birds filling wolf niches</p></li><li><p>highly manipulative beaks (maybe hand analogs) and feet evolving for tool use</p></li></ul><p>After all that time to evolve, a corvid-like lineage becomes a very plausible candidate for producing human-level intelligence.</p><p>Okay&#8212;maybe the mammals Hulk killed weren&#8217;t our direct ancestors, but killing them caused a temporal storm anyway. Other contenders for winning the evolutionary lottery would include intelligent descendants of rodents, raccoon-like mammals, snakes and lizards, crocodilians, marsupials, or something we simply can&#8217;t imagine.</p><p>Evolution wasn&#8217;t and isn&#8217;t &#8220;pointed&#8221; towards humans as the end result. Large brains have evolved independently multiple times, so if you remove the branch that eventually sprouts humans, there are other contenders waiting for their shot.</p><p>But birds are probably the safest bet.</p><p>Which Marvel Earth is Bird-Earth again? I mean, if we go all TVA on this, that branch might still exist before it gets pruned back into the Sacred Timeline. I mean, Captain America is a bald eagle. Falcon is still a falcon (duh). Iron Man becomes a highly evolved crow in powered armor&#8212;Iron Corvid. Reed Richards is a parrot with frightening reserves of theoretical intelligence. Spider-Man is a starling.</p><p>Oh, it goes on and on.</p><blockquote><p>Side Note: If going down these lines of thought makes your brain hungry for more, you&#8217;ve got to check out <a href="https://adriantchaikovsky.com/">Adrian Tchikovsky&#8217;s</a> <em>Children of Time</em> series (<em>Children of Time</em>, <em>Children of Ruin</em>, and <em>Children of Memory</em>), all of which explore civilizations where species other than primates took the lead.</p></blockquote><h1><strong>The Leader and Family Trees</strong></h1><p>Arriving in the past (again, with uncanny precision), the Leader protects our early post-impact ancestors by tricking the Hulk and sending him into the next trap.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5fkt!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fed636b6b-5df9-454e-9af0-cfa0d90cb306_659x2290.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5fkt!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fed636b6b-5df9-454e-9af0-cfa0d90cb306_659x2290.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5fkt!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fed636b6b-5df9-454e-9af0-cfa0d90cb306_659x2290.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5fkt!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fed636b6b-5df9-454e-9af0-cfa0d90cb306_659x2290.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5fkt!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fed636b6b-5df9-454e-9af0-cfa0d90cb306_659x2290.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5fkt!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fed636b6b-5df9-454e-9af0-cfa0d90cb306_659x2290.jpeg" width="299" height="1039.0136570561456" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/ed636b6b-5df9-454e-9af0-cfa0d90cb306_659x2290.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:2290,&quot;width&quot;:659,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:299,&quot;bytes&quot;:463069,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Comic panel from Hulk Smash Everything #2 showing the Leader greeting a small mammal survivor of the Chicxulub extinction event. The Leader raises his hand and says, &#8220;Hello, great-to-the-nth-degree grandmother. How are you?&#8221; The scene plays on the idea that tiny post-impact mammals were part of the ancestral population from which modern placental mammals, primates, and eventually humans evolved.&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/i/201642859?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fed636b6b-5df9-454e-9af0-cfa0d90cb306_659x2290.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Comic panel from Hulk Smash Everything #2 showing the Leader greeting a small mammal survivor of the Chicxulub extinction event. The Leader raises his hand and says, &#8220;Hello, great-to-the-nth-degree grandmother. How are you?&#8221; The scene plays on the idea that tiny post-impact mammals were part of the ancestral population from which modern placental mammals, primates, and eventually humans evolved." title="Comic panel from Hulk Smash Everything #2 showing the Leader greeting a small mammal survivor of the Chicxulub extinction event. The Leader raises his hand and says, &#8220;Hello, great-to-the-nth-degree grandmother. How are you?&#8221; The scene plays on the idea that tiny post-impact mammals were part of the ancestral population from which modern placental mammals, primates, and eventually humans evolved." srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5fkt!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fed636b6b-5df9-454e-9af0-cfa0d90cb306_659x2290.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5fkt!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fed636b6b-5df9-454e-9af0-cfa0d90cb306_659x2290.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5fkt!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fed636b6b-5df9-454e-9af0-cfa0d90cb306_659x2290.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5fkt!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fed636b6b-5df9-454e-9af0-cfa0d90cb306_659x2290.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Technically, she's part of an ancestral population rather than a single direct ancestor. But when you're standing about 2.6 million generations from a rat-sized survivor of the apocalypse, close enough probably counts.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>Yeah. &#8220;Hello, great-to-the-nth-degree grandmother.&#8221;</p><p>Strictly speaking, that&#8217;s not how evolution works. Sixty-six million years ago, individual family trees blur into populations. That little survivor isn&#8217;t a single grandmother waiting at the root of humanity&#8217;s family tree. She&#8217;s part of an entire population of survivors from which all later humans eventually emerge.</p><p>But for comic-book dialogue, it&#8217;s close enough.</p><p>And honestly, &#8220;Hello, member of my ancestral breeding population&#8221; doesn&#8217;t have quite the same ring to it.</p><p>As for the &#8220;nth&#8221; part, <em>that </em>can actually be estimated.</p><p>Sixty-six million years divided by roughly 25 years per generation means that, between that small mammal and the Leader, there would have been about 2.6 million generations. So, the technically ridiculous version would be:</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;Hello, my 2,600,000th-great-grandmother.&#8221;</p></blockquote><p>And even that probably understates the number, because early mammals reproduced much faster than humans do. If you account for shorter generation times throughout much of mammalian history, the true figure might be closer to five to ten million generations.</p><p>And if we want closer relatives for comparison:</p><p>Lucy-era hominins: <strong>~150,000 generations ago<br></strong>Human&#8211;chimp common ancestor: <strong>~250,000&#8211;350,000 generations ago<br><br></strong>So the Leader&#8217;s &#8220;great-to-the-nth-degree grandmother&#8221; is way, way deeper than Lucy. Lucy is ancient to us, but compared to those asteroid survivors, she&#8217;s practically family gossip.</p><h1><strong>Next Time&#8230;</strong></h1><p>We&#8217;ve wrung all the science out of this issue, so where are we heading next? In the final pages, the Leader uses the time platform as a space platform as well (no complaints here) and shoots Hulk to the black hole in the center of the Milky Way, Sagittarius-A*.</p><p>We&#8217;ll be back soon with a look inside, and trust us&#8230;</p><p><strong>There will be spaghettification.</strong></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7Qro!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F83e0dbb1-1c36-4582-8e73-3e4d59e324bf_1466x2246.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7Qro!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F83e0dbb1-1c36-4582-8e73-3e4d59e324bf_1466x2246.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7Qro!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F83e0dbb1-1c36-4582-8e73-3e4d59e324bf_1466x2246.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7Qro!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F83e0dbb1-1c36-4582-8e73-3e4d59e324bf_1466x2246.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7Qro!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F83e0dbb1-1c36-4582-8e73-3e4d59e324bf_1466x2246.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7Qro!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F83e0dbb1-1c36-4582-8e73-3e4d59e324bf_1466x2246.jpeg" width="372" height="570.0082417582418" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/83e0dbb1-1c36-4582-8e73-3e4d59e324bf_1466x2246.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:2231,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:372,&quot;bytes&quot;:1076160,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Final page from Hulk Smash Everything #2 showing the Hulk falling helplessly toward the glowing accretion disk of a supermassive black hole at the center of the galaxy. Streams of hot gas and light curve around the black hole while the Hulk tumbles through space, setting up the next stage of the story. A caption notes that even the Hulk cannot survive being drawn into the supermassive black hole, followed by &#8220;To Be Continued!&#8221;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/i/201642859?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F83e0dbb1-1c36-4582-8e73-3e4d59e324bf_1466x2246.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Final page from Hulk Smash Everything #2 showing the Hulk falling helplessly toward the glowing accretion disk of a supermassive black hole at the center of the galaxy. 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A caption notes that even the Hulk cannot survive being drawn into the supermassive black hole, followed by &#8220;To Be Continued!&#8221;" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7Qro!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F83e0dbb1-1c36-4582-8e73-3e4d59e324bf_1466x2246.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7Qro!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F83e0dbb1-1c36-4582-8e73-3e4d59e324bf_1466x2246.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7Qro!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F83e0dbb1-1c36-4582-8e73-3e4d59e324bf_1466x2246.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7Qro!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F83e0dbb1-1c36-4582-8e73-3e4d59e324bf_1466x2246.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><em><strong>Curiosity is what brought me here.</strong></em></p><p><em><strong>Teaching is what I do with it.</strong></em></p><p><em><strong>If you&#8217;d like to read more about education, classrooms, students, and the craft of teaching, you&#8217;ll find those stories in <a href="https://bradyteach.substack.com/">Teacher, Teacher</a>.</strong></em></p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading The Science Of...! 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Its lightly edited version is represented here because it&#8217;s useful, weird, fascinating, updated, or some combination of the four.</em></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!keBk!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F06ce58ff-2866-477d-8ef4-0b07990dff32_781x440.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!keBk!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F06ce58ff-2866-477d-8ef4-0b07990dff32_781x440.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!keBk!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F06ce58ff-2866-477d-8ef4-0b07990dff32_781x440.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!keBk!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F06ce58ff-2866-477d-8ef4-0b07990dff32_781x440.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!keBk!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F06ce58ff-2866-477d-8ef4-0b07990dff32_781x440.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!keBk!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F06ce58ff-2866-477d-8ef4-0b07990dff32_781x440.jpeg" width="781" height="440" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/06ce58ff-2866-477d-8ef4-0b07990dff32_781x440.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:440,&quot;width&quot;:781,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:69381,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Elena Anaya portrays Doctor Poison in the 2017 Wonder Woman film. Wearing a dark military coat and a ceramic facial mask that conceals injuries, the scientist stands in a World War I laboratory. The character specializes in developing poison gas weapons and serves as a fictional counterpart to themes explored in the life of chemist Fritz Haber, pioneer of the Haber-Bosch process and chemical warfare during World War I.&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:true,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/i/201451065?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F06ce58ff-2866-477d-8ef4-0b07990dff32_781x440.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Elena Anaya portrays Doctor Poison in the 2017 Wonder Woman film. Wearing a dark military coat and a ceramic facial mask that conceals injuries, the scientist stands in a World War I laboratory. The character specializes in developing poison gas weapons and serves as a fictional counterpart to themes explored in the life of chemist Fritz Haber, pioneer of the Haber-Bosch process and chemical warfare during World War I." title="Elena Anaya portrays Doctor Poison in the 2017 Wonder Woman film. Wearing a dark military coat and a ceramic facial mask that conceals injuries, the scientist stands in a World War I laboratory. The character specializes in developing poison gas weapons and serves as a fictional counterpart to themes explored in the life of chemist Fritz Haber, pioneer of the Haber-Bosch process and chemical warfare during World War I." srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!keBk!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F06ce58ff-2866-477d-8ef4-0b07990dff32_781x440.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!keBk!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F06ce58ff-2866-477d-8ef4-0b07990dff32_781x440.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!keBk!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F06ce58ff-2866-477d-8ef4-0b07990dff32_781x440.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!keBk!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F06ce58ff-2866-477d-8ef4-0b07990dff32_781x440.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Elena Anaya as Doctor Poison in 2017's</em> Wonder Woman<em>. A master of chemical warfare and one of Wonder Woman's oldest enemies, Doctor Poison may have more in common with real-world chemist Fritz Haber than either would probably like to admit. [Image: Warner Bros.]</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>In the <em>Wonder Woman</em> film (2017), Dr. Poison has everything going for her as a classic villain. She&#8217;s broken. She&#8217;s creepy. She&#8217;s troubled. She&#8217;s brilliant. And she knows her science.</p><p>Apparently in the thrall of General Ludendorff, Dr. Poison &#8211; Isabel Maru, played by Elena Anaya -  was responsible for developing, well&#8230;<em>poison</em> weapons for the German army in World War I, including a hydrogen-based gas (small molecular-sized particles could slip through filters) that could penetrate gas masks (and crack their glass too).</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.thescienceof.org/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p>As for where the character came from, Dr. Poison was Wonder Woman&#8217;s first &#8220;costumed&#8221; villain, appearing in 1942&#8217;s <strong>Sensation Comics #2</strong>. In that appearance, Dr. Poison (created by Marston and Harry Peter) was revealed to be Princess Maru, an Asian Princess tied to both the Yellow Peril and the rising anti-Japanese sentiment in the United States at the time. Since her first appearance, Dr. Poison has been rebooted three additional times in DC Comics, and is currently Marina Maru, leading an organization called&#8230;Poison (no, not the &#8216;80s hair band).</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xK8J!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcf46e40e-5552-497f-ad67-14aec4b12d90_800x376.avif" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xK8J!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcf46e40e-5552-497f-ad67-14aec4b12d90_800x376.avif 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xK8J!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcf46e40e-5552-497f-ad67-14aec4b12d90_800x376.avif 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xK8J!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcf46e40e-5552-497f-ad67-14aec4b12d90_800x376.avif 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xK8J!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcf46e40e-5552-497f-ad67-14aec4b12d90_800x376.avif 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xK8J!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcf46e40e-5552-497f-ad67-14aec4b12d90_800x376.avif" width="800" height="376" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/cf46e40e-5552-497f-ad67-14aec4b12d90_800x376.avif&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:376,&quot;width&quot;:800,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:76657,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Panel from Sensation Comics #2 (1942) featuring the original Doctor Poison confronting Steve Trevor. Doctor Poison wears a green hooded costume, black eye mask, and red gloves while pointing at Trevor during an interrogation. Speech balloons identify Doctor Poison as the chief of a poison division and threaten the destruction of the American Army. The Golden Age Wonder Woman villain represents one of the earliest comic-book depictions of a poison-gas scientist and would later inspire modern adaptations in Wonder Woman media.&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/avif&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/i/201451065?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcf46e40e-5552-497f-ad67-14aec4b12d90_800x376.avif&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Panel from Sensation Comics #2 (1942) featuring the original Doctor Poison confronting Steve Trevor. Doctor Poison wears a green hooded costume, black eye mask, and red gloves while pointing at Trevor during an interrogation. Speech balloons identify Doctor Poison as the chief of a poison division and threaten the destruction of the American Army. The Golden Age Wonder Woman villain represents one of the earliest comic-book depictions of a poison-gas scientist and would later inspire modern adaptations in Wonder Woman media." title="Panel from Sensation Comics #2 (1942) featuring the original Doctor Poison confronting Steve Trevor. Doctor Poison wears a green hooded costume, black eye mask, and red gloves while pointing at Trevor during an interrogation. Speech balloons identify Doctor Poison as the chief of a poison division and threaten the destruction of the American Army. The Golden Age Wonder Woman villain represents one of the earliest comic-book depictions of a poison-gas scientist and would later inspire modern adaptations in Wonder Woman media." srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xK8J!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcf46e40e-5552-497f-ad67-14aec4b12d90_800x376.avif 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xK8J!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcf46e40e-5552-497f-ad67-14aec4b12d90_800x376.avif 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xK8J!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcf46e40e-5552-497f-ad67-14aec4b12d90_800x376.avif 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xK8J!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcf46e40e-5552-497f-ad67-14aec4b12d90_800x376.avif 1456w" sizes="100vw"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Doctor Poison makes her debut in</em> Sensation Comics #2<em>, threatening Steve Trevor while boasting that she is the chief of a "poison division." Long before the character became a World War I chemist in the 2017 film, Wonder Woman's first recurring villain was already obsessed with toxic weapons and the fear they inspired. [image: DC Comics]</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>Dr. Poison in the film is frightening enough, but in this case, there&#8217;s a real-world analog, someone who has been celebrated and castigated through the years. Our world&#8217;s own complex character using science to help and hurt &#8211; Fritz Haber, the &#8220;Father of Chemical Weapons.&#8221;</p><p>And also, &#8220;the man who killed millions, but saved billions.&#8221;</p><p>Okay, but before we get into it, was Haber really the inspiration for the original Dr. Poison in 1942?</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pYSC!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd367beca-0aa9-4355-afd5-fb85ac5a001d_825x413.avif" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pYSC!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd367beca-0aa9-4355-afd5-fb85ac5a001d_825x413.avif 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pYSC!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd367beca-0aa9-4355-afd5-fb85ac5a001d_825x413.avif 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pYSC!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd367beca-0aa9-4355-afd5-fb85ac5a001d_825x413.avif 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pYSC!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd367beca-0aa9-4355-afd5-fb85ac5a001d_825x413.avif 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pYSC!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd367beca-0aa9-4355-afd5-fb85ac5a001d_825x413.avif" width="825" height="413" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/d367beca-0aa9-4355-afd5-fb85ac5a001d_825x413.avif&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:413,&quot;width&quot;:825,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:95461,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Panel from Sensation Comics #2 (1942) showing the original Doctor Poison in a laboratory surrounded by scientists and chemical equipment. Doctor Poison explains a fictional chemical called \&quot;Reverso,\&quot; which allegedly causes soldiers to do the opposite of orders they receive. The Golden Age Wonder Woman villain wears a green hooded costume and stands beside large cylinders containing the experimental drug.Panel from Sensation Comics #2 (1942) showing the original Doctor Poison in a laboratory surrounded by scientists and chemical equipment. Doctor Poison explains a fictional chemical called \&quot;Reverso,\&quot; which allegedly causes soldiers to do the opposite of orders they receive. 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The Golden Age Wonder Woman villain wears a green hooded costume and stands beside large cylinders containing the experimental drug.Panel from Sensation Comics #2 (1942) showing the original Doctor Poison in a laboratory surrounded by scientists and chemical equipment. Doctor Poison explains a fictional chemical called &quot;Reverso,&quot; which allegedly causes soldiers to do the opposite of orders they receive. The Golden Age Wonder Woman villain wears a green hooded costume and stands beside large cylinders containing the experimental drug." srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pYSC!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd367beca-0aa9-4355-afd5-fb85ac5a001d_825x413.avif 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pYSC!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd367beca-0aa9-4355-afd5-fb85ac5a001d_825x413.avif 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pYSC!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd367beca-0aa9-4355-afd5-fb85ac5a001d_825x413.avif 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pYSC!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd367beca-0aa9-4355-afd5-fb85ac5a001d_825x413.avif 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Golden Age comic-book science was operating on an entirely different wavelength. Here, Doctor Poison unveils "Reverso," a chemical that supposedly makes soldiers do the exact opposite of what they're told. Fritz Haber gave the world chlorine gas. Doctor Poison gave us weaponized contrarianism. One of these ideas was less practical, but arguably more fun. [image: DC Comics]</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>I mean&#8230;(<em>waves hands</em>).</p><p><strong>Sensation Comics</strong> was originally written by William Moulton Marston, who created Wonder Woman and her initial cast, including Dr. Poison in issue #2. While there is no direct evidence connecting Dr. Poison with Haber, Marston was in college when chemical weapons made their debut. </p><p>The Wonder Woman creator was at Harvard from 1915 to 1921, earning a B.A., a law degree, and a PhD. in psychology. He was certainly no stranger to science and almost certainly would&#8217;ve heard of the use of chemical weapons by the Germans following their first use in the Second Battle of Ypres in the spring of 1915. The use of the gas was widely reported in papers throughout America, from <em>The New York Times</em> to <em>The</em> <em>Chicago Tribune.</em></p><p>Firsthand accounts of the gas were stuff of nightmares &#8211; a sickly looking yellow-green gas rolling across the landscape, turning any vegetation brown and wilted, flowing down into depressions and pits in the ground, ultimately drifting down into the trenches where the Allied soldiers waited. </p><p>So does Haber equal Dr. Poison? The lines are conjecture, so&#8230; maybe not <em>directly</em>, but Haber and the memory of WWI gas warfare would have been part of the cultural atmosphere Marston inherited (and was probably goosed by the news of Haber&#8217;s death in January 1934).</p><p>Before we get into our suspected scientist-inspiration, we should note that Dr. Poison hasn&#8217;t been left behind in the &#8216;40s. Along with appearing in 2017&#8217;s Wonder Woman film, there have been other (five&#8230;six?) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Poison">iterations of the character</a> over the years thanks to continuity reboots and restarts.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/p/wonder-womans-doctor-poison-was-real?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.thescienceof.org/p/wonder-womans-doctor-poison-was-real?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p><p>Most recently, Dr. Poison has returned in <strong>Absolute Wonder Woman</strong>, where she&#8217;s a member of Veronica Cale&#8217;s Suicide Squad. This time, the character gives more than a passing nod to poison gases - she is a sentient cloud of poison gas. </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZLtC!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F423efad9-cd4e-4a75-9f54-16346bc09c4b_1365x1008.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZLtC!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F423efad9-cd4e-4a75-9f54-16346bc09c4b_1365x1008.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZLtC!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F423efad9-cd4e-4a75-9f54-16346bc09c4b_1365x1008.jpeg 848w, 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stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>The image below is actually Poison&#8217;s second suit, after she&#8230;<em>colorfully </em>complained to Cale that the first one, which was bulkier, didn&#8217;t allow her to do delicate work.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CvYy!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa78e5bff-dd7e-4abe-81b2-88f5360b1c5c_1760x2048.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CvYy!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa78e5bff-dd7e-4abe-81b2-88f5360b1c5c_1760x2048.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CvYy!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa78e5bff-dd7e-4abe-81b2-88f5360b1c5c_1760x2048.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CvYy!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa78e5bff-dd7e-4abe-81b2-88f5360b1c5c_1760x2048.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CvYy!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa78e5bff-dd7e-4abe-81b2-88f5360b1c5c_1760x2048.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img 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stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>So, back to Fritz Haber, our maybe kinda real-life inspiration for Doctor Poison.</p><p>If you can maybe remember him from a chemistry class or a YouTube video, you may already have a sense for who Haber is. But if we&#8217;re being honest, Haber, like <em>Wonder Woman&#8217;s</em> Dr. Poison, is a complex individual who resists the broad-brushing of turning him into a simple villain.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6dyC!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2fe9fd28-22f4-44e3-96db-4e8196276490_503x692.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6dyC!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2fe9fd28-22f4-44e3-96db-4e8196276490_503x692.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6dyC!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2fe9fd28-22f4-44e3-96db-4e8196276490_503x692.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6dyC!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2fe9fd28-22f4-44e3-96db-4e8196276490_503x692.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6dyC!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2fe9fd28-22f4-44e3-96db-4e8196276490_503x692.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6dyC!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2fe9fd28-22f4-44e3-96db-4e8196276490_503x692.jpeg" width="503" height="692" 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Fritz Haber is often cast as a lone German mad scientist in stories about chemical weapons used in World War I, but that&#8217;s not quite accurate. Chemistry was the hot science in the early 20<sup>th</sup> century. In many ways, World War I was an opportunity for the leading industrial nations to showcase their technologies to the rest of the world. Despite<a href="https://www.opcw.org/chemical-weapons-convention/related-international-agreements/chemical-warfare-and-chemical-weapons/hague-convention-of-1907/"> the Hague Convention of 1899 and 1907</a>, which prohibited the use of asphyxiating gas projectiles in war, France used tear gas/irritant agents on the Germans in 1914. Once the Germans introduced gases on the battlefield, the Allies answered with gases of their own. Lost to most history and chemistry texts, in fact, is Haber&#8217;s rivalry with the French chemist Victor Grignard, who also studied gas weapons. No, this wasn&#8217;t a case of Haber secretly toiling and developing chemical weapons for war. The whole world was headed in that direction. Haber just got there first.</p><p>But before we expose his dark side, let&#8217;s make one thing clear &#8211; Haber was a brilliant chemist. Before he became known for his work with chemical agents, Haber, in collaboration with Carl Bosch, invented the Haber-Bosch process, a means to literally pull nitrogen out of the air (with the use of a metal catalyst under high temperatures and pressures)</p><p>Chemistry students know the Haber-Bosch equation well &#8211; it&#8217;s usually the go-to equation to explain Le Chatelier&#8217;s Principle:</p><p style="text-align: center;">N<sub>2</sub> + H<sub>2</sub> -&gt; 2NH<sub>3</sub></p><p>The ammonia (NH<sub>3</sub>) is then used to produce fertilizer, which, in Haber&#8217;s time, was desperately needed to help feed the world&#8217;s rapidly growing population. The process is still used today and is often pointed to as one of the main factors that has allowed the Earth&#8217;s population to grow to over 7 billion. For their work on a process that benefits all humanity, Haber won the Nobel Prize in 1928 for ammonia synthesis, while Bosch won in 1931 for high-pressure chemical methods. Haber&#8217;s win in 1918 was&#8230;<em>controversial</em> to say the least, with the Nobel committee explaining that they only considered his work that benefited agriculture, rather than his wartime activities.</p><p>However, pulling all that nitrogen in the air and making it useful drew the attention of the German Army, which needed it for nitrogen-based explosives during the Great War.</p><p>When the Great War came, Haber saw himself as a German first and a chemist second (in opposition to his friend, Albert Einstein, who was critical of Germany), and told the German government he would do whatever his country needed to help in the war effort.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eiJb!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe718b652-eb65-4e65-84d8-04e2a4193726_700x464.jpeg" 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stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Like Dr. Poison, Haber was not regarded as a traditional war hero by the German military leadership. These were generals and soldiers of the Victorian Era &#8211; gentlemen first, soldiers second. Haber&#8217;s ideas of killing the enemy with gas were seen as &#8220;unchivalrous&#8221; and &#8220;repulsive.&#8221; But Haber was steadfast, insisting that the gas would be a means of reducing German casualties (while increasing those of the Allies) and of ending the war faster (with Germany on top). In the end, Haber&#8217;s plans for chlorine gas were a means to an end, and the generals finally took Haber&#8217;s advice of &#8220;using chemical warfare with conviction.&#8221;</p><p>With the military finally behind him, Haber threw himself and his lab at the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute for Physical Chemistry into the business of making a poison gas for the troops. By April of 1915, Haber had his perfect concoction and was on the front lines at Ypres,<a href="http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/germans-turned-gas-into-deadly-advantage-at-ypres/news-story/b137541785d565889f57b765859a9fe8"> Belgium</a>. There, he waited for weeks until the winds were just right, and on April 22nd, he released over 168 tons of the gas from canisters, which exploited the wording and was still plainly against the spirit of the Hague Convention, which outlawed gas <em>projectiles </em>whose sole purpose was spreading asphyxiating/deleterious gases.</p><p>Denser than air, the gas drifted like a low, yellow wall towards the French trenches. Hundreds to thousands (depending upon your source) of French and Algerian soldiers died from exposure. While the gas use did not lead to an immediate victory for the Germans, it emboldened Haber and the German High Command to view gas weapons in a favorable light.</p><p>Haber oversaw another attack at Ypres, this time on Canadian troops, and by May 2<sup>nd</sup>, had been promoted to a uniform-wearing Captain and was headed home to Berlin for a party in his honor. He was living a celebrated existence at this point &#8211; a party on the 2<sup>nd</sup>, and then on May 3<sup>rd</sup>, he was headed to the Eastern front to oversee a gas attack on the Russians.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Bsvs!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F561b9e9e-c3fc-4447-80eb-d6e1d0e64bd6_2000x2768.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Bsvs!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F561b9e9e-c3fc-4447-80eb-d6e1d0e64bd6_2000x2768.jpeg 424w, 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he later said Clara&#8217;s face and words still haunted him.</p><p>But whether or not his wife&#8217;s ghost haunted him, it didn&#8217;t slow down his work. </p><p>After the debut of Haber&#8217;s chlorine gas, the chemist went on to oversee the development of phosgene gas (COCl<sub>2</sub>) and mustard gas ((ClCH<sub>2</sub>CH<sub>2</sub>)<sub>2</sub>S). Each of the three gases used in World War I is horrible, and while both German and Allied armies rapidly developed gas mask technology to minimize the effects of the gases, there were approximately 1.3 million gas-related casualties and around 91,000 deaths from poison gases in World War I between their debut at Ypres in 1915 and the end of the war in November of 1918.</p><p>Strictly from the chlorine gas side of things, inhalation of the gas is a horrible way to go, thanks to the reaction that happens in the lungs that produces both hydrochloric acid and hypoclorous acid:</p><p style="text-align: center;">Cl<sub>2</sub> + H<sub>2</sub>O &lt;-&gt; HCl + HOCl</p><p>The water on the reactant (left) side would be found in the lungs or on the surface of the eyes. The gas could blind those without protection, while in the lungs, the alveoli would be damaged or scarred, reducing the ability to absorb oxygen &#8211; if you were lucky. If you were unlucky, exposure to hydrochloric acid would cause lung cells to rupture (lyse), releasing their contents. Fluid-filled lungs would literally lead to drowning on dry land.</p><p>On April 26<sup>th</sup>, 1915, <em>The New York Times</em> reported on the battle:</p><p style="text-align: center;"><em>&#8220;Some (soldiers) got away in time, but many, alas, not understanding the new danger, were not so fortunate and were overcome by the fumes and died poisoned. Among those who escaped, nearly all cough up blood, the chlorine attacking the mucous membranes. The dead were turned black at once &#8230; (The Germans) made no prisoners. Whenever they saw a soldier whom the fumes had not quite killed they snatched away his rifle &#8230; and advised him to lie down to die better.&#8221;</em></p><p>Mustard gas and phosgene were, reportedly, even worse, sometimes delaying their deadly effects until after the battle was over. Haber also worked on a gas blend called <em>maskenbrecher </em>or &#8220;mask breaker&#8221; &#8211; an agent that would be small enough to get through the filters of a gas mask and cause a violent reaction from sneezing to vomiting, forcing soldiers to remove their gas masks, and then be exposed to the other, deadlier gases from which their masks were protecting them. Hey - what was that gas Dr. Poison was working on again?</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-LcQ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F425ee76f-6c3e-48aa-81fb-b2b0c8691610_500x250.gif" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-LcQ!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F425ee76f-6c3e-48aa-81fb-b2b0c8691610_500x250.gif 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-LcQ!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F425ee76f-6c3e-48aa-81fb-b2b0c8691610_500x250.gif 848w, 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stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Yeet!</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>Following World War I, Haber was designated a war criminal by the Allied Powers, but, like Dr. Poison in <em>Wonder Woman</em>, he escaped capture and prosecution, fleeing to Switzerland in 1919. His name was later removed from the list of wanted war criminals, and he returned to postwar Germany a hero. </p><p>During these postwar years, Haber continued his research into poisonous gases, in direct opposition to the <a href="https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/treaty-of-versailles">Treaty of Versailles</a>. Part of the research into poisonous gases led to the development of the pesticide Zyklon A in the 1920s. Another Haber project in the years of reparations being paid by Germany &#8211; he proposed that he could extract gold from seawater. </p><p>He wasn&#8217;t wrong about gold in seawater. There&#8217;s a little bit of everything in there. But Haber&#8217;s methods were not up to the challenge, and ultimately, his plans bore no fruit.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-ZbS!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1290af92-20b9-49d7-98af-1400b6df1ffb_457x692.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-ZbS!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1290af92-20b9-49d7-98af-1400b6df1ffb_457x692.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-ZbS!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1290af92-20b9-49d7-98af-1400b6df1ffb_457x692.jpeg 848w, 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stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>While he was initially seen as a favored son in his beloved Germany, the postwar years became difficult for Haber as the National Socialist Party rose to power. Haber&#8217;s Jewish ancestry, long known but previously overlooked because of his conversion to Christianity (1924) and patriotic service to Germany, suddenly became impossible to ignore under Nazi racial laws, effectively ending his scientific career.</p><p>Doors that were once thrown wide for him were firmly closed. Haber fled his beloved Germany for England in 1933, but his work with chemical weapons kept him from finding a home there. Haber wandered Europe for some time, ultimately dying of a heart attack in a Swiss hotel in January of 1934.</p><p>In a cruel twist of fate, or what some might see as karma, Haber had one final role to play in the story of poison gas.</p><p>Now, to be clear, Haber did not invent Zyklon B. That pesticide was developed by other German chemists in the 1920s. But it emerged from the same German chemical industry and scientific world that Haber had helped build and champion throughout his career.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.thescienceof.org/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p>Years later, the Nazis would repurpose Zyklon B for something far darker than pest control. The gas became one of the primary tools of mass murder during the Holocaust, killing millions of people, including countless Jews.</p><p>And that&#8217;s where the story takes one final, bitter turn.</p><p>Haber had spent much of his life trying to prove he was German. He converted from Judaism to Christianity. He devoted his scientific genius to Germany&#8217;s war effort. He considered himself a patriot first and foremost.</p><p>It wasn&#8217;t enough.</p><p>The Nazis saw only his Jewish ancestry. He was forced from the country he loved, stripped of the place he had spent a lifetime earning. Worse still, likely, some of his own relatives would later become victims of the regime.</p><p>History rarely gives us neat endings. But it is difficult to imagine a more tragic irony than this: a man who helped pioneer chemical warfare, who dedicated his life to Germany, ultimately rejected by that same nation while a poison associated with the chemical establishment he helped create was turned against his own people.</p><p>A complex man during his lifetime, Haber&#8217;s legacy is equally complex. Some estimates suggest that half the world&#8217;s population would not be here if not for the Haber-Bosch process, which enabled the cheap, easy production of fertilizers in bulk. Conversely, the descendants of the victims of Haber&#8217;s gas attacks (including those killed by Zyklon B) are not here.</p><p>Real-life &#8220;villains&#8221; are indeed complex characters.</p><p><em><strong>More:</strong></em></p><p><em><a href="https://www.fhi.mpg.de/70309/History_Brief_Bio_Haber.pdf">A Brief Biography of Fritz Haber (1868 - 1934)</a></em> (pdf)</p><p><em><a href="http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/fritz-habers-experiments-in-life-and-death-114161301/">Fritz Haber&#8217;s Experiments in Life and Death</a></em></p><p><em><a href="https://www.opcw.org/about-opcw/">Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons</a></em></p><p><em><a href="http://chemicalweapons.cenmag.org/">Chemical and Engineering News: 100 Years of Chemical Weapons</a></em></p><p><em><strong>Curiosity is what brought me here.</strong></em></p><p><em><strong>Teaching is what I do with it.</strong></em></p><p><em><strong>If you&#8217;d like to read more about education, classrooms, students, and the craft of teaching, you&#8217;ll find those stories in <a href="https://bradyteach.substack.com/">Teacher, Teacher</a>.</strong></em></p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading The Science Of...! Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support my work.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Lonely Galaxy Guide to the Project Hail Mary Neighborhood]]></title><description><![CDATA[From the Sun to Tau Ceti to Erid&#8212;and the Physics That Connects Them]]></description><link>https://www.thescienceof.org/p/project-hail-mary-neighborhood-tau-ceti-erid-real-science</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.thescienceof.org/p/project-hail-mary-neighborhood-tau-ceti-erid-real-science</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt Brady]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2026 12:02:46 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ndic!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F684c0872-d5a3-4fa7-a1a3-d4f135af83ac_1024x1536.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ndic!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F684c0872-d5a3-4fa7-a1a3-d4f135af83ac_1024x1536.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ndic!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F684c0872-d5a3-4fa7-a1a3-d4f135af83ac_1024x1536.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ndic!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F684c0872-d5a3-4fa7-a1a3-d4f135af83ac_1024x1536.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ndic!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F684c0872-d5a3-4fa7-a1a3-d4f135af83ac_1024x1536.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ndic!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F684c0872-d5a3-4fa7-a1a3-d4f135af83ac_1024x1536.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ndic!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F684c0872-d5a3-4fa7-a1a3-d4f135af83ac_1024x1536.png" width="1024" height="1536" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/684c0872-d5a3-4fa7-a1a3-d4f135af83ac_1024x1536.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1536,&quot;width&quot;:1024,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:2588593,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Vintage-inspired travel guide cover titled &#8220;The Lonely Galaxy Guide to Project Hail Mary&#8217;s Neighborhood.&#8221; Against a dark star-filled backdrop crossed by the Milky Way, a simple triangular map connects three nearby stars: The Sun, Tau Ceti, and Erid (40 Eridani A). Distances between the stars are labeled as approximately 11.9 light-years, 16.3 light-years, and 10 light-years. At the center of the triangle, a handwritten note reads, &#8220;Three stars. One cul-de-sac.&#8221; A circular badge in the upper right proclaims &#8220;Close by Galactic Standards.&#8221;  Along the left side, a travel-guide sidebar labeled &#8220;Inside This Guide&#8221; lists topics including Goldilocks Zones, planets and moons, relativity, and debris disks. The three stars are shown in their appropriate colors: the Sun and Tau Ceti as yellow G-type stars, and Erid as an orange K-type star. The overall design resembles a retro science-travel poster, presenting the real star systems that inspired Project Hail Mary as destinations within a shared galactic neighborhood.&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:true,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/i/196520775?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F684c0872-d5a3-4fa7-a1a3-d4f135af83ac_1024x1536.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Vintage-inspired travel guide cover titled &#8220;The Lonely Galaxy Guide to Project Hail Mary&#8217;s Neighborhood.&#8221; Against a dark star-filled backdrop crossed by the Milky Way, a simple triangular map connects three nearby stars: The Sun, Tau Ceti, and Erid (40 Eridani A). Distances between the stars are labeled as approximately 11.9 light-years, 16.3 light-years, and 10 light-years. At the center of the triangle, a handwritten note reads, &#8220;Three stars. One cul-de-sac.&#8221; A circular badge in the upper right proclaims &#8220;Close by Galactic Standards.&#8221;  Along the left side, a travel-guide sidebar labeled &#8220;Inside This Guide&#8221; lists topics including Goldilocks Zones, planets and moons, relativity, and debris disks. The three stars are shown in their appropriate colors: the Sun and Tau Ceti as yellow G-type stars, and Erid as an orange K-type star. The overall design resembles a retro science-travel poster, presenting the real star systems that inspired Project Hail Mary as destinations within a shared galactic neighborhood." title="Vintage-inspired travel guide cover titled &#8220;The Lonely Galaxy Guide to Project Hail Mary&#8217;s Neighborhood.&#8221; Against a dark star-filled backdrop crossed by the Milky Way, a simple triangular map connects three nearby stars: The Sun, Tau Ceti, and Erid (40 Eridani A). Distances between the stars are labeled as approximately 11.9 light-years, 16.3 light-years, and 10 light-years. At the center of the triangle, a handwritten note reads, &#8220;Three stars. One cul-de-sac.&#8221; A circular badge in the upper right proclaims &#8220;Close by Galactic Standards.&#8221;  Along the left side, a travel-guide sidebar labeled &#8220;Inside This Guide&#8221; lists topics including Goldilocks Zones, planets and moons, relativity, and debris disks. The three stars are shown in their appropriate colors: the Sun and Tau Ceti as yellow G-type stars, and Erid as an orange K-type star. The overall design resembles a retro science-travel poster, presenting the real star systems that inspired Project Hail Mary as destinations within a shared galactic neighborhood." srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ndic!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F684c0872-d5a3-4fa7-a1a3-d4f135af83ac_1024x1536.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ndic!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F684c0872-d5a3-4fa7-a1a3-d4f135af83ac_1024x1536.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ndic!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F684c0872-d5a3-4fa7-a1a3-d4f135af83ac_1024x1536.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ndic!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F684c0872-d5a3-4fa7-a1a3-d4f135af83ac_1024x1536.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>The Milky Way is enormous.</p><p>The neighborhood we&#8217;ll be visiting today? Not so much. </p><p>Well, relatively.</p><p>On the scale of the Solar System, the journey Ryland Grace undertook in <em>Project Hail Mary</em> was almost unimaginable. Sixteen light-years is such a ridiculous distance that our brains quietly file it under &#8220;basically infinite&#8221; and move on.</p><p>But that&#8217;s only if you&#8217;re thinking on Solar System scales.</p><p>Zoom out - way out.</p><p>Far enough that the entire Solar System disappears into a single pixel and the Sun becomes just another star among hundreds of billions.</p><p>From that perspective, Grace&#8217;s voyage wasn&#8217;t a trek across the galaxy.</p><p>It was a trip across the neighborhood.</p><p>In fact, the three systems we&#8217;ll be visiting today - the Sun, Tau Ceti, and Erid are so close together that, as far as the Milky Way is concerned, they&#8217;re on the same street. (If you zoom out to the scale of the observable universe, they really are in the same place. But that&#8217;s a different article.)</p><p>Today, we&#8217;ll travel from Earth to Tau Ceti and then onward to Erid, covering a total of about sixteen light-years without ever leaving the same galactic cul-de-sac.</p><p>Before we go, though, let&#8217;s make sure we&#8217;re all speaking the same language.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.thescienceof.org/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><h2><strong>Terms and Conditions that Will Apply</strong></h2><h3><strong>Distance</strong></h3><p>On Earth, we measure distances in miles (if you&#8217;re in one of the few countries still clinging to Imperial units) or kilometers.</p><p>Just in case high school science was a long time ago, a kilometer is 1,000 meters, or about 0.62 miles.</p><p>That&#8217;s Earth-scale thinking. Astronomers gave up on that nonsense a long time ago.</p><p>The problem is that space is big. Really big. Distances that seem enormous on Earth become inconveniently small once you leave it.</p><p>For travel within a solar system, astronomers use the Astronomical Unit (AU): the average distance between Earth and the Sun.</p><p>One AU is about 93 million miles (150 million kilometers).</p><p>Using that scale:</p><ul><li><p>Earth orbits at 1 AU</p></li><li><p>Jupiter orbits at 5.2 AU</p></li><li><p>Neptune orbits at about 30 AU</p></li></ul><p>For most of the Solar System, the AU is a perfectly useful yardstick. But once you start traveling between stars, even the AU starts feeling a little cramped.</p><p>That&#8217;s where the light-year comes in.</p><p>Despite the name, a light-year is a measure of distance, not time. It&#8217;s simply the distance light travels in one year.</p><p>One light-year equals:</p><ul><li><p>63,241 AU</p></li><li><p>5.88 trillion miles</p></li><li><p>9.46 trillion kilometers</p></li></ul><p>Which sounds enormous until you realize that the entire journey of <em>Project Hail Mary</em> takes place across only a handful of them.</p><blockquote><p><strong>Side Note: Parsecs</strong></p><p>At some point, someone will ask why we&#8217;re using light-years instead of parsecs. Fair question.</p><p>A parsec is another unit of distance used by astronomers. One parsec is equal to about 3.26 light-years.</p><p>Unlike a light-year, which is based on how far light travels in a year, a parsec is a unit of distance derived from geometry. Specifically, it&#8217;s the distance at which 1 AU would appear to shift by one arcsecond against the background stars as Earth moves around the Sun.</p><p>If that sentence made your eyes glaze over, don&#8217;t worry. Mine too, and I teach this stuff. The important thing to know is that parsecs are incredibly useful for astronomers because they&#8217;re tied directly to how we measure distances to nearby stars.</p><p>The important thing to know for this article is that they&#8217;re annoying. Not because they&#8217;re bad. They&#8217;re perfectly good units.</p><p>But if I tell you that Tau Ceti is about 3.65 parsecs away and Erid is about 4.9 parsecs away, most people&#8217;s brains immediately respond with, &#8220;Cool. Is that close?&#8221;</p><p>If I tell you they&#8217;re about 12 and 16 light-years away, respectively, at least the unit itself provides a hint that we&#8217;re talking about really large distances.</p><p>Astronomers may grumble. They&#8217;ll survive.</p><p>As for the whole &#8220;parsecs in Star Wars&#8221; debate, we&#8217;re not opening that airlock today.</p></blockquote><p>For the rest of this trip, we&#8217;ll mostly speak in AUs when we&#8217;re inside a solar system and light-years when we&#8217;re traveling between them.</p><p>The simplest version? Think of AUs as city blocks, and light-years as the distance between towns.</p><p>One final note before we leave Distance behind: If you draw lines between Earth, Tau Ceti, and Erid, you don&#8217;t get a straight line. You get a triangle.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yzPx!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb2efffa3-67c8-43c6-9cde-9e7285d096c1_1254x1254.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yzPx!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb2efffa3-67c8-43c6-9cde-9e7285d096c1_1254x1254.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yzPx!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb2efffa3-67c8-43c6-9cde-9e7285d096c1_1254x1254.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yzPx!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb2efffa3-67c8-43c6-9cde-9e7285d096c1_1254x1254.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yzPx!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb2efffa3-67c8-43c6-9cde-9e7285d096c1_1254x1254.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yzPx!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb2efffa3-67c8-43c6-9cde-9e7285d096c1_1254x1254.jpeg" width="1254" height="1254" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/b2efffa3-67c8-43c6-9cde-9e7285d096c1_1254x1254.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1254,&quot;width&quot;:1254,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Hand-drawn whiteboard-style infographic titled &#8220;The Neighborhood Triangle.&#8221; The graphic explains the spatial relationship between Earth (the Sun), Tau Ceti, and Erid (40 Eridani A). Text notes that Tau Ceti is 11.9 light-years from Earth, Erid is 16.3 light-years away, and the distance between Tau Ceti and Erid is approximately 10 light-years. A simple triangular diagram shows Earth at the lower left, Tau Ceti at the lower right, and Erid at the top, connected by dashed lines labeled with their distances. A small angle of roughly 34&#176; is marked at Earth, with a note explaining that this is not a right triangle, so the Pythagorean Theorem does not apply. Additional handwritten notes explain that the distances are rounded and that the systems are still enormous by human standards but close by galactic standards. A boxed caption at the bottom summarizes the idea: &#8220;Three systems. Three points. One neighborhood.\&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Hand-drawn whiteboard-style infographic titled &#8220;The Neighborhood Triangle.&#8221; The graphic explains the spatial relationship between Earth (the Sun), Tau Ceti, and Erid (40 Eridani A). Text notes that Tau Ceti is 11.9 light-years from Earth, Erid is 16.3 light-years away, and the distance between Tau Ceti and Erid is approximately 10 light-years. A simple triangular diagram shows Earth at the lower left, Tau Ceti at the lower right, and Erid at the top, connected by dashed lines labeled with their distances. A small angle of roughly 34&#176; is marked at Earth, with a note explaining that this is not a right triangle, so the Pythagorean Theorem does not apply. Additional handwritten notes explain that the distances are rounded and that the systems are still enormous by human standards but close by galactic standards. A boxed caption at the bottom summarizes the idea: &#8220;Three systems. Three points. One neighborhood.&quot;" title="Hand-drawn whiteboard-style infographic titled &#8220;The Neighborhood Triangle.&#8221; The graphic explains the spatial relationship between Earth (the Sun), Tau Ceti, and Erid (40 Eridani A). Text notes that Tau Ceti is 11.9 light-years from Earth, Erid is 16.3 light-years away, and the distance between Tau Ceti and Erid is approximately 10 light-years. A simple triangular diagram shows Earth at the lower left, Tau Ceti at the lower right, and Erid at the top, connected by dashed lines labeled with their distances. A small angle of roughly 34&#176; is marked at Earth, with a note explaining that this is not a right triangle, so the Pythagorean Theorem does not apply. Additional handwritten notes explain that the distances are rounded and that the systems are still enormous by human standards but close by galactic standards. A boxed caption at the bottom summarizes the idea: &#8220;Three systems. Three points. One neighborhood.&quot;" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yzPx!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb2efffa3-67c8-43c6-9cde-9e7285d096c1_1254x1254.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yzPx!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb2efffa3-67c8-43c6-9cde-9e7285d096c1_1254x1254.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yzPx!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb2efffa3-67c8-43c6-9cde-9e7285d096c1_1254x1254.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yzPx!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb2efffa3-67c8-43c6-9cde-9e7285d096c1_1254x1254.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Earth sits at one corner. Tau Ceti sits about 11.9 light-years away. Erid sits about 16.3 light-years away. The surprising part is the third side.</p><p>Tau Ceti and Erid are only about 10 light-years apart.</p><p>That&#8217;s still an absurd distance by human standards. But on a galactic scale, it&#8217;s another reminder that these systems are neighbors.</p><p>Again, if the Milky Way were a city, the Sun, Tau Ceti, and Erid wouldn&#8217;t be in different states.</p><p>They&#8217;d be on the same street.</p><p>Just for one final reference, and to drive home the point that Erid and Tau Ceti are our neighbors, the center of the galaxy is 26,000 light-years away, while one of our nearby galaxies, the Andromeda Galaxy, is 2.5 million light-years away. Yeah, given that, we can look at Tau Ceti or Erid and see if someone left a light on in the window.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/p/project-hail-mary-neighborhood-tau-ceti-erid-real-science?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.thescienceof.org/p/project-hail-mary-neighborhood-tau-ceti-erid-real-science?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p><h2><strong>Types of Stars</strong></h2><p>Before we start hopping between solar systems, we need to talk about stars.</p><p>Not all stars are the same.</p><p>Some are larger, hotter, brighter, and burn through their fuel like a college freshman discovering energy drinks. Others are smaller, cooler, dimmer, and can keep shining for tens or even hundreds of billions of years. As a general rule, the cooler you burn, the longer you live.</p><p>Astronomers classify stars by their temperature and color using a system that ranges from hot blue stars to cool red stars. There are considerably more details than that, but for this trip, we only need to concern ourselves with three stars.</p><h4><strong>The Sun</strong></h4><p>Our Sun is a <em>G-type main-sequence star</em>.</p><p>It&#8217;s the standard unit for this part of the trip: 1 solar mass, 1 solar radius, 1 solar luminosity.</p><p>Convenient. Almost suspiciously convenient. Like we live next to the thing or something.</p><p>The Sun has been steadily converting hydrogen into helium for about 4.6 billion years. It is bright enough to keep Earth warm, quiet enough not to sterilize it, and massive enough to provide the gravity that holds the entire Solar System together.</p><p>When astronomers talk about another star&#8217;s mass, radius, or brightness, they often compare it to the Sun.</p><p>Think of the Sun as the Holiday Inn of stars. Not the biggest. Not the fanciest. But clean, reliable, and familiar enough that we use it as the baseline for comparison.</p><h4><strong>Tau Ceti</strong></h4><p>Tau Ceti is also a G-type main-sequence star, making it one of the Sun&#8217;s closest cousins in the neighborhood.</p><p>It is smaller and dimmer than our Sun:</p><ul><li><p>about 0.78 solar masses</p></li><li><p>about 0.79 solar radii</p></li><li><p>roughly 0.5 solar luminosities</p></li></ul><p>In plain English: Tau Ceti has about 78% of the Sun&#8217;s mass, about 79% of its radius, and gives off about half as much energy (even before its <a href="https://www.thescienceof.org/p/a-field-guide-to-astrophage?r=skte">Astrophage</a> infection). So yes, it is Sun-like.</p><p>But &#8220;Sun-like&#8221; does not mean &#8220;basically the Sun with a different nametag.&#8221;</p><p>If you somehow swapped the Sun for Tau Ceti tomorrow, Earth would get colder. Not &#8220;instantly frozen death planet&#8221; colder, but colder enough that everyone would notice, especially the plants, the oceans, and everyone who already complains when the thermostat drops two degrees.</p><p>Tau Ceti is familiar enough to be useful and different enough to matter.</p><p>Which is exactly why astronomers care about it. It&#8217;s close enough to study, familiar enough to compare, and weird enough to keep things interesting, which we&#8217;ll talk about coming up.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7-_s!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8725c42b-17f7-42eb-abcc-b143ea12f882_1456x971.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7-_s!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8725c42b-17f7-42eb-abcc-b143ea12f882_1456x971.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7-_s!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8725c42b-17f7-42eb-abcc-b143ea12f882_1456x971.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7-_s!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8725c42b-17f7-42eb-abcc-b143ea12f882_1456x971.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7-_s!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8725c42b-17f7-42eb-abcc-b143ea12f882_1456x971.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7-_s!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8725c42b-17f7-42eb-abcc-b143ea12f882_1456x971.jpeg" width="1456" height="971" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/8725c42b-17f7-42eb-abcc-b143ea12f882_1456x971.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:971,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Hand-drawn infographic titled &#8220;PHM&#8217;s Neighborhood: Relative Sizes, Colors &amp; Masses (Compared to the Sun).&#8221; Three nearby stars from Project Hail Mary are shown side-by-side at scale. On the left, the Sun appears as a large yellow G-type star with a mass of 1.00 solar masses (baseline). In the center, Tau Ceti is drawn slightly smaller and paler yellow, labeled as a G-type yellow dwarf with a mass of 0.78 solar masses, about 78% the mass of the Sun. On the right, Erid (40 Eridani A) appears slightly larger than Tau Ceti but smaller than the Sun, colored orange and labeled as a K-type orange dwarf with a mass between 0.80 and 0.85 solar masses. A note at the bottom explains that the stars are drawn to scale by diameter, with the Sun at 1.00, Tau Ceti at approximately 0.79, and Erid at approximately 0.80. The graphic emphasizes that all three stars are broadly similar in size while differing in color, type, and mass.&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Hand-drawn infographic titled &#8220;PHM&#8217;s Neighborhood: Relative Sizes, Colors &amp; Masses (Compared to the Sun).&#8221; Three nearby stars from Project Hail Mary are shown side-by-side at scale. On the left, the Sun appears as a large yellow G-type star with a mass of 1.00 solar masses (baseline). In the center, Tau Ceti is drawn slightly smaller and paler yellow, labeled as a G-type yellow dwarf with a mass of 0.78 solar masses, about 78% the mass of the Sun. On the right, Erid (40 Eridani A) appears slightly larger than Tau Ceti but smaller than the Sun, colored orange and labeled as a K-type orange dwarf with a mass between 0.80 and 0.85 solar masses. A note at the bottom explains that the stars are drawn to scale by diameter, with the Sun at 1.00, Tau Ceti at approximately 0.79, and Erid at approximately 0.80. The graphic emphasizes that all three stars are broadly similar in size while differing in color, type, and mass." title="Hand-drawn infographic titled &#8220;PHM&#8217;s Neighborhood: Relative Sizes, Colors &amp; Masses (Compared to the Sun).&#8221; Three nearby stars from Project Hail Mary are shown side-by-side at scale. On the left, the Sun appears as a large yellow G-type star with a mass of 1.00 solar masses (baseline). In the center, Tau Ceti is drawn slightly smaller and paler yellow, labeled as a G-type yellow dwarf with a mass of 0.78 solar masses, about 78% the mass of the Sun. On the right, Erid (40 Eridani A) appears slightly larger than Tau Ceti but smaller than the Sun, colored orange and labeled as a K-type orange dwarf with a mass between 0.80 and 0.85 solar masses. A note at the bottom explains that the stars are drawn to scale by diameter, with the Sun at 1.00, Tau Ceti at approximately 0.79, and Erid at approximately 0.80. The graphic emphasizes that all three stars are broadly similar in size while differing in color, type, and mass." srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7-_s!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8725c42b-17f7-42eb-abcc-b143ea12f882_1456x971.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7-_s!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8725c42b-17f7-42eb-abcc-b143ea12f882_1456x971.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7-_s!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8725c42b-17f7-42eb-abcc-b143ea12f882_1456x971.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7-_s!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8725c42b-17f7-42eb-abcc-b143ea12f882_1456x971.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><h4><strong>Erid (40 Eridani A)</strong></h4><p>Erid is different.</p><p>The star Rocky calls home (which Grace eventually names &#8220;Erid&#8221;) is known to astronomers as 40 Eridani A. It is a K-type orange dwarf: cooler, dimmer, and longer-lived than the Sun. The &#8220;A&#8221; in its name is to keep track of it - 40 Eridani is a triple-star system, so there&#8217;s 40 Eridani A, B and C.</p><blockquote><p>Side Note: No, we&#8217;re not going to lean into the <em>3-Body Problem</em> here, either. This is <em>Project Hail Mary</em>. Focus.</p></blockquote><p>Erid&#8217;s numbers are close to Tau Ceti&#8217;s in mass and size, but not in color or stellar personality:</p><ul><li><p>about 0.8&#8211;0.85 solar masses</p></li><li><p>about 0.8 solar radii</p></li><li><p>roughly 0.4&#8211;0.5 solar luminosities</p></li></ul><p>That means any potentially habitable planet orbiting Erid needs to orbit closer to Erid than Earth does to the Sun to receive comparable energy if we&#8217;re talking about human life. Which we&#8217;re <em>not</em>.</p><p>The payoff for Erid&#8217;s lower energy output is longevity.</p><p>Stars like the Sun live for roughly ten billion years. K-type stars like Erid can remain stable for several times longer. That matters because life does not care whether a star impresses us.</p><p>Life cares about time.</p><p>A stable environment that lasts for tens of billions of years gives evolution an awful lot of opportunities to try new things.</p><p>And as we&#8217;ll soon discover, these three stars host very different neighborhoods.</p><h2><strong>Habitability and Amenities</strong></h2><p>Before we dig in, let&#8217;s recognize our bias.</p><p>When astronomers talk about a planet being &#8220;habitable,&#8221; they&#8217;re usually talking about conditions that could support life as we know it. That sounds narrow because it is.</p><p>The problem isn&#8217;t a lack of imagination. The problem is a lack of data. We currently have <strong>exactly one</strong> example of a life-bearing world. Earth. Every definition of habitability we use is built from that single sample.</p><p>Liquid water. Moderate temperatures. A stable energy source. An atmosphere thick enough to be useful and thin enough not to crush you. These aren&#8217;t necessarily the <em>universal </em>requirements for life.</p><p>They&#8217;re the requirements shared by every living thing we&#8217;ve ever met.</p><p>This distinction will become important later.</p><h3><strong>Our Solar System</strong></h3><p>If you&#8217;ve ever looked at an astronomy diagram and wondered why every solar system seems to be compared to ours, the answer is simple:</p><p>It&#8217;s the only one we&#8217;ve got.</p><p>The Sun is our home star, our calibration standard, and the source of nearly every assumption we make about how solar systems are supposed to work. This is both reasonable and dangerous.</p><p>Reasonable because Earth is the only life-bearing world we&#8217;ve ever found.</p><p>Dangerous because Earth is the only life-bearing world we&#8217;ve ever found.</p><blockquote><p><strong>Side Note: The Goldilocks Zone</strong></p><p>The Sun&#8217;s habitable zone is the region where temperatures could allow liquid water to exist on a planet&#8217;s surface. Not too hot, not too cold, just right.</p><p>For our Sun, Earth sits comfortably inside this zone at 1 AU (our reference point for basically everything). Venus is a little too close and has paid the price by becoming a pressure cooker wrapped in sulfuric acid clouds. Mars sits near the outer edge and appears to have spent much of its history arguing with itself about whether it wanted to remain habitable.</p><p>Being in the Goldilocks Zone does not guarantee habitability.</p><p>It simply means the thermostat is set correctly.</p><p>The rest of the house still has to be worked on.</p></blockquote><h3><strong>Local Attractions</strong></h3><p>Our Solar System offers a surprisingly diverse set of destinations: inner, rocky planets that include Earth (the only place known to support life), and then the gas giants, each with enough moons to qualify as miniature solar systems in their own right.</p><h3><strong>Debris and Other Hazards</strong></h3><p>The Solar System is remarkably tidy. That&#8217;s not because there isn&#8217;t debris.</p><p>There is.</p><p>The Asteroid Belt between Mars and Jupiter contains millions of rocky bodies. Beyond Neptune lies the Kuiper Belt, home to Pluto and countless icy objects. Far beyond that lurks the Oort Cloud, a vast spherical reservoir of comets that extends almost halfway to the nearest stars.</p><p>But compared to what we&#8217;re about to see, our Solar System looks positively well-maintained.</p><p>The neighborhood association has clearly been doing its job.</p><h2><strong>The Tau Ceti System</strong></h2><p>If the Solar System is the neighborhood&#8217;s well-maintained reference property, Tau Ceti is the house down the street where the yard has gotten a little out of hand.</p><p>At first glance, Tau Ceti looks reassuringly familiar. The star itself is one of the Sun&#8217;s closest cousins: slightly smaller, slightly dimmer, and a bit older. If you were somehow able to stand on a planet orbiting Tau Ceti and look up, the star in the sky would not strike you as wildly alien. You&#8217;d recognize it as a star much like our own.</p><p>The similarities are one reason astronomers have spent so much time studying it. If the Sun and Tau Ceti started with broadly similar ingredients, comparing the two systems gives us a chance to understand how solar systems can evolve in different directions.</p><h3><strong>Local Attractions</strong></h3><p>Current evidence suggests that Tau Ceti hosts between 3 and 5 planets, including several super-Earth candidates. As with many exoplanet discoveries, we don&#8217;t see these planets directly. Instead, we watch Tau Ceti wobble slightly as unseen worlds tug on it with their gravity.</p><p>This means the exact planetary census around Tau Ceti remains a work in progress. As instruments improve and additional observations accumulate, the details continue to be refined. That&#8217;s not astronomers being indecisive. It&#8217;s astronomers doing exactly what they&#8217;re supposed to do when new evidence arrives.</p><p>Some of the planets may lie within or near the system&#8217;s habitable zone. Whether any of them are actually habitable is a different question entirely.</p><h3><strong>Debris and Other Hazards</strong></h3><p>The biggest difference between the Solar System and Tau Ceti isn&#8217;t the planets.</p><p>It&#8217;s the leftovers.</p><p>Surrounding Tau Ceti is a massive debris disk containing far more material than we find in our own Solar System. Depending on which estimates you use, the system may contain roughly ten times as much cometary and asteroidal material as ours.</p><p>That&#8217;s a lot of leftover construction debris.</p><p>The implication is fairly straightforward. If planets are orbiting Tau Ceti, they are likely sharing the neighborhood with considerably more asteroids and comets than Earth does. Over long periods, that could mean more impacts, more disruption, and fewer opportunities for a planet&#8217;s surface environment to remain stable for billions of years.</p><p>That doesn&#8217;t make life impossible. Life has proven remarkably stubborn here on Earth. It does suggest, however, that a habitable-zone planet around Tau Ceti may have a more eventful history than our own.</p><p>Tau Ceti feels familiar enough to be recognizable, but different enough to remind us that solar systems are not manufactured from a standard template.</p><h2><strong>The 40 Eridani System</strong></h2><p>While Tau Ceti is one of the Sun&#8217;s closest cousins, 40 Eridani A belongs to a somewhat more complicated family.</p><p>As mentioned earlier, 40 Eridani is not a solitary star. It is part of a triple-star system. The primary star, 40 Eridani A, is an orange dwarf. Orbiting far away are two stellar companions: 40 Eridani B, a white dwarf, and 40 Eridani C, a red dwarf.</p><p>That&#8217;s already enough to make the system interesting.</p><p>One member of the family is still in the prime of its life (A). Another has reached stellar retirement and shed its outer layers (B). The third is a small, efficient star that may continue shining long after the others are gone (C).</p><h3><strong>Local Attractions</strong></h3><p>The main attraction here is the star itself.</p><p>As an orange dwarf, 40 Eridani A occupies a sweet spot that has attracted increasing attention from astronomers over the last few decades. It is smaller and dimmer than the Sun, but not dramatically so. A planet receiving Earth-like levels of energy would need to orbit somewhat closer to the star than Earth does to the Sun, but not so close that it would face some of the challenges associated with smaller red dwarf stars.</p><p>Stars like 40 Eridani A burn their fuel slowly.</p><p>Very slowly.</p><p>Current models suggest that orange dwarfs can remain stable for tens of billions of years&#8212;long enough that the Sun will be a memory before they&#8217;re done. And potentially long enough for biological and geological processes to play out over extraordinary stretches of time.</p><p>When astronomers talk about promising stars for long-term habitability, orange dwarfs frequently find themselves near the top of the list.</p><p>Exoplanet searches around 40 Eridani A have produced intriguing but inconclusive results, with some research suggesting a single planet closer to the star than Mercury is to our Sun, far inside the Sun&#8217;s habitable zone.</p><blockquote><p><strong>Side Note: Erid and Science Fiction</strong> </p><p>Writers seem to look at 40 Eridani A and have the same reaction astronomers do: &#8216;There&#8217;s probably something interesting there.&#8217;</p><p>Andy Weir wasn&#8217;t the first to place a planet that supports life around the star. In Star Trek, the star is home to the planet Vulcan, while in the Dune universe, the fourth planet in the star&#8217;s system is Richese, home to a technologically advanced culture.</p></blockquote><h3><strong>Debris and Other Hazards</strong></h3><p>While exoplanets have not yet been confirmed for 40 Eridani A, neither has a massive debris disk surrounding the star. If such a structure exists, it appears to be far less prominent than the one that dominates Tau Ceti&#8217;s outer regions.</p><p>For anyone hoping for long-term planetary stability, that&#8217;s good news.</p><p>Large debris disks can act as reservoirs of comets and asteroids, increasing the likelihood of impacts over long periods. Without evidence for a substantial disk, 40 Eridani A appears, at least from our current vantage point, to be a comparatively orderly environment.</p><p>Of course, astronomy has a habit of humbling anyone who becomes too confident. Future observations may reveal additional surprises.</p><p>For now, however, 40 Eridani stands out not because of what surrounds it, but because of what the star itself offers: stability, longevity, and time.</p><p>Lots and lots of time.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.thescienceof.org/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><h2><strong>Getting There</strong></h2><p><em>Project Hail Mary</em> needed, essentially, magic to get Ryland Grace to Tau Ceti, and used the astonishingly convenient properties of <a href="https://www.thescienceof.org/p/a-field-guide-to-astrophage?r=skte">Astrophage</a> to do it.</p><p>The problem with traveling to nearby stars isn&#8217;t speed. The problem is <em>enough </em>speed.</p><p>The stars in our little neighborhood are between 12 and 16 light-years away. At the speeds achieved by current spacecraft, the trip would take tens of thousands of years. That&#8217;s less &#8220;vacation&#8221; and more &#8220;geological process.&#8221;</p><p>Astrophage made the problem workable, powering the spacecraft to achieve a speed that is a significant fraction of the speed of light.</p><p>And that&#8217;s where things get weird. Keeping track of deadlines in Project Hail Mary got a little weird. Earth had only a limited amount of time before environmental catastrophe, the trip to Tau Ceti would take years, and any solution would then need years more to make its way back home.</p><p>Huh?</p><p>It&#8217;s workable, but you have to invite Einstein to your party.</p><p>Okay - light touch.</p><h3><strong>Travel Time and Time Zone Considerations</strong></h3><p>Keeping things as simple as possible, one of the stranger consequences of Einstein&#8217;s theory of relativity is that time itself doesn&#8217;t pass at the same rate for everyone.</p><p>The faster you move, the more slowly time passes for you compared to people who stay behind. It&#8217;s not by much at everyday speeds, but at a substantial fraction of the speed of light, the effect becomes impossible to ignore.</p><p>Ryland Grace and the Hail Mary crew don&#8217;t just travel a great distance. They travel in a way that causes their clocks to run more slowly than clocks back on Earth. The trip still takes years, just not the same number of years for everyone involved.</p><p>If the Hail Mary reached roughly 92% of the speed of light, then, thanks to time dilation, the crew only experienced around 5 years of travel time. Still long enough to require the coma technology, of which Grace turned out to be the only beneficiary. Back on Earth, 13 years would pass.</p><p>If you want math, I&#8217;ve got math &#8212; but be warned: for pretty high-concept physics, the time dilation formula and Lorentz factors are really easy to calculate.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nwXb!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb4afae2a-977b-4e8f-ac65-83a827300bc1_1456x971.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nwXb!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb4afae2a-977b-4e8f-ac65-83a827300bc1_1456x971.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nwXb!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb4afae2a-977b-4e8f-ac65-83a827300bc1_1456x971.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nwXb!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb4afae2a-977b-4e8f-ac65-83a827300bc1_1456x971.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nwXb!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb4afae2a-977b-4e8f-ac65-83a827300bc1_1456x971.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nwXb!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb4afae2a-977b-4e8f-ac65-83a827300bc1_1456x971.jpeg" width="1456" height="971" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/b4afae2a-977b-4e8f-ac65-83a827300bc1_1456x971.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:971,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Hand-drawn whiteboard-style infographic titled &#8220;Time Dilation &amp; the Lorentz Factor.&#8221; The graphic explains how Einstein&#8217;s theory of relativity affects the passage of time during near-light-speed travel using Project Hail Mary as an example.  The left side presents Einstein&#8217;s time dilation equation, &#916;t&#8242; = &#916;t / &#947;, with definitions of the variables and a note explaining that as speed increases, the Lorentz factor (&#947;) increases and time passes more slowly for the traveler. A worked example lists the Hail Mary traveling at 0.92 times the speed of light to Tau Ceti, 11.9 light-years away, with approximately 13 years passing on Earth.  The right side shows the Lorentz factor equation and a step-by-step calculation using a speed of 0.92c, resulting in a Lorentz factor of approximately 2.55. A highlighted box explains the consequence: if 13 years pass on Earth, the traveler experiences only about 5.1 years. A reference table compares Lorentz factors and the relative passage of time at speeds from 0.50c to 0.99c, showing increasingly dramatic time dilation as velocity approaches the speed of light.  A concluding note at the bottom summarizes the concept: &#8220;Same distance. Different experience of time.&#8221; The overall style resembles a classroom whiteboard explainer with handwritten notes, color-coded equations, and worked calculations.&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Hand-drawn whiteboard-style infographic titled &#8220;Time Dilation &amp; the Lorentz Factor.&#8221; The graphic explains how Einstein&#8217;s theory of relativity affects the passage of time during near-light-speed travel using Project Hail Mary as an example.  The left side presents Einstein&#8217;s time dilation equation, &#916;t&#8242; = &#916;t / &#947;, with definitions of the variables and a note explaining that as speed increases, the Lorentz factor (&#947;) increases and time passes more slowly for the traveler. A worked example lists the Hail Mary traveling at 0.92 times the speed of light to Tau Ceti, 11.9 light-years away, with approximately 13 years passing on Earth.  The right side shows the Lorentz factor equation and a step-by-step calculation using a speed of 0.92c, resulting in a Lorentz factor of approximately 2.55. A highlighted box explains the consequence: if 13 years pass on Earth, the traveler experiences only about 5.1 years. A reference table compares Lorentz factors and the relative passage of time at speeds from 0.50c to 0.99c, showing increasingly dramatic time dilation as velocity approaches the speed of light.  A concluding note at the bottom summarizes the concept: &#8220;Same distance. Different experience of time.&#8221; The overall style resembles a classroom whiteboard explainer with handwritten notes, color-coded equations, and worked calculations." title="Hand-drawn whiteboard-style infographic titled &#8220;Time Dilation &amp; the Lorentz Factor.&#8221; The graphic explains how Einstein&#8217;s theory of relativity affects the passage of time during near-light-speed travel using Project Hail Mary as an example.  The left side presents Einstein&#8217;s time dilation equation, &#916;t&#8242; = &#916;t / &#947;, with definitions of the variables and a note explaining that as speed increases, the Lorentz factor (&#947;) increases and time passes more slowly for the traveler. A worked example lists the Hail Mary traveling at 0.92 times the speed of light to Tau Ceti, 11.9 light-years away, with approximately 13 years passing on Earth.  The right side shows the Lorentz factor equation and a step-by-step calculation using a speed of 0.92c, resulting in a Lorentz factor of approximately 2.55. A highlighted box explains the consequence: if 13 years pass on Earth, the traveler experiences only about 5.1 years. A reference table compares Lorentz factors and the relative passage of time at speeds from 0.50c to 0.99c, showing increasingly dramatic time dilation as velocity approaches the speed of light.  A concluding note at the bottom summarizes the concept: &#8220;Same distance. 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Add in the return trip for the Beetles, and you&#8217;re looking at roughly a quarter-century between launch and solution.</p><p>As for Grace and Rocky, time is different. Everyone on earth is a quarter century older by the end of the story; Grace has aged more slowly. As he explains near the end of the novel, he&#8217;s given up trying to figure out how old he is; his best guess is that he&#8217;s biologically in his mid-50s, but chronologically, by an earth-based measure, he&#8217;s in his early 70s.</p><p>Time is not the same at any two points in the universe. It&#8217;s not a bug; it&#8217;s a feature.</p><h2><strong>The Neighborhood</strong></h2><p>At the beginning of this article, I described the Sun, Tau Ceti, and Erid as a galactic cul-de-sac.</p><p>That wasn&#8217;t entirely a joke.</p><p>On human scales, these systems are impossibly far apart. The nearest is nearly twelve light-years away. The farthest is more than sixteen. Even with <a href="https://www.thescienceof.org/p/a-field-guide-to-astrophage?r=skte">Astrophage</a>, the trip takes years. Without it, the journey becomes the sort of thing that civilizations attempt rather than that people do.</p><p>And yet, on the scale of the Milky Way, these three stars are practically neighbors.</p><p>One hosts the only known life-bearing world in the universe, one appears to be surrounded by far more planetary debris than our own Solar System, and one may remain stable for tens of billions of years after the Sun has finished its work.</p><p>Three nearby stars.</p><p>Three very different stories.</p><p>That&#8217;s one of the lessons hidden inside <em>Project Hail Mary</em>. The universe doesn&#8217;t need to be exotic to be interesting. Sometimes all you have to do is look closely at the neighborhood.</p><p>The next time you see Tau Ceti or 40 Eridani A mentioned in a science article, a science fiction novel, or a planetarium show, remember that they aren&#8217;t abstract dots on a star chart.</p><p>They&#8217;re places.</p><p>Real stars.</p><p>Real systems.</p><p>Real neighborhoods orbiting quietly around the same galaxy as our own.</p><p>And they&#8217;re close enough that, for a brief moment in one very good novel, a science teacher managed to visit them.</p><p><em>Your homework: using your favorite astronomy app, go out and spot Tau Ceti and 40 Eridani A. Both are visible to the naked eye.</em></p><p><em><strong>Curiosity is what brought me here.</strong></em></p><p><em><strong>Teaching is what I do with it.</strong></em></p><p><em><strong>If you&#8217;d like to read more about education, classrooms, students, and the craft of teaching, you&#8217;ll find those stories in <a href="https://bradyteach.substack.com/">Teacher, Teacher</a>.</strong></em></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[The Naked Guy in the Circle: Why Comics Can't Quit the Vitruvian Man]]></title><description><![CDATA[From Leonardo da Vinci to Batman, the surprising science behind pop culture's favorite pose.]]></description><link>https://www.thescienceof.org/p/why-the-vitruvian-man-keeps-showing-up-in-comics</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.thescienceof.org/p/why-the-vitruvian-man-keeps-showing-up-in-comics</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt Brady]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2026 18:53:28 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/ab9fd573-d305-426c-bfd2-d9ac534679e5_647x390.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Artifact Recovered: original publication date: 8/5/22</em></p><p><em>This piece was originally published on a previous version of The Science Of and has been recovered from the digital strata. Its lightly edited version is represented here because it&#8217;s useful, weird, fascinating, updated, or some combination of the four.</em></p><p>DC Comics&#8217; <strong>Fury of Firestorm #2</strong> had a cover with a familiar look to it.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LGB4!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcb3e5631-cbc4-46e5-8073-b55e72c907b8_501x766.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LGB4!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcb3e5631-cbc4-46e5-8073-b55e72c907b8_501x766.png 424w, 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srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LGB4!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcb3e5631-cbc4-46e5-8073-b55e72c907b8_501x766.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LGB4!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcb3e5631-cbc4-46e5-8073-b55e72c907b8_501x766.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LGB4!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcb3e5631-cbc4-46e5-8073-b55e72c907b8_501x766.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LGB4!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcb3e5631-cbc4-46e5-8073-b55e72c907b8_501x766.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div 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stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>The issue continues the tradition of Leonardo da Vinci&#8217;s famous <em>Vitruvian Man</em> sketch appearing on comic book covers.</p><p>Vitru-whovian Man?</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.thescienceof.org/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p>While Leonardo put the sketch to paper, he named it after the observations of <a href="https://mathshistory.st-andrews.ac.uk/Biographies/Vitruvius/">Marcus Vitruvius Pollio</a>, a Roman architect from the time of Caesar Augustus (ca. 80 - 70 BCE - 15 BCE). Vitrivius&#8217; observations about the proportions of a human being were among the first ever recorded and included many different ratios:</p><ul><li><p>From the chin to the top of the forehead is 1/10 of the person&#8217;s height.</p></li><li><p>From the wrist to the tip of the middle finger is also 1/10 of the height</p></li><li><p>From the chin to the crown of the head is &#8539; height</p></li><li><p>From the bottom of the neck (in line with the tops of the shoulders) is &#8537; height</p></li><li><p>Mid-chest to the top of the head is &#188; height</p></li><li><p>The length of the foot is &#8537; of the height</p></li><li><p>The length of the forearm is &#188; of the height</p></li><li><p>The breadth of the chest is &#188; of the height</p></li></ul><p>And, of course, the circle thing. As Vitruvius wrote in Book III of his <em>Ten Books on Architecture</em>,</p><p>&#8220;<em>For if a man be placed flat on his back, with his hands and feet extended, and a pair of compasses centered at his navel, the fingers and toes of his two hands and feet will touch the circumference of a circle described therefrom. And just as the human body yields a circular outline, so too a square figure may be found from it. For if we measure the distance from the soles of the feet to the top of the head and then apply that measure to the outstretched arms, the breadth will be found to be the same as the height, as in the case of plane surfaces which are perfectly square</em>.&#8221;</p><p>As a result, Vitruvius&#8217; version looks like this:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fqhU!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F24071f48-7431-468c-88d8-c9555b47f445_647x921.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fqhU!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F24071f48-7431-468c-88d8-c9555b47f445_647x921.jpeg 424w, 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stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>To make the human figure fit in both the circle and the square, the hands and feet needed to be stretched, or &#8220;mildly Cronenberged.&#8221; (Cesare Cesariano, Vitruvian Man, Woodcut, 1521)</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>Vitruvius himself pointed out that these measurements didn&#8217;t originate with him. They came largely from his observations of sculptors and artists of antiquity.</p><p>Over the centuries since he put the ideas to paper, Vitruvius&#8217; man was illustrated by countless artists, but da Vinci&#8217;s is the one that stands out. No shade-throwing at modern comic book cover artists intended.</p><h1>LEONARDO&#8217;S OG VITRUVIAN MAN</h1><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!a-xU!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8539f170-7d0a-46ae-925f-863853786813_960x1305.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!a-xU!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8539f170-7d0a-46ae-925f-863853786813_960x1305.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!a-xU!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8539f170-7d0a-46ae-925f-863853786813_960x1305.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!a-xU!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8539f170-7d0a-46ae-925f-863853786813_960x1305.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!a-xU!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8539f170-7d0a-46ae-925f-863853786813_960x1305.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!a-xU!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8539f170-7d0a-46ae-925f-863853786813_960x1305.jpeg" width="630" height="856.40625" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/8539f170-7d0a-46ae-925f-863853786813_960x1305.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1305,&quot;width&quot;:960,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:630,&quot;bytes&quot;:579906,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/i/200651856?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8539f170-7d0a-46ae-925f-863853786813_960x1305.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!a-xU!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8539f170-7d0a-46ae-925f-863853786813_960x1305.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!a-xU!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8539f170-7d0a-46ae-925f-863853786813_960x1305.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!a-xU!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8539f170-7d0a-46ae-925f-863853786813_960x1305.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!a-xU!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8539f170-7d0a-46ae-925f-863853786813_960x1305.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>The original, by Leonardo - doing his own thing. (photo: Luc Viatour / https://Lucnix.be)</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>First sketched around 1490 by da Vinci, the work is still debated by scholars over whether it&#8217;s worth the title the artist used. Leonardo pointed out (and his illustration reflects this) that Vitruvius&#8217; square and circle cannot share the same center.</p><p>At least with humans as we know them.</p><p>As a result, Leonardo&#8217;s figure is centered at the groin rather than the navel, pulling the square down so it doesn&#8217;t rest inside the circle. Along with centering the figure differently, Leonardo showed the figure with hands raised to the top of its head, then superimposed the image on top of the other. The result is a figure with 16 different poses that owes as much, if not more, to Leonardo as to Vitruvius.</p><p>Also a scientist (and honestly one of history&#8217;s most aggressively curious people), Leonardo based his Vitruvian Man on data. He took meticulous measurements of Italian models and let that inform his final result. One cool note on Leonardo&#8217;s version is that the text at the top and bottom is in his iconic &#8220;<a href="https://www.openculture.com/2017/11/why-did-leonardo-da-vinci-write-backwards-a-look-into-the-ultimate-renaissance-mans-mirror-writing.html">mirror writing</a>.&#8221; It&#8217;s written backward on the page but can be read normally by viewing the text&#8217;s reflection in a mirror.</p><p>While based on the work of the ancient architect, Leonardo&#8217;s <em>Vitruvian Man</em> was a radical statement for his time, one of the countless<a href="https://www.exploringart.co/vitruvian-man-importance/"> thought-bombs of the </a>Renaissance. The image put humanity at the center of two perfect shapes: the circle and the square. Instead of being passive observers of the universe, people could understand it, measure it, and perhaps even shape it. In line with Humanist ideals of the age, Leonardo&#8217;s work shows that man &#8212; in body, mind, and soul &#8212; is the center of the universe.</p><p>On that last one, perhaps HBO&#8217;s <em>Westworld</em> employs the Vitruvian Man motif the best. In the series, the robotic hosts produced by Delos, first to populate the park and then in later seasons to take over the earth, are meant to be perfected versions of their human &#8220;ancestors.&#8221; What better way to show them as perfect than to put them in a pose tied to the ideal human proportions?</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YBVe!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb8bbdfcf-4c79-4f2d-9f1a-08a10d52da4b_5748x3233.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YBVe!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb8bbdfcf-4c79-4f2d-9f1a-08a10d52da4b_5748x3233.jpeg 424w, 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" 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href="https://www.thescienceof.org/p/why-the-vitruvian-man-keeps-showing-up-in-comics?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p><h1>WHY DOES THIS KEEP SHOWING UP?</h1><p>Art is hard, and established proportions are a quick cheat for drawing people?</p><p>Okay - that&#8217;s oversimplifying, but the core is there.</p><p>Lessons on drawing the human body (and many other animals) rest on proportions. Vitruvius&#8217; list of proportions in <em>Ten Books on Architecture</em> documents <em>only some</em> of the proportions that artists and other observers have realized over the centuries. For example, the pelvis&#8217;s width is the head&#8217;s height plus one-third of the face. The width of the foot is one-half the height of the head. The list goes on and on, most often expressing the human form in terms of the head as a unit of measurement.</p><p>It&#8217;s also eye-catching on the stands, amid a sea of other covers, blending into a wall of color. It pops, even with the familiarity that it carries. It&#8217;s also a way to produce a character reference pose and can suggest meaning for the story inside. In <strong>Flashpoint Beyond #4</strong>, for instance, Thomas Wayne is hunting the Clockwork Killer, so a clockwork theme informs the interior. While there is no iconic square with Batman in the image, the character is a natural for a Vitruvian homage, given Wayne&#8217;s obsession with physical and mental perfection.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!tqg3!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F23c15214-a7ae-4d5b-b78d-b5a56fb10f03_600x944.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!tqg3!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F23c15214-a7ae-4d5b-b78d-b5a56fb10f03_600x944.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!tqg3!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F23c15214-a7ae-4d5b-b78d-b5a56fb10f03_600x944.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!tqg3!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F23c15214-a7ae-4d5b-b78d-b5a56fb10f03_600x944.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!tqg3!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F23c15214-a7ae-4d5b-b78d-b5a56fb10f03_600x944.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!tqg3!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F23c15214-a7ae-4d5b-b78d-b5a56fb10f03_600x944.jpeg" width="600" height="944" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/23c15214-a7ae-4d5b-b78d-b5a56fb10f03_600x944.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:944,&quot;width&quot;:600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:199705,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/i/200651856?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F23c15214-a7ae-4d5b-b78d-b5a56fb10f03_600x944.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!tqg3!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F23c15214-a7ae-4d5b-b78d-b5a56fb10f03_600x944.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!tqg3!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F23c15214-a7ae-4d5b-b78d-b5a56fb10f03_600x944.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!tqg3!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F23c15214-a7ae-4d5b-b78d-b5a56fb10f03_600x944.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!tqg3!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F23c15214-a7ae-4d5b-b78d-b5a56fb10f03_600x944.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>As for other comics, how about a quick gallery...</p><p>Galactus? we&#8217;ve got Gatlactus. </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bk6p!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F281329f7-2f9d-46c9-ae01-09ba5b58d888_843x1280.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bk6p!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F281329f7-2f9d-46c9-ae01-09ba5b58d888_843x1280.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bk6p!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F281329f7-2f9d-46c9-ae01-09ba5b58d888_843x1280.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bk6p!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F281329f7-2f9d-46c9-ae01-09ba5b58d888_843x1280.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bk6p!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F281329f7-2f9d-46c9-ae01-09ba5b58d888_843x1280.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bk6p!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F281329f7-2f9d-46c9-ae01-09ba5b58d888_843x1280.jpeg" width="604" height="917.1055753262159" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/281329f7-2f9d-46c9-ae01-09ba5b58d888_843x1280.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1280,&quot;width&quot;:843,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:604,&quot;bytes&quot;:409198,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/i/200651856?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F281329f7-2f9d-46c9-ae01-09ba5b58d888_843x1280.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bk6p!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F281329f7-2f9d-46c9-ae01-09ba5b58d888_843x1280.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bk6p!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F281329f7-2f9d-46c9-ae01-09ba5b58d888_843x1280.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bk6p!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F281329f7-2f9d-46c9-ae01-09ba5b58d888_843x1280.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bk6p!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F281329f7-2f9d-46c9-ae01-09ba5b58d888_843x1280.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Big coffee table books about DC superhero anatomy? Sure</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!c4DA!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F07b5c303-de2d-4b2a-9bbf-32d69fdb640d_696x960.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!c4DA!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F07b5c303-de2d-4b2a-9bbf-32d69fdb640d_696x960.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!c4DA!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F07b5c303-de2d-4b2a-9bbf-32d69fdb640d_696x960.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!c4DA!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F07b5c303-de2d-4b2a-9bbf-32d69fdb640d_696x960.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!c4DA!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F07b5c303-de2d-4b2a-9bbf-32d69fdb640d_696x960.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!c4DA!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F07b5c303-de2d-4b2a-9bbf-32d69fdb640d_696x960.jpeg" width="634" height="874.4827586206897" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/07b5c303-de2d-4b2a-9bbf-32d69fdb640d_696x960.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:960,&quot;width&quot;:696,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:634,&quot;bytes&quot;:113354,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/i/200651856?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F07b5c303-de2d-4b2a-9bbf-32d69fdb640d_696x960.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!c4DA!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F07b5c303-de2d-4b2a-9bbf-32d69fdb640d_696x960.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!c4DA!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F07b5c303-de2d-4b2a-9bbf-32d69fdb640d_696x960.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!c4DA!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F07b5c303-de2d-4b2a-9bbf-32d69fdb640d_696x960.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!c4DA!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F07b5c303-de2d-4b2a-9bbf-32d69fdb640d_696x960.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Wonder Woman? Of course (issue #604, by the way)&#8230;</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!X_yr!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc86a83da-6806-44b2-970f-e35b4bcd230f_1273x1920.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!X_yr!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc86a83da-6806-44b2-970f-e35b4bcd230f_1273x1920.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!X_yr!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc86a83da-6806-44b2-970f-e35b4bcd230f_1273x1920.jpeg 848w, 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Doctor Doom? If anyone would voluntarily pose as the ideal human form, it would be Doctor Doom.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!N7C5!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4a7a8513-2347-4812-ac2b-75e5f350d1eb_400x607.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!N7C5!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4a7a8513-2347-4812-ac2b-75e5f350d1eb_400x607.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!N7C5!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4a7a8513-2347-4812-ac2b-75e5f350d1eb_400x607.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!N7C5!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4a7a8513-2347-4812-ac2b-75e5f350d1eb_400x607.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!N7C5!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4a7a8513-2347-4812-ac2b-75e5f350d1eb_400x607.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!N7C5!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4a7a8513-2347-4812-ac2b-75e5f350d1eb_400x607.jpeg" width="578" height="877.115" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/4a7a8513-2347-4812-ac2b-75e5f350d1eb_400x607.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:607,&quot;width&quot;:400,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:578,&quot;bytes&quot;:73570,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/i/200651856?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4a7a8513-2347-4812-ac2b-75e5f350d1eb_400x607.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!N7C5!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4a7a8513-2347-4812-ac2b-75e5f350d1eb_400x607.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!N7C5!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4a7a8513-2347-4812-ac2b-75e5f350d1eb_400x607.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!N7C5!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4a7a8513-2347-4812-ac2b-75e5f350d1eb_400x607.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!N7C5!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4a7a8513-2347-4812-ac2b-75e5f350d1eb_400x607.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Flash has two and counting&#8230;</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jRbv!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4d3d6712-7e46-4c50-a4b3-1b3270434077_593x911.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jRbv!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4d3d6712-7e46-4c50-a4b3-1b3270434077_593x911.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jRbv!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4d3d6712-7e46-4c50-a4b3-1b3270434077_593x911.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jRbv!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4d3d6712-7e46-4c50-a4b3-1b3270434077_593x911.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jRbv!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4d3d6712-7e46-4c50-a4b3-1b3270434077_593x911.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img 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If you&#8217;re looking for a theme to your comics collection, there are worse.</p><p>Make Vitruvian Man a character and put him inside a comic? Sure...been there. And the results were...troubling. The character &#8220;Vitruvian Man&#8221; (Piero Rosci) showed up in DC Comics&#8217; relaunched <strong>Stormwatch</strong> series in issue #9 by Peter Milligan and Miguel Sepulveda. Rosci had been changed by a former incarnation of Stormwatch, based on da Vinci&#8217;s drawing. Yeah.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6-Qu!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa8a609cf-217d-4f00-af7b-6c4e3d6871b1_480x327.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6-Qu!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa8a609cf-217d-4f00-af7b-6c4e3d6871b1_480x327.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6-Qu!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa8a609cf-217d-4f00-af7b-6c4e3d6871b1_480x327.jpeg 848w, 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stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em> A little bit of the origin...and it feels like he&#8217;s quoting an &#8216;80s power ballad.</em></figcaption></figure></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RyvZ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb6c90740-d3ea-4ff4-9f66-605325fb03c2_587x456.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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All in one issue!</figcaption></figure></div><p>For equally horrifying measure, a giant &#8220;Vitruvian Man&#8221; showed up in Boom Studios&#8217; <strong>Mighty Morphin&#8217; Power Rangers #5, </strong>with predictably horrifying results.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FKI5!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff8d01e2f-cbab-4be8-8bf4-d8a4093223c0_377x557.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FKI5!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff8d01e2f-cbab-4be8-8bf4-d8a4093223c0_377x557.jpeg 424w, 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And why? And a profound thank you to the artist for not showing his junk. #somanyquestions (Boom)</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>Probably should point out here that using Vitruvian Man for a body horror character is about as 180 degrees as you can go from the original intent of both Vitruvius, Leonardo, and every artist who&#8217;s tried to make their own representation. Vitruvian Man does not have four arms. A human with four arms is not ideal.</p><p>And if you&#8217;re really keeping track, Leonardo himself is a major figure in the history of the Marvel Universe...first appearing in 1956&#8217;s <strong>Mystery Tales #41,</strong> and then pulled into the history of SHIELD by Jonathan Hickman and a variety of other creators in <strong>SHIELD</strong> series in 2010.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4m4w!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe05b4ce5-528f-421c-aa0f-b333497c488f_632x960.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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In this case, it was Leonid, a Deviant-human hybrid named Leonid. </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jlqP!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb8c68e9c-6151-421d-9354-cabaf3f3e9e6_696x1071.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jlqP!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb8c68e9c-6151-421d-9354-cabaf3f3e9e6_696x1071.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jlqP!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb8c68e9c-6151-421d-9354-cabaf3f3e9e6_696x1071.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jlqP!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb8c68e9c-6151-421d-9354-cabaf3f3e9e6_696x1071.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jlqP!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb8c68e9c-6151-421d-9354-cabaf3f3e9e6_696x1071.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jlqP!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb8c68e9c-6151-421d-9354-cabaf3f3e9e6_696x1071.png" width="640" height="984.8275862068965" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/b8c68e9c-6151-421d-9354-cabaf3f3e9e6_696x1071.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1071,&quot;width&quot;:696,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:640,&quot;bytes&quot;:1638647,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/i/200651856?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb8c68e9c-6151-421d-9354-cabaf3f3e9e6_696x1071.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jlqP!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb8c68e9c-6151-421d-9354-cabaf3f3e9e6_696x1071.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jlqP!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb8c68e9c-6151-421d-9354-cabaf3f3e9e6_696x1071.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jlqP!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb8c68e9c-6151-421d-9354-cabaf3f3e9e6_696x1071.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jlqP!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb8c68e9c-6151-421d-9354-cabaf3f3e9e6_696x1071.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>While the above is just scratching the surface of offical, published comics, there are thousands of fan-produced homages and pastiches out there. While we couldn&#8217;t find anything that was official in this vein, the one that makes the most sense is:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VqNW!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd972ba26-6ce7-470f-bb9e-c1d8ca0b05cd_735x727.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VqNW!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd972ba26-6ce7-470f-bb9e-c1d8ca0b05cd_735x727.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VqNW!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd972ba26-6ce7-470f-bb9e-c1d8ca0b05cd_735x727.jpeg 848w, 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stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><h1>STEM LEARNING APPLICATIONS</h1><p>Vitruvian Man is at the heart of the often-used wingspan-to-height measurement/graphing exercise.</p><p>Using the classic Vitruvian Man as an example (warning: it shows his junk, out there for everyone to see), have students measure their wingspan (from middle fingertip to middle fingertip) and their shoeless height. While individual measurements will vary from student to student, the class data, when graphed, will show a clear trend. A quick calculation shows that the slope of the data is close to 1.</p><p><a href="https://www.researchgate.net/publication/281526311_Correlative_study_of_wingspan_armspan_length_and_body_length_in_students_of_SEGi_University_Malaysia">Some studies</a> report that, on average, the male wingspan-to-height ratio is greater than 1, while that of women tends to be closer to Leonardo&#8217;s expected value. In males, sometimes this difference is extreme - in the<a href="https://therookiewire.usatoday.com/gallery/nba-draft-combine-longest-wingspan-difference/"> 2019 NBA Draft Combine</a>, Tacko Fall&#8217;s measurements came in with an 8-foot, 2.25-inch wingspan compared to a height of 7 feet, 5.25 inches. That&#8217;s circle-busting as far as Vitruvian Man is concerned, but not close to the record holders. </p><p>According to <em>Rookie Wire</em>, seven players have wingspans that are ten inches (or more) larger than their heights, with the record held by Doug Wren, whose wingspan was 13.75 inches greater than his height of 6 feet, 5.75 inches.</p><p>A wingspan-to-height ratio of greater than one doesn&#8217;t land you a starting position, though. Wren went undrafted by the NBA in 2003 but did play basketball for teams in Iceland, Montenegro, and Korea.</p><p>In many sports, the difference between wingspan and ratio is referred to as the &#8220;<a href="https://www.99boulders.com/ape-index-calculator#">ape index</a>,&#8221; and high values are seen in MMA fighters, boxers, and mountain climbers, to name a few.</p><p>Scientific American has an excellent outline for activities (along with images of a clothed Virtruvian figure)<a href="https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/human-body-ratios"> here</a>. Still, you&#8217;ll need to adjust and adapt for whole-class activities that tie in a slope calculation. Better yet - build your own, integrating data collection, graphing, finding reliable online resources, and a template for students to draw themselves, a character, or a data outlier as Vitruvian Man.</p><p>Final note - of course, there&#8217;s<a href="https://www.amazon.com/FREEing-Museum-Vitruvian-Action-Figure/dp/B01GCD9VHG"> an action figure</a>.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Hwkg!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe06e4a49-508c-41d2-9829-73439cd3bf6c_1000x970.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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url="https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/e3a46267-2602-4bf6-8fef-e6a299a8e0f1_843x612.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We just watched the atmosphere catch fire.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UY76!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3e1e5572-128f-4e74-9380-022dda53140d_1500x787.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UY76!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3e1e5572-128f-4e74-9380-022dda53140d_1500x787.png 424w, 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data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/3e1e5572-128f-4e74-9380-022dda53140d_1500x787.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:764,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Orion spacecraft reentering Earth&#8217;s atmosphere at high speed, surrounded by a bright orange plasma glow caused by compressed and superheated air.&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:true,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Orion spacecraft reentering Earth&#8217;s atmosphere at high speed, surrounded by a bright orange plasma glow caused by compressed and superheated air." title="Orion spacecraft reentering Earth&#8217;s atmosphere at high speed, surrounded by a bright orange plasma glow caused by compressed and superheated air." srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UY76!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3e1e5572-128f-4e74-9380-022dda53140d_1500x787.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UY76!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3e1e5572-128f-4e74-9380-022dda53140d_1500x787.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UY76!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3e1e5572-128f-4e74-9380-022dda53140d_1500x787.png 1272w, 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engineering&#8212; it looked like the sky was trying to burn the spacecraft right out of existence.</p><p>The Orion capsule hit the upper atmosphere and was quickly wrapped in a glowing sheath &#8212; <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L58pWzCsR5I">the video from inside, looking out, was terrifying</a>. It was orange and white,  and flickering like it was alive. When my physics students see that kind of thing, they go right to friction. Friction opposes forward motion and produces heat. What we saw must have been due to friction.</p><p>That&#8217;s a good &#8220;gut&#8221; answer, but it&#8217;s not a good &#8220;head&#8221; answer. It feels right, but it doesn&#8217;t quite feel right when physics enters the chat.</p><p>The capsule wasn&#8217;t burning &#8212; the air was breaking.</p><p>The Orion was moving through the upper atmosphere at about 11 km per second (close to 25,000 mph). That&#8217;s so fast that air can&#8217;t act like a fluid and flow around it. The capsule was smashing through the air, colliding hard with air molecules (nitrogen, oxygen, a few trace gases). They don&#8217;t have time to get out of the way.</p><p>The air couldn&#8217;t flow, so it compressed. It got squeezed so that the same amount of air occupied less volume.</p><p>Air molecules typically move at a few hundred meters per second (around 340 m/s at room temperature). Take them, and push them into a smaller space; they&#8217;ll move faster and hit each other more often. At the atomic level, the speed of a particle is directly related to how much heat energy it has, so squeeze a gas, you get a hot gas. That&#8217;s partly why a hand pump heats up when you&#8217;re pumping up a bike tire &#8212; you&#8217;re compressing gas over and over again.</p><p>But the air in front of the Orion capsule was way hotter than a bike pump. It was heading toward 5000 degrees C, about half the surface temperature of the sun. At that temperature, particles stop being nice and start getting real. The temperature is so high that oxygen and nitrogen, normally in the air as molecules (O&#8322; and N&#8322;), break apart into individual atoms.</p><p>And things keep heating up. Particles keep hitting each other. The hits get so powerful that they knock electrons off their atoms. Now, instead of a mix of atomic gases, you&#8217;ve got electrons along with positive ions (charged particles that have lost electrons). Get enough ions into the mix, and you no longer have gas &#8212; you&#8217;ve got <strong>plasma</strong>. That&#8217;s a cool name for a soup of electrons and charged particles. And it&#8217;s really, really hot.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!azjy!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fee789eea-1dc9-4e7d-a436-27ed38ea6078_600x400.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!azjy!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fee789eea-1dc9-4e7d-a436-27ed38ea6078_600x400.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!azjy!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fee789eea-1dc9-4e7d-a436-27ed38ea6078_600x400.jpeg 848w, 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the Orion spacecraft heat shield in a lab, showing the protective system designed to absorb and dissipate extreme heat during atmospheric reentry." srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!azjy!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fee789eea-1dc9-4e7d-a436-27ed38ea6078_600x400.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!azjy!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fee789eea-1dc9-4e7d-a436-27ed38ea6078_600x400.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!azjy!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fee789eea-1dc9-4e7d-a436-27ed38ea6078_600x400.jpeg 1272w, 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11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Orion&#8217;s <strong>heat shield</strong> isn&#8217;t just protection&#8212;it&#8217;s a workaround, managing the energy of reentry so the spacecraft can survive physics that doesn&#8217;t like to be ignored. (Image, NASA/Isaac Watson)</figcaption></figure></div><p>It&#8217;s also what was glowing. Electrons will grab onto positive ions, get excited, then fall back down to their normal energy levels, and everyone will be smacking into each other. All of that creates visible light. The light of atoms being torn apart and partially rebuilding themselves, and getting torn apart again.</p><blockquote><p>Quick sidebar: The communication blackout during reentry? Thank the plasma. Radio waves are blocked because the free electrons in the plasma can move fast enough to absorb and re-radiate them, preventing them from traveling through. The plasma around Orion doesn&#8217;t block all radiation&#8212;it blocks the kind we use to communicate. The capsule doesn&#8217;t disappear. It just becomes unreachable.</p></blockquote><p>Everything you just read is real &#8212; we just watched it happen. The atmosphere turned into plasma because something moved fast enough that the air couldn&#8217;t behave like air anymore.</p><p>Now imagine realizing that applies to you.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.thescienceof.org/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><h1>The Fastest Man Alive</h1><p>That&#8217;s exactly what <a href="https://www.ryannorth.ca/">Ryan North</a> does in his take on <em>The Flash</em>.</p><p>He lets the Flash (Wally West) reflect on his own powers&#8212;not like a superhero, but like a smart guy who&#8217;s studied up and gleefully points out where things don&#8217;t add up. And how that requires a hall pass from the laws of physics.</p><p>Let&#8217;s see how Wally explains it. The following sequence is from <em>The Flash</em> #31, written by North, with art by Gavin Guidry and Adriano Lucas.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!L0p7!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe12e7702-a42a-474e-ba93-3233927b4b80_1640x1290.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!L0p7!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe12e7702-a42a-474e-ba93-3233927b4b80_1640x1290.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!L0p7!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe12e7702-a42a-474e-ba93-3233927b4b80_1640x1290.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!L0p7!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe12e7702-a42a-474e-ba93-3233927b4b80_1640x1290.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!L0p7!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe12e7702-a42a-474e-ba93-3233927b4b80_1640x1290.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!L0p7!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe12e7702-a42a-474e-ba93-3233927b4b80_1640x1290.png" width="1456" height="1145" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/e12e7702-a42a-474e-ba93-3233927b4b80_1640x1290.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1145,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Comic panel of Wally West explaining that moving at extreme speed would cause intense heating and friction-like effects, highlighting the physics limits of super speed.&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Comic panel of Wally West explaining that moving at extreme speed would cause intense heating and friction-like effects, highlighting the physics limits of super speed." title="Comic panel of Wally West explaining that moving at extreme speed would cause intense heating and friction-like effects, highlighting the physics limits of super speed." srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!L0p7!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe12e7702-a42a-474e-ba93-3233927b4b80_1640x1290.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!L0p7!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe12e7702-a42a-474e-ba93-3233927b4b80_1640x1290.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!L0p7!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe12e7702-a42a-474e-ba93-3233927b4b80_1640x1290.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!L0p7!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe12e7702-a42a-474e-ba93-3233927b4b80_1640x1290.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Wally West realizes the problem with super speed: at extreme velocities, air wouldn&#8217;t flow&#8212;it would superheat and break down, the same physics seen in spacecraft reentry. <em>(Art &#169; DC Comics)</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>Reaction time? He&#8217;s 100% right. Human reaction time is about 0.2-0.25 seconds. That&#8217;s the time it takes the brain to register sensory input (sight, hearing, touch, and taste) and trigger a motor response. Hearing and touch are a little quicker, but at the speed Wally&#8217;s running at, it doesn&#8217;t matter. By the time his brain registered that something was in his way, he would already have crashed into it. So there&#8217;s that.</p><p>Wally&#8217;s call on friction? Perfectly understandable. My students would&#8217;ve said that&#8212;but think back to the Orion capsule. Wally&#8217;s moving faster. Maybe not light speed, but a percentage of it, which is still stupid fast. Like the capsule, Wally&#8217;s not rubbing his way through the air (which is what would cause friction), rather he&#8217;s slamming into the air&#8212;the individual molecules and atoms. The air in front of Wally? Just like the air in front of the Orion, gets compressed and the temperature spikes, molecules fall apart, electrons are knocked free from atoms, and you get plasma.</p><p>Friction occurs at normal speeds and under normal conditions. The Orion capsule? The Flash? Not normal. But I love what Wally is thinking &#8212; he&#8217;s like a student who&#8217;s just realized something is wrong&#8230; but hasn&#8217;t yet followed the physics all the way down.</p><blockquote><p>Short sidebar: There <em>might </em>be some friction as Wally initially accelerates from a standstill, but given the final speed he reaches, the time when friction is the major issue is vanishingly small.</p></blockquote><p>Let&#8217;s continue on:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pgd1!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa626a8fa-4344-4552-af9d-665ddae56a25_1640x1223.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pgd1!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa626a8fa-4344-4552-af9d-665ddae56a25_1640x1223.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pgd1!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa626a8fa-4344-4552-af9d-665ddae56a25_1640x1223.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pgd1!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa626a8fa-4344-4552-af9d-665ddae56a25_1640x1223.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pgd1!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa626a8fa-4344-4552-af9d-665ddae56a25_1640x1223.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pgd1!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa626a8fa-4344-4552-af9d-665ddae56a25_1640x1223.png" width="1456" height="1086" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/a626a8fa-4344-4552-af9d-665ddae56a25_1640x1223.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1086,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Comic panel of the Flash running at extreme speed, describing how air cannot move aside, leading to plasma formation and high-energy radiation.&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Comic panel of the Flash running at extreme speed, describing how air cannot move aside, leading to plasma formation and high-energy radiation." title="Comic panel of the Flash running at extreme speed, describing how air cannot move aside, leading to plasma formation and high-energy radiation." srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pgd1!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa626a8fa-4344-4552-af9d-665ddae56a25_1640x1223.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pgd1!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa626a8fa-4344-4552-af9d-665ddae56a25_1640x1223.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pgd1!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa626a8fa-4344-4552-af9d-665ddae56a25_1640x1223.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pgd1!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa626a8fa-4344-4552-af9d-665ddae56a25_1640x1223.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">At Flash-level speeds, air stops behaving like a fluid&#8212;violent collisions turn it into plasma and unleash radiation, pushing physics into extreme territory. <em>(Art &#169; DC Comics)</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>Alright &#8212; here we go. Now Wally brings the physics in and separates himself from the Orion. We (normies) can move fast enough that air acts like a fluid and flows around us. The Orion on reentry was moving so fast that it was compressing the air in front of it, causing it to heat up. The Flash? He&#8217;s moving so fast that the air can&#8217;t get out of the way, and before it can compress, he&#8217;s hitting it. Physically smacking into the molecules. That&#8217;s not good, as Wally explains above.</p><p>The plasma from Orion? That&#8217;s at lower speeds, not Flash speeds.</p><p>Now, the air particles cannot get out of the way, and compression occurs even more violently. We&#8217;re now in conditions where collisions become extreme enough to even consider <strong>fusion</strong>. In the Flash&#8217;s case, it&#8217;s <strong>atomic nuclei</strong>&#8212;positively charged because of the protons in the nucleus&#8212;getting close enough to stick together. And they really <em>don&#8217;t want to do that</em>. You need absurd energy for that to happen. It happens in the Sun. That level of absurd.</p><p>At Flash speeds? Maybe. In the most extreme collisions, some tiny fraction of nuclei might actually fuse. And if they do, you&#8217;d get exactly what he describes&#8212;high-energy particles, gamma rays, radiation you definitely don&#8217;t want to be anywhere near.</p><p>But again, let&#8217;s back away from the scary fusion for a moment. In our world, at Flash speeds, there would already be radiation present.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/p/artemis-reentry-plasma-flash-speed-force?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.thescienceof.org/p/artemis-reentry-plasma-flash-speed-force?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p><p>Radiation isn&#8217;t some special nuclear thing. It&#8217;s just energy moving as waves. <strong>Light </strong>is radiation. <strong>X-rays</strong> are radiation. <strong>Gamma rays</strong> are radiation. Same family, different energy levels.</p><p>So the real question isn&#8217;t &#8220;is there fusion?&#8221; It&#8217;s: are there charged particles getting thrown around? The moment the answer is yes, you&#8217;re going to get radiation. And the second the air turns into plasma&#8212;which we already walked through&#8212;you&#8217;ve got exactly that situation.</p><p>You&#8217;ve got free electrons, positive ions, and everything colliding, changing direction, speeding up, and slowing down. It&#8217;s chaos at the particle level. And charged particles that accelerate give off radiation.</p><p>Not &#8220;sometimes.&#8221; Not &#8220;if conditions are right&#8221; &#8212; always.</p><p>Electrons get knocked loose &#8594; <strong>radiation</strong>.<br>Electrons slam into ions &#8594; <strong>radiation</strong>.<br>Electrons get captured again and drop to a lower energy state &#8594; <strong>radiation</strong>.</p><p>And to answer your radiation question, yes&#8212;in our world, this is dangerous. Not in a vague way, but in a very specific, physics-has-names-for-this way. You&#8217;d be producing <strong>X-rays</strong> from electrons slamming to a stop (<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pghykOzTVPw">bremsstrahlung</a>), <strong>visible and ultraviolet light</strong> from electrons dropping back into atoms, and at higher energies, even <strong>gamma rays</strong>. In other words: not just heat, but radiation that can ionize, damage, and destroy matter&#8212;including you. Bad bad bad. </p><p>So by the time the Flash is even thinking about fusion&#8212;nuclei sticking together, which is actually very hard to do&#8212;the situation is already out of control. The air is plasma, the particles are colliding, and radiation is already pouring out of the system.</p><p>Fusion isn&#8217;t step one.</p><p>Fusion is what you get if you somehow make an already catastrophic situation even worse, which is kind of the running theme here. You don&#8217;t need nuclear reactions to make this deadly.</p><p>You just need to take ordinary matter, hit it hard enough, and let physics take over. Things get bad very quickly.</p><h1>Mr. Fusion</h1><p>So let&#8217;s go with Flash&#8217;s claim that fusion is&#8212;or should be&#8212;starting to happen. Thankfully, it&#8217;s not in the DC Universe (because the DC Universe has magic. More on that in a second). That&#8217;s very cool from the physics side of things, but very, very bad from the &#8220;continuing to live&#8221; side of things.</p><p>Fusion is what happens when <strong>atomic nuclei</strong>&#8212;the dense, positively charged centers of atoms&#8212;are forced close enough together that they stick and form a new nucleus. The problem is that those nuclei repel each other. Strongly. So getting fusion requires collisions energetic enough to overcome that repulsion and push them into contact long enough for the strong nuclear force to take over. That&#8217;s why fusion is hard in stars and even harder in labs. You don&#8217;t get it just because things are hot&#8212;you get it because things are <em>absurdly energetic</em>.</p><p>If we&#8217;re willing to say the Flash is moving fast enough to reach that regime, then what&#8217;s happening at the leading edge of his motion isn&#8217;t just plasma anymore. It&#8217;s a region where bare nuclei&#8212;nitrogen and oxygen nuclei from the air&#8212;are colliding at energies high enough that, occasionally, a pair doesn&#8217;t bounce apart. They fuse.</p><p>And when they do, something important happens.</p><p>The new nucleus that forms has s<em>lightly less mass than the two nuclei you started with</em>. That &#8220;missing&#8221; mass hasn&#8217;t vanished&#8212;it&#8217;s been converted into energy. This is the part you&#8217;ve heard before, but it matters here in a very literal way:</p><p style="text-align: center;"><strong>E=mc<sup>2</sup></strong></p><p>Yep = the energy contained in matter is equal to the matter&#8217;s mass multiplied by the speed of light (3.0 x 10<sup>8<sub> </sub></sup>meters per second), squared. </p><p>Because the speed of light (&#8220;c&#8221;) squared is such a huge number, even a tiny loss of mass turns into a large release of energy. Not in a vague, hand-wavy sense&#8212;very specifically, and very violently. Collision by collision. And there can be <em>many </em>collisions. </p><p>That energy doesn&#8217;t come out as a gentle warming of the air. It comes out as <strong>high-energy radiation and fast-moving particles</strong>. Gamma rays. Subatomic fragments. Nuclei and protons kicked away at high speed. In other words, every fusion event is a tiny burst of energy that doesn&#8217;t stay put&#8212;it punches outward into whatever is nearby.</p><p>And that&#8217;s where this stops being a single reaction and becomes a problem.</p><p>Because those particles and that radiation don&#8217;t just leave the system. They interact with it. They slam into the surrounding plasma, dumping more energy into it, driving more collisions, raising temperatures, and increasing the likelihood that more nuclei will collide with enough energy to fuse. You don&#8217;t get one neat fusion event at the front of the Flash. You get a cascade&#8212;small, sporadic nuclear reactions feeding energy back into an already violent environment.</p><p>So if you take the comic seriously on this point, what the Flash should be carrying with him isn&#8217;t just heat, or even just plasma. It&#8217;s a moving region where nuclear reactions occasionally occur, where energy is released as radiation and particle showers, and where that energy continuously feeds back into the system.</p><p>At that point, the situation isn&#8217;t about &#8220;running fast&#8221; anymore. It&#8217;s about driving the atmosphere into a regime where the nuclei themselves start to stick, and every time they do, they release energy in the worst possible way&#8212;outward, into everything around them, including him.</p><p>Fusion doesn&#8217;t replace the plasma problem.</p><p>It sits on top of it&#8212;and makes it violently worse.</p><p>And the Flash actually explains that pretty well, too.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.thescienceof.org/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><h1>The End of the Flash?</h1><p>The Flash finishes his reflection on his powers in the worst possible way.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!48IZ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F75ca0320-1a0e-4202-9cb1-ff50ecc2b783_2048x661.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!48IZ!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F75ca0320-1a0e-4202-9cb1-ff50ecc2b783_2048x661.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!48IZ!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F75ca0320-1a0e-4202-9cb1-ff50ecc2b783_2048x661.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!48IZ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F75ca0320-1a0e-4202-9cb1-ff50ecc2b783_2048x661.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!48IZ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F75ca0320-1a0e-4202-9cb1-ff50ecc2b783_2048x661.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!48IZ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F75ca0320-1a0e-4202-9cb1-ff50ecc2b783_2048x661.png" width="1456" height="470" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/75ca0320-1a0e-4202-9cb1-ff50ecc2b783_2048x661.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:470,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Comic panel of the Flash running at extreme speed, describing how plasma formation and energy release would create an explosion or mushroom cloud.&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Comic panel of the Flash running at extreme speed, describing how plasma formation and energy release would create an explosion or mushroom cloud." title="Comic panel of the Flash running at extreme speed, describing how plasma formation and energy release would create an explosion or mushroom cloud." srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!48IZ!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F75ca0320-1a0e-4202-9cb1-ff50ecc2b783_2048x661.png 424w, 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Push reentry physics far enough and it stops being heat and becomes an explosion&#8212;exactly the outcome the Flash realizes as speed turns into pure energy release. <em>(Art &#169; DC Comics)</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>If all of that is happening&#8212;if the air has gone from gas to plasma, if collisions are dumping energy into the system faster than it can dissipate, and if even a fraction of those collisions are crossing into fusion&#8212;then there isn&#8217;t really a &#8220;runner&#8221; anymore.</p><p>There&#8217;s just energy being released along a path.</p><p>Wally&#8217;s line about <strong>nanoseconds </strong>matters. At these speeds, everything we&#8217;ve been talking about&#8212;compression, ionization, radiation, even the possibility of fusion&#8212;is happening incredibly fast. Not over seconds. Not even over milliseconds. Over <em>billionths </em>of a second. There&#8217;s no time for the system to stabilize. No time for heat to spread out. No time for anything to behave gently.</p><p>Energy gets dumped into the air all at once. When you release a large amount of energy into a small region in a very short time, physics has a name for that.</p><p>Explosion.</p><p>Not metaphorically. Not &#8220;like an explosion.&#8221;</p><p>An explosion.</p><p>The &#8220;mushroom cloud&#8221; line isn&#8217;t comic book exaggeration&#8212;it&#8217;s a rough description of what happens when hot, energized material expands outward rapidly and drives a shockwave through the air. That&#8217;s exactly what you&#8217;d expect if you took everything we&#8217;ve just walked through and let it run to completion.</p><p>So the panel lands the conclusion, even if it takes a slightly messy path to get there:</p><p>At those speeds, you don&#8217;t stay a person moving through the atmosphere. You become a moving release of energy.</p><p>That&#8217;s the point where the character stops being about speed and starts being about survival. Because if this is the physics&#8212;and it is, just pushed to an extreme&#8212;then there are only two options: either the Flash doesn&#8217;t exist,</p><p>or the rules do not apply to him.</p><p>In the comics, that answer has a name: the <strong>Speed Force</strong>. It&#8217;s not a boost or an upgrade. It&#8217;s a workaround.</p><p>Created by Mark Waid in <em>The Flash</em> (vol 2) #91 in 1994, the Speed Force is just that&#8212;a little wink, a nod, and an awe-inspiring sense of the DC Universe&#8217;s unknown, and possibly unknowable cosmos. Waid &#8212; no physics slouch&#8212;knew what he was doing when he created it. It&#8217;s not just a &#8220;magic&#8221; get-out-of-jail-free card&#8212;it was created as something more, and <a href="https://www.dc.com/blog/2023/04/11/the-speed-force-explained">became even more than that.</a></p><p>The Speed Force is a way to run without turning the air into plasma, without dumping his kinetic energy into the world, without becoming the explosion that physics insists he should be. Without it, the Flash doesn&#8217;t outrun anything.</p><p>Given the quasi-spiritual nature of the Speed Force, a member of the &#8220;Flash Family&#8221; in the DC Universe that somehow rejects the protection it grants and can still run at &#8220;Flash&#8221; speeds has just signed their death warrant&#8212;and that for thousands of people around them when they take their final run. </p><p>Thankfully, Wally isn&#8217;t down with that. </p><h1>Of Spacecraft and Superheroes</h1><p>We just watched a spacecraft survive this.</p><p>That&#8217;s the part that&#8217;s easy to miss.</p><p>When Artemis II&#8217;s Orion capsule came back to Earth, it didn&#8217;t glide through the atmosphere. It didn&#8217;t slip past the air. It slammed into it, turned it into plasma, and then survived by managing the energy involved as carefully as humanly possible. Heat shields. Ablation. Angles of entry are calculated to within a degree or less. Everything about that moment was engineered around one idea:</p><p><strong>Don&#8217;t let the physics win all at once.</strong></p><p>And even then, it&#8217;s not comfortable. It&#8217;s not gentle. It&#8217;s a controlled argument with the atmosphere that the spacecraft only barely wins. Now take that same process and scale it up.</p><p>Faster speeds. More energy. Less time for anything to spread out or dissipate. Strip away the heat shield. Strip away the careful entry profile. Replace it with a person taking a step.</p><p>That&#8217;s the Flash.</p><p>Not the lightning. Not the blur. Not the cool pose mid-stride.</p><p>The physics. The part where the air stops behaving like air, where matter starts coming apart, where energy stops being something you carry and starts being something you release. The realization&#8212;quietly sitting inside those panels&#8212;is that this isn&#8217;t a problem you solve by trying harder.</p><p>You don&#8217;t train your way past it. You don&#8217;t build better muscles or faster reflexes.</p><p>You <em>don&#8217;t </em>win.</p><p>Unless you change the rules.</p><p>So the story does exactly that. It gives him something the Orion capsule doesn&#8217;t have and never could: not better engineering, but an escape hatch. A way to run without triggering everything we just walked through.</p><p>A way to move without turning the atmosphere into plasma, without dumping his kinetic energy into the world, without becoming the explosion physics insists he should be.</p><p>It gives him the Speed Force.</p><p>Not a cheat, a requirement. Because the universe already lets things move that fast. We see it in particle accelerators, in cosmic rays, in the jets of distant black holes.</p><p>It just never lets anything survive it.</p><p>Orion survives by respecting that boundary.</p><p>The Flash survives by stepping outside it.</p><p>And if you watch that reentry footage again&#8212;the glow, the plasma, the silence&#8212;you can almost see the moment where the real world stops&#8230;</p><p>&#8230;and the Speed Force would have to take over.</p><blockquote><p>Final sidenote: for another version of this, that both The Flash and this article give a relativistic hat tip to, check out the GOAT, Randal Munro&#8217;s explanation of what would happen if a <a href="https://what-if.xkcd.com/1/">baseball were pitched at near light speed</a>. Spoilers - same as here. 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Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support my work.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[A Field Guide to Astrophage]]></title><description><![CDATA[How Astrophage Works: The Physics, Biology, and Energy Behind Project Hail Mary]]></description><link>https://www.thescienceof.org/p/a-field-guide-to-astrophage</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.thescienceof.org/p/a-field-guide-to-astrophage</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt Brady]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2026 12:15:52 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!f349!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feb8644b5-926b-4e5a-87df-91005bd48cc9_780x438.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!f349!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feb8644b5-926b-4e5a-87df-91005bd48cc9_780x438.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!f349!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feb8644b5-926b-4e5a-87df-91005bd48cc9_780x438.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!f349!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feb8644b5-926b-4e5a-87df-91005bd48cc9_780x438.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!f349!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feb8644b5-926b-4e5a-87df-91005bd48cc9_780x438.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!f349!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feb8644b5-926b-4e5a-87df-91005bd48cc9_780x438.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!f349!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feb8644b5-926b-4e5a-87df-91005bd48cc9_780x438.jpeg" width="780" height="438" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/eb8644b5-926b-4e5a-87df-91005bd48cc9_780x438.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:438,&quot;width&quot;:780,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Ryland Grace studying Astrophage in a lab in Project Hail Mary film scene with scientific equipment&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;Grace doing some experiments in Project Hail Mary&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:true,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Ryland Grace studying Astrophage in a lab in Project Hail Mary film scene with scientific equipment" title="Grace doing some experiments in Project Hail Mary" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!f349!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feb8644b5-926b-4e5a-87df-91005bd48cc9_780x438.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!f349!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feb8644b5-926b-4e5a-87df-91005bd48cc9_780x438.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!f349!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feb8644b5-926b-4e5a-87df-91005bd48cc9_780x438.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!f349!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feb8644b5-926b-4e5a-87df-91005bd48cc9_780x438.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Ryland Grace at work&#8212;trying to understand a problem that shouldn&#8217;t exist.</figcaption></figure></div><p>In <em>Project Hail Mary</em>, Astrophage is both the miracle and the problem.</p><p>It eats starlight&#8212;that&#8217;s the name: <em>astro</em>, &#8220;star,&#8221; and <em>phage</em>, &#8220;eater&#8221;&#8212;stores absurd amounts of energy, and somehow turns that energy into propulsion and survival. It&#8217;s the central problem in the story&#8212;and at the same time, the only reason any of it works.</p><p>Science tends to do that. The same idea can be both the problem and the solution, depending on where you&#8217;re standing. So let&#8217;s get into the science of Astrophage.</p><p>The quick version is simple: if Astrophage were real, it would change everything. It does inside the world of <em>Project Hail Mary</em>. So instead of treating it like fiction we hand-wave past, we&#8217;re going to take it seriously&#8212;real physics seriously&#8212;and see how far that gets us.</p><p>Out of the gate, it&#8217;s tempting to compare Astrophage to a plant. It eats sunlight. It reproduces. Is the Sun just being overgrown by space kudzu?</p><p>Not quite.</p><p>A better starting point is this: Astrophage behaves more like a microscopic space whale.</p><p>Whales don&#8217;t stay in one place. They feed in one part of the ocean, migrate across vast distances, and reproduce somewhere else entirely. Their lives are defined by moving between environments that provide different resources.</p><p>Astrophage is doing the same thing. Just replace oceans with space, plankton with starlight, and breeding grounds with Venus. That analogy gets us in the door&#8212;but it doesn&#8217;t go far enough.</p><p>Astrophage isn&#8217;t just biology. It&#8217;s a system that sits at the boundary of biology, chemistry, and physics&#8212;one that has access to energy on a scale that looks less like life on Earth and more like a particle accelerator.</p><p>More CERN than a cell.</p><p>Let&#8217;s build it up.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.thescienceof.org/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><h1>Astrophage: Physical Characteristics</h1><p>Astrophage is a life form that exists in the extreme environment of stellar surfaces, making it hyperthermophilic, capable of thriving at temperatures that would destroy most life on Earth. Astrophage cells are on the order of 10 micrometers (microns), which places them in the same range as Earth-bound eukaryotic cells, and roughly the same size as human cells. As Grace finds out in Project Hail Mary, Astrophage is <em>extremely </em>similar to Earth-based eukaryotic cells (cells with a nucleus surrounded by a nuclear membrane and specialized organelles), strong enough that panspermia is proposed as an explanation for the origin of life on Earth.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xRgz!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6c0fb4cb-a31f-4c30-9914-ab42c0a6b187_846x566.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xRgz!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6c0fb4cb-a31f-4c30-9914-ab42c0a6b187_846x566.png 424w, 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bacteria, and viruses, useful for understanding Astrophage size in Project Hail Mary" title="Microscopic size scale diagram showing cells, bacteria, and viruses, useful for understanding Astrophage size in Project Hail Mary" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xRgz!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6c0fb4cb-a31f-4c30-9914-ab42c0a6b187_846x566.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xRgz!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6c0fb4cb-a31f-4c30-9914-ab42c0a6b187_846x566.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xRgz!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6c0fb4cb-a31f-4c30-9914-ab42c0a6b187_846x566.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xRgz!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6c0fb4cb-a31f-4c30-9914-ab42c0a6b187_846x566.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Astrophage sit right in the middle of the biological scale&#8212;about the size of a typical cell.</figcaption></figure></div><blockquote><p><strong>A Life on Earth Aside:</strong> Panspermia is the idea that life didn&#8217;t start on Earth; it arrived here. Not fully formed organisms, but the raw ingredients or early microbial life, hitching rides on comets, asteroids, or interstellar dust. Space, in this view, isn&#8217;t empty. It&#8217;s a delivery system. Rocks get blasted off one world by impacts, drift for millions of years, and&#8212;if the physics lines up&#8212;land somewhere else with their biological cargo still intact. Panspermia doesn&#8217;t explain how life begins. It just punts the question elsewhere.</p><p>What it does say is that life might spread. It might be resilient enough to survive vacuum, radiation, and time&#8212;and if that&#8217;s true, then biology isn&#8217;t a local accident. It&#8217;s something that can leak from world to world.</p></blockquote><p>Like life on Earth, Astrophage appears to be carbon-based, contains water, and has very similar organelles.</p><p>While alive, Astrophage cells are effectively opaque across the electromagnetic spectrum and have a super-strong outer coating capable of withstanding the vacuum of space and the stellar corona. Despite its strength, the Astrophage coating can be pierced by something very sharp, such as the nanoneedle Grace used, which unexpectedly killed the cell. When Astrophage dies, they become translucent or clear, revealing their internal structure.</p><p>For Astrophage, that line between life and death comes down to one thing: energy.</p><h1>Astrophage: Diet</h1><p>Astrophage derives its energy from starlight. Rather than just the visible light that Earth&#8217;s plants absorb, Astrophage absorb across the entire electromagnetic spectrum. The preferred habitat of Astrophage is a star&#8217;s corona, giving it direct access to the energy being released. It&#8217;s the &#8220;infection&#8221; of the opaque Astrophage in the outer layers of the star, which blocks energy from the sun, causing it to dim. It&#8217;s like a mold growing across a clean window - as it grows, more and more light is blocked, and less light can enter.</p><p>The &#8220;how&#8221; of Astrophage eating all the energy produced by a star is the result of a property referred to as &#8220;super cross-sectionality.&#8221; And it&#8217;s poorly understood&#8212; that is, it shouldn&#8217;t work, but it does. Thanks to this property, nothing &#8212;  <em>nothing </em>&#8212;  can pass through Astrophage, not even neutrinos (which normally pass through matter almost without interacting) or subatomic particles that should be able to quantum tunnel through it. Weirdly, Astrophage also blocks wavelengths of light longer than its own size.</p><blockquote><p><strong>Light Interaction Aside:</strong> This is the diffraction limit, the reason why light microscopes only work up to a point. If an object is smaller than the wavelength of light, the light <em>diffracts </em>around it, instead of reflecting off of it, making it functionally invisible to that light. At 10 microns, Astrophage are larger than visible wavelengths (Grace can see them with a standard light microscope). Longer-wavelength radiation, such as infrared and radio waves, is also stopped by Astrophage, which is impossible according to physics as we know it. How? Super cross-sectionality. In short, nothing gets through, which is why Astrophage makes excellent heat and radiation shielding, and kind of a problem when they&#8217;re dimming your star.</p></blockquote><p>And to make one thing clear: if Astrophage follows biological rules, we can ratchet back some of the hyperbole about what it does. Astrophage isn&#8217;t a &#8220;star-killer.&#8221; It doesn&#8217;t extinguish a star; it just turns it down. The Astrophage population in a system will stabilize at whatever level the star can support, given incoming energy, reproduction rate, and losses to predation and other unknowns.</p><p>So, like so many biological systems, Astrophage won&#8217;t destroy the system. It finds a balance point and holds.</p><h1>Astrophage: Diet, part 2</h1><p>What does Astrophage do with the energy it absorbs? Here&#8217;s where things get really cool.</p><p>Astrophage converts energy into mass. No other form of life we know does this. Not plants, not us, not chemotrophs living near deep-sea vents. This makes them unique. The core idea is simple. Start with the equation that everyone knows from Einstein: E = mc<sup>2</sup>. That&#8217;s what underlies atomic energy, nuclear weapons, and a lot of subatomic physics. But that&#8217;s not what Astrophage does. They reverse it.</p><p>Just solve that equation for mass. That is, m = E/c<sup>2</sup>. That&#8217;s it.</p><p>In theory.</p><p>Prior to their discovery in <em>Project Hail Mary</em>, the idea of energy-to-mass conversion was full-on bonkers, both that it could happen at all and that it could happen in something alive.</p><p>The &#8220;how&#8221; of it all going on inside Astrophage goes pretty deep into particle physics. We&#8217;ll try to stay shallow&#8230;</p><p>Astrophage are basically tiny biological batteries&#8212;but they don&#8217;t store energy the way anything on Earth does. They have a &#8220;sweet spot&#8221; temperature: about 96.4&#176;C. That&#8217;s their critical temperature. At that exact temperature, something wild happens&#8212;when two protons (just hydrogen nuclei) slam into each other, their motion can turn into neutrinos, in a way that shouldn&#8217;t be possible under known physics. Neutrinos are tiny, <em>almost </em>massless particles that barely interact with anything.</p><p>Now here&#8217;s the trick: if the Astrophage gets hotter than that, instead of heating up more like normal matter would, it just keeps converting that extra heat into more neutrinos. So the temperature stays locked right around that same point. It&#8217;s like a built-in thermostat&#8212;but instead of turning off a heater, it converts heat directly into mass.</p><p>So even sitting near a star, where temperatures should keep rising, Astrophage just&#8230; doesn&#8217;t get hotter. It absorbs the energy and packs it away. And it packs a lot.</p><p>A single Astrophage cell can store about 1.5 megajoules of energy&#8212;an enormous amount of energy for something microscopic. Then, when it needs that energy back, two of those neutrinos collide and turn into light&#8212;specifically a very precise kind of infrared light called the Petrova wavelength.</p><p>That light does three jobs: it can power the Astrophage&#8217;s internal processes, warm it back up if it cools down, and, most importantly, be fired out the back of the cell like exhaust, propelling it forward.</p><p>Astrophage&#8217;s diet is directly connected to its motion. There are no flagella, cilia, or pseudopods to move them &#8212;  they&#8217;d be useless in space anyway &#8212; there&#8217;s nothing to push back against. They use rockets. &#8220;Toot to scoot,&#8221; as Grace put it. Astrophage converts stored energy into light and blasts it out, which pushes them forward. And because the energy density is so high, they can accelerate to ridiculous speeds&#8212;up to about 92% the speed of light (2.76 x 10<sup>8</sup> m/s, or about 617,000,000 miles per hour).</p><blockquote><p><strong>Light Propulsion Aside</strong>: Astrophage is essentially a biological version of laser propulsion. Photons don&#8217;t have mass, but they carry energy&#8212;and that energy carries momentum. Laser propulsion leans on that. Shine a powerful laser at a spacecraft, and the light hitting it delivers a tiny push. It&#8217;s small, but continuous, so over time it adds up and accelerates the craft. The problem is that the energy required is enormous and expensive. Astrophage is doing the same thing, with no external fuel cost, just converting its own stored mass into energy. Instead of an external laser, it generates its own light and fires it out in a tight beam. That beam carries momentum away, and the Astrophage gets pushed in the opposite direction. It&#8217;s basically a self-contained laser drive: no traditional propellant mass. Just light doing the pushing.</p></blockquote><p>Astrophage is wild because it&#8217;s not running on the kind of chemistry life on Earth depends on. No sugars, no ATP, no familiar metabolic pathways. Instead, it&#8217;s tapping directly into mass&#8211;energy conversion&#8212;the kind of physics we usually only see in stars and nuclear reactions.</p><p>Life on Earth lives in the shallow end of the energy pool, moving electrons around. Astrophage is down in the deep end, where energy and mass are interchangeable.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/p/a-field-guide-to-astrophage?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.thescienceof.org/p/a-field-guide-to-astrophage?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p><h1>Astrophage: Migration</h1><p>Astrophage has effectively unlimited food coming from a star, a mechanism that allows it to convert all of that energy into mass, as well as a mechanism for keeping its body temperature at a comfortable (for it) 96.415<sup>o</sup>C. Why would it ever want to go anywhere else?</p><p>Two reasons: reproduction and colonization.</p><p>The first &#8212; that&#8217;s the easiest one to understand. Once Astrophage is full of energy (there is an upper limit - about 1.5 megajoules of energy, about 17 nanograms of neutrinos), it&#8217;s stuffed, and time to reproduce.</p><blockquote><p><strong>Energy Aside</strong>: &#8220;mega&#8221; = millions, so a single Astrophage cell can hold 1.5 million joules. &#8220;Joules&#8221; is the unit of energy (it underlies all energy measurements, even the kilowatt hours of electricity that electric companies bill us for), and 1.5 million joules is considerable. For instance, at 1.5 megajoules, a single Astrophage cell is carrying about 360 food calories of energy. That&#8217;s a full meal. Not a snack&#8212;an actual, sit-down, plate-of-food meal. Or, if you want to talk water, a single Astrophage cell can store enough energy to raise roughly a gallon of water from room temperature to boiling.</p></blockquote><p>That is an absolutely stupid amount of energy for something microscopic to be carrying around.</p><p>Okay - so it&#8217;s full of energy, and it&#8217;s time to reproduce. There&#8217;s a catch: while an Astrophage converts energy into mass, it still requires specific elements to replicate through mitosis. Over millions of years, Astrophage has evolved to seek out planets with abundant carbon. Again, an Astrophage may be a space-bound organism, but it&#8217;s similar to us and, like us, it&#8217;s carbon-based.</p><p>Using our solar system as an example, Astrophage migrates to Venus, which has an atmosphere made of 96.5% carbon dioxide and 3.5% nitrogen. Getting there, no problem. But &#8220;seeing&#8221; Venus? That&#8217;s a trick.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8dRA!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa5ab2ec4-dd2c-4b42-9275-a836bf3f03da_1001x1000.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8dRA!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa5ab2ec4-dd2c-4b42-9275-a836bf3f03da_1001x1000.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8dRA!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa5ab2ec4-dd2c-4b42-9275-a836bf3f03da_1001x1000.jpeg 848w, 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><strong>Infrared image of Venus&#8217;s lower cloud layers&#8212;revealing a dense, carbon dioxide&#8211;rich atmosphere that Astrophage can detect and exploit. Image, JPL</strong></figcaption></figure></div><p>Astrophage doesn&#8217;t &#8220;see&#8221; as we do. No eyes, no images. What they can detect is the spectrum of light, which wavelengths are present and which are missing. When light passes through a planet&#8217;s atmosphere, certain gases absorb very specific wavelengths. Carbon dioxide, for example, absorbs particular parts of the infrared spectrum. So what&#8217;s left in the light carries a fingerprint.</p><p>A CO&#8322;-rich world leaves behind a very distinct pattern&#8212;a set of &#8220;missing&#8221; wavelengths in the light coming off that planet or its star. Astrophage can detect that pattern. It&#8217;s like they&#8217;re reading the barcode of the atmosphere.</p><p>Once spotted, it&#8217;s time to go, and boy, do they go. Millions, billions follow the same path to get to the planet, all jetting along at near-light speed, so it&#8217;s a short trip. At full burn, Astrophage could cross the distance from the Sun to Venus in about six to seven minutes.</p><p>As they propel themselves through space, the Astrophage&#8217;s &#8220;jets&#8221; (toot to scoot) release infrared radiation at a wavelength of exactly 25.984 microns. That&#8217;s what was discovered by Dr. Irina Petrova, the Russian scientist who first spotted the infrared &#8220;line&#8221; connecting the sun and Venus. The Petrova line is the signal of Astrophage infection in a star system.</p><p>The quick travel time between the Sun and Venus assumes Astrophage is at top speed the whole way. Realistically, you&#8217;d have a short acceleration phase&#8212;but given how absurd their acceleration is, it barely changes the answer. And they don&#8217;t slow down when they get to their target. They air-brake. Astrophage rely on the planet&#8217;s atmosphere to slow them down&#8212; they hit the atmosphere. Hard.</p><p>Traveling at such high speed and hitting the atmosphere would destroy any human-sized ship, but for the microscopic Astrophage, it&#8217;s no big thing. Compressing air in front of them heats it to ridiculous levels, and they just gobble that energy, turning it into mass, replacing the mass converted to energy for their flight to the planet. With atmospheric deceleration, Astrophage stops when the air pressure is 0.02 atmospheres. Once there, it takes in carbon dioxide to produce biomass for the daughter cells and undergoes mitosis, splitting into two cells.</p><h1>Astrophage: Migration, 2</h1><p>Astrophage&#8217;s other large-scale movement comes from cells presumably forming spores and traveling to other, uninfected stars. The limit of this travel seems to be about eight light-years, the distance between nearby stars. The reason for this behavior is unknown, but, like Astrophage itself, most likely just biology doing biology.</p><p>When conditions are good, life grows. When things get crowded or uncertain, it spreads. On Earth, that looks like spores, seeds, bacteria drifting on air currents&#8212;millions launched, most failing, a few landing somewhere that works. That&#8217;s bet-hedging. You don&#8217;t need all of them to survive. You just need enough.</p><p>Astrophage follows the same strategy, just scaled up. A star is a finite resource. Upon finding a star, the population of Astrophage grows exponentially and reaches some carrying capacity. This would&#8212; if biology is universal&#8212; trigger some fraction of the population to break off, launch itself into space, looking for the next star. Not randomly&#8212;they follow light signatures, the spectral &#8220;fingerprints&#8221; that tell them where conditions might work. It&#8217;s not an invasion or even action undertaken with an intention. It&#8217;s reproduction, dispersal, and gradient-following, the same playbook life uses here, just written across stars instead of soil.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.thescienceof.org/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><h1>Astrophage: Ecology</h1><p>That spread we just talked about? Astrophage isn&#8217;t evil. It just is biology doing biology. Life being all life-y. Its home system, the place where it evolved, is Tau Ceti, where Grace and Rocky discover each other. In that system, Astrophage feeds off of energy from Tau Ceti and reproduces on Tau Ceti E (&#8220;Adrian&#8221;). But what Grace and Rocky discover is that Adrian is home to a rich biosphere, including Astrophage&#8217;s natural predator &#8212; the Taumoeba.</p><blockquote><p><strong>Star Course Aside:</strong> If Astrophage is the problem, then Tau Ceti looked like the place where Astrophage was either behaving differently or being actively reduced. The Petrova line is the fingerprint of Astrophage metabolism, and Tau Ceti&#8217;s strong signal meant that its metabolism is being pushed hard or disrupted. That&#8217;s <em>exactly </em>where you look for a solution. The Hail Mary wasn&#8217;t sent to Tau Ceti because it was close, interesting, or habitable. It was sent there because, in a sky full of stars being drained, Tau Ceti looked like it might be fighting back.</p></blockquote><p>On Adrian, the Taumoeba keeps the Astrophage population in check by eating it. The presence of a predator is the strongest signal that the system is Astrophage&#8217;s home - predators don&#8217;t show up before prey. Taumoeba don&#8217;t show up unless there&#8217;s a long-standing, stable food source to evolve with. Predators are a response to the presence of prey.</p><p>Find a creature that specifically hunts Astrophage? Two things are almost certainly true:</p><p>First, Astrophage have been present there for a long time&#8212;long enough for natural selection to shape something that can find them, catch them, and survive off them. Second, the environment consistently supports that interaction. Not a one-off arrival. A system.</p><p>Mirror it to Earth.</p><p>Specialized predators don&#8217;t show up for something that washed up on the island last week. They show up where the prey has been long enough and abundant enough to matter. That kind of specialization takes time. Taumoeba tells you Astrophage weren&#8217;t just passing through the Tau Ceti system. They were native, persistent, and abundant enough for evolution to build around them.</p><p>And that&#8217;s the real point: Taumoeba isn&#8217;t the headline, Astrophage is. From an evolutionary perspective, Astrophage isn&#8217;t just an organism. It&#8217;s a massive, reliable energy source. And life does not ignore energy like that.</p><p>So in the Tau Ceti system, Astrophage is pretty benign. The system, including Astrophage on the star, is stable. Astrophage doesn&#8217;t grow unchecked, dimming the star and upsetting the energy balance on Adrian and other planets of the system where life probably exists.</p><p>Seen through this lens, Astrophage is an invasive species. A really good one at that. And in Earth&#8217;s system as well as Erid&#8217;s, Astrophage found an environment with no natural predator, and its population increased at a predictable exponential rate.</p><p>Earth version? Think wolves and deer. When deer have plenty of food and no predators, their population explodes. They overgraze, strip the environment, and start to crash under their own success. Introduce wolves, and everything changes.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!s5n3!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc0fab6e9-8a6b-4de1-a683-25559c6234d2_980x552.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!s5n3!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc0fab6e9-8a6b-4de1-a683-25559c6234d2_980x552.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!s5n3!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc0fab6e9-8a6b-4de1-a683-25559c6234d2_980x552.jpeg 848w, 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data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/c0fab6e9-8a6b-4de1-a683-25559c6234d2_980x552.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:552,&quot;width&quot;:980,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Wolves hunting a deer in snow, representing how predators regulate prey populations like Taumoeba control Astrophage&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Wolves hunting a deer in snow, representing how predators regulate prey populations like Taumoeba control Astrophage" title="Wolves hunting a deer in snow, representing how predators regulate prey populations like Taumoeba control Astrophage" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!s5n3!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc0fab6e9-8a6b-4de1-a683-25559c6234d2_980x552.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!s5n3!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc0fab6e9-8a6b-4de1-a683-25559c6234d2_980x552.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!s5n3!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc0fab6e9-8a6b-4de1-a683-25559c6234d2_980x552.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!s5n3!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc0fab6e9-8a6b-4de1-a683-25559c6234d2_980x552.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div 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Same biology, just scaled down from stars.</figcaption></figure></div><p>The wolves don&#8217;t wipe out the deer. They keep them in check. The deer population drops to a sustainable level, vegetation recovers, and the whole system stabilizes. Predator and prey rise and fall together, but neither takes over completely. That&#8217;s the Astrophage&#8211;Taumoeba relationship.</p><p>Without the predator, the system gets overwhelmed. With it, the system finds a steady state.</p><p>Same biology. Just scaled from forests&#8230; to stars.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading The Science Of...! Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support my work.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[The First Science Experiment in Project Hail Mary]]></title><description><![CDATA[Before he remembers his name, Ryland Grace drops a test tube and discovers that something is fundamentally wrong.]]></description><link>https://www.thescienceof.org/p/project-hail-mary-gravity-experiment</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.thescienceof.org/p/project-hail-mary-gravity-experiment</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt Brady]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2026 19:01:34 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/27f8d46a-93f2-4366-b6aa-f3f0a2c8bd40_1600x2400.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There will be some spoilers.</p><p>First &#8212;  I teach physics.</p><p>Ask me what I love most about Andy Weir&#8217;s <em>Project Hail Mary</em>? The moment I realized I was never going to be without a copy of it?</p><p>It happens in the first chapter, and most readers probably glide right past it, because&#8230;math. </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hIXZ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2c4c4fcd-3ca2-4712-bff4-b88977140401_651x1000.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hIXZ!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2c4c4fcd-3ca2-4712-bff4-b88977140401_651x1000.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hIXZ!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2c4c4fcd-3ca2-4712-bff4-b88977140401_651x1000.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hIXZ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2c4c4fcd-3ca2-4712-bff4-b88977140401_651x1000.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hIXZ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2c4c4fcd-3ca2-4712-bff4-b88977140401_651x1000.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hIXZ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2c4c4fcd-3ca2-4712-bff4-b88977140401_651x1000.jpeg" width="651" height="1000" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/2c4c4fcd-3ca2-4712-bff4-b88977140401_651x1000.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1000,&quot;width&quot;:651,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Project Hail Mary: A Novel: Weir, Andy: 9780593135228 ...&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:true,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Project Hail Mary: A Novel: Weir, Andy: 9780593135228 ..." title="Project Hail Mary: A Novel: Weir, Andy: 9780593135228 ..." 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stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>It starts with a problem I&#8217;ve used on physics tests for years &#8212; one that always makes my students look at me and ask, &#8220;When would this ever happen?&#8221; I feel so very validated. Thanks, Andy. Because suddenly that ridiculous physics-test question had a real-world use.</p><p>In the opening pages of the novel, Ryland Grace wakes up unsure of where he is &#8212; or even who he is &#8212; but aware enough to notice that something feels off. Following up on those instincts, he does a physics experiment.</p><p>In chapter freakin&#8217; 1.</p><p>AMAZE!</p><p>Let me just grab a quick (non-copyright violation) taste of that sweet, nerdy angle, Ryland Grace:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PCLr!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc88117d6-21ec-4346-b67c-5e593266029d_1395x1903.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PCLr!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc88117d6-21ec-4346-b67c-5e593266029d_1395x1903.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PCLr!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc88117d6-21ec-4346-b67c-5e593266029d_1395x1903.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PCLr!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc88117d6-21ec-4346-b67c-5e593266029d_1395x1903.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PCLr!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc88117d6-21ec-4346-b67c-5e593266029d_1395x1903.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PCLr!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc88117d6-21ec-4346-b67c-5e593266029d_1395x1903.jpeg" width="642" height="875.7892473118279" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/c88117d6-21ec-4346-b67c-5e593266029d_1395x1903.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1903,&quot;width&quot;:1395,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:642,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PCLr!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc88117d6-21ec-4346-b67c-5e593266029d_1395x1903.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PCLr!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc88117d6-21ec-4346-b67c-5e593266029d_1395x1903.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PCLr!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc88117d6-21ec-4346-b67c-5e593266029d_1395x1903.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PCLr!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc88117d6-21ec-4346-b67c-5e593266029d_1395x1903.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>In quick order, Grace drops a test tube off a table that&#8217;s 91 centimeters off the floor. </p><p>But he doesn&#8217;t trust a single measurement. Grace repeats the drop twenty times and averages the results. That&#8217;s not just good science fiction &#8212; it&#8217;s good science. When your stopwatch reaction time might be two-tenths of a second, and the fall only lasts three-tenths of a second, repeating the experiment is the only way to get a reliable number.</p><p>Grace writes all the times on his arm (he hasn&#8217;t found paper yet), and finds that, when the measurements are averaged, it takes 0.348 seconds for the test tube to hit the floor. He&#8217;s got data, and the data supports the &#8220;off&#8221; feeling he has.</p><p>Now he can get to work.</p><p>But before that, just a quick shout-out for this entire scene. Grace&#8217;s memory is gone, but his scientific habits survived. And that&#8217;s actually one of the smartest character signals in the entire opening scene, and one that many of us with decades of science training and teaching know too well. It tells us something important before the plot even starts moving: the <em>man </em>may not remember who he is, but he&#8217;s still a scientist.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://thescienceof.substack.com/?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_content=share&amp;action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share The Science Of...&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://thescienceof.substack.com/?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_content=share&amp;action=share"><span>Share The Science Of...</span></a></p><h1>How Grace&#8217;s Body &#8220;Knew&#8221;</h1><p>Before the math shows up, Grace&#8217;s body already knew something was wrong. To understand that, we have to sidestep physics for just a second.</p><p>Humans evolved inside a very particular environment: one planet, one atmosphere, and one gravitational field pulling downward at about <strong>9.8 meters per second squared (32.15 feet/second<sup>2</sup>)</strong>. Every movement you make&#8212;standing up, catching a ball, dropping a set of keys&#8212;happens inside that invisible constant. Everything speeds up downward at that rate &#8212; about <strong>9.8 meters per second faster every second</strong>.</p><p>Over a lifetime of countless observations, your nervous system builds a model of it.</p><p>Your inner ear, deep inside the skull, is constantly measuring <strong>acceleration</strong>. Tiny fluid-filled canals shift when your head moves, letting your brain know when you start, stop, or change direction. Your muscles and tendons are doing their own measurements at the same time, sensing force and balance. And your brain is always predicting what should happen next&#8212;how fast something should fall, how hard you should land, how much force it takes to lift something.</p><p>Most of the time, you never notice this system running &#8212;  it&#8217;s automatic.</p><p>But it means that when gravity changes&#8212;even a little&#8212;your body notices immediately.</p><ul><li><p>Drop something, and it hangs in the air a fraction longer than it should.</p></li><li><p>Jump, and you rise just a little too easily.</p></li><li><p>Your sense of weight shifts.</p></li></ul><p>You don&#8217;t reach for a calculator. You just feel that something is off.</p><p>The universe is no longer behaving the way it always has.</p><p>It&#8217;s why the footage of astronauts on the moon looks weird (not faked, it just looks weird). The moon&#8217;s gravity is 1.6 m/s<sup>2</sup>. Literally, things fall more slowly on the moon. There&#8217;s less &#8220;pull&#8221; downward on them than there is on Earth. Watching astronauts move across the lunar surface can feel eerie &#8212; something in our brains tells us that&#8217;s not how things should be.</p><p>That&#8217;s the moment Ryland Grace hits in the opening pages of <em>Project Hail Mary</em>. Before he remembers who he is, before he understands where he is, his brain notices the mismatch. The falling object takes too long, and that tiny delay is enough to trigger the most basic scientific response there is: <em>that&#8217;s weird.</em></p><p>In a minute, we&#8217;re going to run the exact same experiment Grace does, but to get back to the story &#8212; Grace hasn&#8217;t recovered his memory yet, but the part of him that understands gravity is already awake.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.thescienceof.org/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><h1>Back to the Math</h1><p>Once Grace notices the fall feels wrong, the next step is the same one scientists have been doing for centuries: estimate first, calculate second. The physics of falling objects is about as simple as it gets. If something drops under gravity alone, the distance it falls is given by the formula:</p><p>d = &#189;gt&#178;</p><p>Every intro physics class on Earth eventually meets this equation.</p><p>That is, the distance (d) something falls is equal to one-half multiplied by the gravitational acceleration ( g = 9.8 m/s<sup>2</sup> on Earth) multiplied by the time it takes the object to fall, squared. In other words, the distance an object falls depends on how strong gravity is, and how long the object has been falling.</p><p>In most physics classes, we solve this equation for the <strong>distance</strong>, not for <strong>g</strong>. But Grace isn&#8217;t in a physics class. If you want to solve for gravity instead, you just rearrange the equation:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!k5I6!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbf5c1f60-e3ce-4b26-8daa-977c5864e761_1024x1024.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!k5I6!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbf5c1f60-e3ce-4b26-8daa-977c5864e761_1024x1024.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!k5I6!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbf5c1f60-e3ce-4b26-8daa-977c5864e761_1024x1024.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!k5I6!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbf5c1f60-e3ce-4b26-8daa-977c5864e761_1024x1024.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!k5I6!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbf5c1f60-e3ce-4b26-8daa-977c5864e761_1024x1024.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!k5I6!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbf5c1f60-e3ce-4b26-8daa-977c5864e761_1024x1024.png" width="1024" height="1024" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/bf5c1f60-e3ce-4b26-8daa-977c5864e761_1024x1024.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1024,&quot;width&quot;:1024,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!k5I6!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbf5c1f60-e3ce-4b26-8daa-977c5864e761_1024x1024.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!k5I6!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbf5c1f60-e3ce-4b26-8daa-977c5864e761_1024x1024.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!k5I6!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbf5c1f60-e3ce-4b26-8daa-977c5864e761_1024x1024.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!k5I6!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbf5c1f60-e3ce-4b26-8daa-977c5864e761_1024x1024.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Grace measures gravity using the falling-object equation in the opening chapter of Project Hail Mary.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>That&#8217;s the version Grace is working with.</p><p>Now plug in what he observes. The object falls about <strong>3 feet</strong>, which is roughly <strong>0.91 meters</strong>. And the fall takes about <strong>0.348 seconds</strong>.</p><p>Put those numbers into the equation and you get a gravitational acceleration of about <strong>15 m/s&#178;</strong>.</p><p>Again, on Earth, gravity is about <strong>9.8 meters per second squared</strong>.</p><p>So wherever Grace has woken up, the gravity is only about <strong>one and a half times that of Earth</strong>.</p><p>That&#8217;s a huge difference. In a place like that, everything would feel heavier. Grace couldn&#8217;t jump as high, and objects would fall faster (and hit harder, as Grace learned). Movements would feel heavier and more deliberate. Anything that depends on gravity would happen faster.</p><p>Grace takes this result and reaches one of two possibilities: he&#8217;s either somewhere with stronger gravity than Earth, or &#8212; thanks to Einstein&#8217;s equivalence principle &#8212; he&#8217;s inside a sealed chamber accelerating at <strong>15 m/s&#178;</strong>.</p><p>Don&#8217;t worry &#8212; I didn&#8217;t ruin either the book or the upcoming movie for you. There&#8217;s a lot more for Grace to figure out before he fully realizes where he is. This happens in the first few pages.</p><h1>Try It Yourself</h1><p>You can do the same experiment Grace did here on Earth &#8212;  just duplicate his method. Drop something a bunch of times. Aim for at least <strong>a meter of drop height,</strong> because your reaction time (how quickly you can start and stop a stopwatch) is locked in at about 0.250 seconds. Grace&#8217;s 91 centimeters? Right at the edge of the sweet spot.</p><p>Take lots of measurements &#8212; 20 repetitions wasn&#8217;t overkill, it was a best practice, given that human reaction time was involved. Drop something that&#8217;s streamlined &#8212; a test tube was perfect. You can use a pen or something similar. Do the same math as above, and see what you get.</p><h2>And Just In Case&#8230;</h2><p>If you&#8217;re feeling like my old students and thinking this is all very contrived&#8230;shhh. Just read the book (you have a little bit before the movie comes out). It all makes perfect sense.</p><p>Drop something and see what gravity says.</p><h2>One Final Note</h2><p>Just in case you&#8217;re a STEM Teacher, I did run this question by my physics class, and they loved the heck out of it, particularly the question of &#8220;logically, what can Ryland Grace conclude from his finding?&#8221; </p><p>They all answered it pretty quickly, and pretty well. I&#8217;ve got a room full of would-be saviors of the earth in first period. </p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Hulk Smash Science #1: The Day Before the Dinosaurs Died]]></title><description><![CDATA[Dinosaurs, deep time, and the worst possible moment in Earth&#8217;s history to send the Hulk.]]></description><link>https://www.thescienceof.org/p/hulk-smash-science-dinosaurs-deep-time</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.thescienceof.org/p/hulk-smash-science-dinosaurs-deep-time</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt Brady]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2026 15:02:45 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DI7Y!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8105a171-a9bc-4f1f-86bd-ddec75b9b9f9_1640x1285.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>TSO (The Science Of) explores the real science behind the stories we love&#8212;from comics and movies to science fiction.</em></p><p>In <em>Hulk Smash Everything #1</em>, the Leader comes up with a simple solution to his Hulk problem: remove him from the present entirely. Instead of fighting Hulk directly, he throws him backward through time&#8212;far enough that the Hulk simply can&#8217;t get back.</p><p><strong>Where does he land?</strong></p><p>About <strong>66 million years ago</strong>, at the very end of the Cretaceous Period.</p><p>The Hulk has always had strong ties to science&#8212;and because of that, he&#8217;s long had an outsized pull on scientists and (ahem) science teachers. This series, <strong>Hulk Smash Science</strong>, takes a closer look at the real science behind those stories.</p><p>Let&#8217;s go!</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.thescienceof.org/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><h2><strong>The Worst Place the Leader Could Send the Hulk(*)</strong></h2><p>In <em>Hulk Smash Everything #1</em>, the Leader comes up with a simple solution to his Hulk problem: remove him from the present entirely. Instead of fighting Hulk directly, he throws him backward through time&#8212;far enough that the Hulk simply can&#8217;t get back.</p><p>Where does he land?</p><p>About <strong>66 million years ago</strong>, at the very end of the <strong>Cretaceous Period</strong>.</p><p>Geologists call this moment the <strong>Maastrichtian</strong>, the final stage of a world dominated by dinosaurs for more than <strong>160 million years</strong>.</p><p>It&#8217;s a good choice on the surface. The Leader didn&#8217;t just send Hulk somewhere vaguely in the distant past, like a villain with access to a time machine but no clear grasp of history. Nope&#8212;the Leader dropped Hulk into one of the most dangerous moments in Earth&#8217;s history: the last quiet minutes before <strong>the </strong>asteroid arrives.</p><p>Before we get to that asteroid, though, we need to understand just how much history has already happened before Hulk arrives.</p><p>To do that, we need to talk about <strong>deep time</strong>.</p><h2><strong>The History Beneath Hulk&#8217;s Feet</strong></h2><p>Scientists use the phrase <strong>deep time</strong> to describe the enormous span of Earth&#8217;s history. Human history covers thousands of years. Recorded civilization spans perhaps ten thousand.</p><p>Earth&#8217;s story unfolds across <strong>billions</strong>. The planet formed about <strong>4.54 billion years ago</strong>, when dust and rock in the early solar system collided and merged to form the young Earth.</p><p>Not long after the planet cooled enough for oceans to exist, life appeared. The earliest evidence dates to roughly <strong>4.28 billion years ago</strong>, when microscopic organisms were already thriving in ancient seas. It took about <strong>628 million years</strong> for life to appear on the newly formed Earth. Through the lens of deep time, that&#8217;s practically an eyeblink.</p><p>For most of Earth&#8217;s history, life was microscopic. Tiny organisms dominated the planet for billions of years, gradually reshaping the chemistry of the oceans and atmosphere.</p><p>One of the most important transformations happened around <strong>2.4 billion years ago</strong>, when photosynthetic microbes began releasing large amounts of oxygen into the atmosphere. This event&#8212;known as the <strong>Great Oxidation Event</strong>&#8212;fundamentally changed Earth&#8217;s environment and helped make more complex life possible.</p><p>Much later, around <strong>540 million years ago</strong>, animals with shells, skeletons, and complex body plans began appearing in the fossil record during the <strong>Cambrian Explosion</strong>. From that point forward, ecosystems became increasingly complex.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jVav!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcdf02460-c323-4bac-8fb9-92658c94418d_1200x904.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jVav!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcdf02460-c323-4bac-8fb9-92658c94418d_1200x904.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jVav!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcdf02460-c323-4bac-8fb9-92658c94418d_1200x904.jpeg 848w, 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Geological deep time, as envisioned by Ray Troll</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>Over the hundreds of millions of years that followed, continents drifted, oceans opened and closed, and ecosystems rose and vanished again and again.</p><p>By the time the Hulk arrives <strong>66 million years ago</strong>, Earth has already hosted life for more than <strong>4 billion years</strong>.</p><p>The ground beneath his feet contains the remains of countless earlier worlds. Layer upon layer of ancient rock preserves organisms that lived hundreds of millions of years ago. Fossils from long-vanished oceans, forests, and coastlines lie buried deep beneath the surface.</p><p>Even the oil and natural gas deposits we rely on today began forming long before Hulk arrived. Petroleum originates when enormous quantities of microscopic marine organisms sink to the seafloor and become buried under sediments. Over tens of millions of years, heat and pressure transform that buried organic material into hydrocarbons (which will return for a cameo next time).</p><p>Beneath Hulk&#8217;s feet lies a stack of ancient worlds&#8212;oceans, forests, and reefs that lived and died hundreds of millions of years before dinosaurs ever appeared. So when Hulk lands in the <strong>Late Cretaceous</strong>, he isn&#8217;t stepping into the beginning of Earth&#8217;s story.</p><p>He&#8217;s arriving <strong>very late</strong> in it.</p><p>And the world he sees is only one more chapter in a very long history.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/p/hulk-smash-science-dinosaurs-deep-time?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.thescienceof.org/p/hulk-smash-science-dinosaurs-deep-time?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p><h2><strong>North America, 66 Million Years Ago</strong></h2><p>The next surprise Hulk would notice is that the continent doesn&#8217;t look the way it does today.</p><p>The asteroid that will soon strike Earth will hit near the modern <strong>Yucat&#225;n Peninsula</strong>, at the location now known as the <strong>Chicxulub crater</strong>. Today, that region is covered by dry tropical forest.</p><p>But <strong>66 million years ago</strong>, it looked more like coastal <strong>Florida or the Bahamas</strong>.</p><p>Sea levels were much higher than today, and the Yucat&#225;n region sat on a warm, shallow marine platform filled with lagoons, reefs, and low limestone islands.</p><p>Most evidence suggests the asteroid struck shallow ocean water, roughly <strong>100&#8211;300 meters deep</strong>. So Hulk probably wouldn&#8217;t be standing in dense inland jungle near the impact site. Instead, he&#8217;d likely be somewhere along a tropical shoreline, surrounded by coastal wetlands and warm, shallow seas.</p><p>In fact, issue #1 seems to place Hulk in almost exactly the right environment. The panels show him fighting small raptor-like dinosaurs along a tropical coastline dotted with palm-like trees and low rocky outcrops. That setting lines up well with what scientists think the Yucat&#225;n region looked like at the end of the Cretaceous&#8212;a warm coastal landscape along the edge of a shallow sea.</p><p>Zoom out further, and we see Hulk fighting on a peninsula-like stretch of land jutting into the ocean&#8212;something that closely resembles reconstructions of the ancient <strong>carbonate platforms</strong> that once formed much of the Yucat&#225;n region.</p><p>If that interpretation is right, Hulk wasn&#8217;t placed randomly in the dinosaur world.</p><p>He&#8217;s standing <strong>very close to one of the worst possible places on Earth to be 66 million years ago.</strong></p><p>But the continent&#8217;s most important geographic feature at this time lay farther north. Instead of a single continent, Hulk would be looking at a <strong>North America split nearly in half by a warm inland ocean.</strong></p><p>For tens of millions of years, a vast inland sea called the <strong><a href="https://www.cretaceousatlas.org/geology/">Western Interior Seaway</a></strong><a href="https://www.cretaceousatlas.org/geology/"> </a>stretched from the Gulf of Mexico to the Arctic Ocean, covering areas that are now Kansas, Nebraska, South Dakota, and eastern Colorado.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!G3os!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F79a75463-d958-4562-9347-d54532c67ba3_960x1180.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>By Scott D. Sampson, Mark A. Loewen, Andrew A. Farke, Eric M. Roberts, Catherine A. Forster, Joshua A. Smith, Alan L. Titus - https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0012292</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>By the time Hulk arrives, the sea is retreating&#8212;but its influence (and its salt, which we still mine today) is everywhere. The continent remains divided into two regions:</p><p>To the west lies <strong>Laramidia</strong>, a narrow strip of land squeezed between the rising Rocky Mountains and the inland sea.</p><p>To the east lies <strong>Appalachia</strong>, a much older landscape built around the worn-down Appalachian Mountains.</p><p>Laramidia is where most of the famous dinosaur fossils are found today.</p><p>The environment there would feel surprisingly familiar to modern Americans. Imagine a prehistoric version of the <strong>Mississippi River basin</strong> or the <strong>Gulf Coast wetlands</strong>&#8212;broad river valleys, seasonal flooding, dense vegetation, and enormous floodplains stretching for hundreds of miles.</p><p>These landscapes supported vast herds of plant-eating animals.</p><p>And where there are herds of herbivores, there are predators.</p><h2><strong>The Dinosaurs of This Ecosystem</strong></h2><p>By the end of the Cretaceous, dinosaur ecosystems were highly developed and diverse.</p><p>Large herbivores dominated the floodplains. Among the most common were duck-billed dinosaurs like <strong>Edmontosaurus</strong>, animals up to <strong>12 meters long</strong> that grazed on vegetation using hundreds of tightly packed grinding teeth known as <strong>dental batteries</strong>.</p><p>Nearby moved horned dinosaurs like <strong>Triceratops</strong>, massive animals roughly the size of elephants but equipped with three horns and enormous bony frills protecting their necks.</p><p>At the top of this ecosystem stood <strong><a href="https://www.amnh.org/explore/news-blogs/t-rex-super-senses">Tyrannosaurus rex</a></strong>.</p><p>At roughly <strong>12 meters long</strong> and weighing several tons, <em>T. rex</em> was one of the largest land predators that ever lived. Biomechanical studies suggest its bite force exceeded <strong>30,000 newtons</strong> (about 3-4 times the weight of a typical car), powerful enough not only to slice flesh but also to <strong>crush bone</strong>.</p><p>Sharing the environment were smaller, feathered predators such as <strong>Dakotaraptor</strong>, agile hunters armed with curved sickle claws on their feet. Overhead flew birds&#8212;small feathered descendants of earlier dinosaur groups, because birds didn&#8217;t replace dinosaurs.</p><p><strong>Birds are dinosaurs.</strong></p><p>By the time Hulk arrives, these ecosystems have been stable for millions of years.</p><p>Nothing about the world suggests it&#8217;s about to change.</p><h2><strong>The Hulk&#8217;s Sparring Partners</strong></h2><p>One of the fun surprises in <em>Hulk Smash Everything #1</em> is that the dinosaurs Hulk encounters are actually pretty grounded in real Late Cretaceous biology. Ryan North and artist Vincenzo Carratu clearly did their homework.</p><p>Let&#8217;s play <strong>who&#8217;s who</strong>.</p><p>For help, we brought in a specialist: paleontologist <strong>Jimmy Waldron</strong> from <em><a href="https://dwaba.org/">Dinosaurs Will Always Be Awesome</a></em><a href="https://dwaba.org/">.</a></p><p>So let&#8217;s ID some dinos.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DWjP!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F625559eb-54a7-412c-a504-0accfc09a542_1640x1192.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Late Cretaceous grossness. Artwork from Hulk Smash Everything #1 (Marvel Comics, 2024).</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>Hulk completes his time jump next to the carcass of a much larger dinosaur that&#8217;s already had its tastier bits eaten by smaller predators. From the image, it looks like a classic <strong>long-necked sauropod</strong>&#8212;the kind of enormous plant-eating dinosaur made famous by <em>Apatosaurus</em> and <em>Brontosaurus</em>. But there&#8217;s a catch.</p><p>&#8220;There was a period of time in the early days of the Late Cretaceous that we call the <strong>Sauropod Hiatus</strong>,&#8221; Waldron explains. &#8220;It was a time when we simply don&#8217;t find very many sauropod bones in North American rocks. We don&#8217;t really know why yet, and it&#8217;s very strange.&#8221;</p><p><em>Brontosaurus</em> and <em>Apatosaurus</em> lived earlier in the <strong>Jurassic</strong>, but sauropods as a group persisted into the Late Cretaceous as <strong>titanosaurs</strong>. The panel leans into the visual shorthand of a gigantic long-necked herbivore to show just how immense the animals of this world could be.</p><p>&#8220;The only real sauropod known from Late Cretaceous North America is <strong><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alamosaurus">Alamosaurus</a></strong>,&#8221; Waldron says. &#8220;An absolute unit of a titanosaur, living between Utah, New Mexico, Texas, and northern Mexico.&#8221;</p><p>Given that the range of <em>Alamosaurus</em> may have been larger than what we&#8217;ve discovered so far&#8212;and considering its size&#8212;the half-eaten dinosaur Hulk encounters could plausibly be an <strong>Alamosaurus</strong>.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DI7Y!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8105a171-a9bc-4f1f-86bd-ddec75b9b9f9_1640x1285.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DI7Y!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8105a171-a9bc-4f1f-86bd-ddec75b9b9f9_1640x1285.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DI7Y!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8105a171-a9bc-4f1f-86bd-ddec75b9b9f9_1640x1285.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DI7Y!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8105a171-a9bc-4f1f-86bd-ddec75b9b9f9_1640x1285.png 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stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Raptors - Assemble! Artwork from Hulk Smash Everything #1 (Marvel Comics, 2024).</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>But before Hulk can get his bearings&#8212;or get us a positive ID&#8212;he&#8217;s surrounded by a group of small, fast-moving predators.</p><p>These are the <strong>raptors</strong> we were all expecting: versions of the creatures that have been haunting people&#8217;s nightmares ever since <em>Jurassic Park</em> arrived in 1993.</p><p>They look very much like <strong><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dromaeosauridae">dromaeosaurs</a></strong>, the same general family as <em>Velociraptor</em>. The long tails, narrow snouts, and raised sickle claws on their feet match what paleontologists recognize as classic raptor anatomy.</p><p>And then there are the <strong>feathers</strong>&#8212;a detail that reflects what paleontology has learned since <em>Jurassic Park</em>. For decades, dinosaurs were depicted as scaly reptiles, but fossil discoveries now show that many theropods&#8212;including raptor-like predators&#8212;were feathered.</p><p>In other words, the &#8220;<strong>giant murder turkey</strong>&#8221; aesthetic scientists sometimes joke about is actually pretty close to reality.</p><p>&#8220;Our raptor friends here are very <em>Jurassified</em>,&#8221; Waldron says, &#8220;based largely on the <em>Velociraptors</em> of <em>Jurassic Park</em> in their design and determination to rattle Hulk like a spoonful of green Jell-O.&#8221;</p><p>However, the real <strong>Velociraptor</strong> lived in Mongolia and was long extinct by this time.</p><p>&#8220;With their size and habitat range, these are likely <strong>Utahraptor</strong>,&#8221; Waldron continues. &#8220;And yes, <em>spielbergensis</em> was almost the species name&#8212;it ended up being <strong>Utahraptor ostrommaysi</strong>, named after two prominent raptor researchers.&#8221;</p><p>Fun fact #1: <em>spielbergensis</em> literally means &#8220;of Spielberg,&#8221; a nod to the director of <em>Jurassic Park</em>&#8212;and a shorthand scientists sometimes use for slightly fictionalized movie raptors.</p><p>Fun Fact #2: The sauropod skeleton in the Jurassic Park visitor&#8217;s center in the first film? That&#8217;s our buddy, Alamosaurus!</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!J18D!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7fb74044-18d7-4f36-8d9b-ae3acb6a1170_901x1200.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!J18D!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7fb74044-18d7-4f36-8d9b-ae3acb6a1170_901x1200.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!J18D!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7fb74044-18d7-4f36-8d9b-ae3acb6a1170_901x1200.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!J18D!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7fb74044-18d7-4f36-8d9b-ae3acb6a1170_901x1200.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!J18D!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7fb74044-18d7-4f36-8d9b-ae3acb6a1170_901x1200.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!J18D!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7fb74044-18d7-4f36-8d9b-ae3acb6a1170_901x1200.jpeg" width="426" height="567.369589345172" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/7fb74044-18d7-4f36-8d9b-ae3acb6a1170_901x1200.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1200,&quot;width&quot;:901,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:426,&quot;bytes&quot;:255902,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://thescienceof.substack.com/i/190624172?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7fb74044-18d7-4f36-8d9b-ae3acb6a1170_901x1200.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!J18D!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7fb74044-18d7-4f36-8d9b-ae3acb6a1170_901x1200.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!J18D!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7fb74044-18d7-4f36-8d9b-ae3acb6a1170_901x1200.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!J18D!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7fb74044-18d7-4f36-8d9b-ae3acb6a1170_901x1200.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!J18D!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7fb74044-18d7-4f36-8d9b-ae3acb6a1170_901x1200.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Fun fact #2: Dromaeosaurs and their close relatives, the <strong>troodontids</strong>, were a Late Cretaceous success story. These dinosaurs filled ecological niches across the planet, and many paleontologists think they may already have been developing <strong>flocking or pack-like behavior</strong>.</p><p>Some evolutionary biologists, including <strong>Jonathan Losos</strong>, have even speculated that if the asteroid had missed Earth&#8212;or struck harmlessly in the Pacific&#8212;raptor-like dinosaurs might have continued evolving into the planet&#8217;s dominant intelligent life.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!x2Lg!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe4e13b17-4ddf-4961-abf0-cf2d0f71e76d_393x1145.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Really get the feeling Hulk interrupted dinner. Artwork from Hulk Smash Everything #1 (Marvel Comics, 2024).</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>Also notice the body plan: long balancing tails and grasping arms, exactly what you&#8217;d expect for agile predators in Late Cretaceous ecosystems.</p><p>None of the animals are drawn perfectly to scale or with museum-level anatomical precision&#8212;this is still a Hulk comic, after all. But the overall choices are impressively close to what paleontologists think actually lived in North America at the end of the Cretaceous.</p><p>So if you dropped a very large green superhero onto Earth <strong>66 million years ago</strong> and waited for the Chicxulub asteroid to finish the job&#8230;</p><p>&#8220;Well,&#8221; Waldron concludes, &#8220;considering the geography near the impact, the giant sauropod, and the large North American dromaeosaurs, my estimation is that <strong>Dr. Banner is somewhere in central Texas&#8212;66 million years ago&#8212;smashing Utahraptors and avenging Alamosaurus.</strong>&#8221;</p><h2><strong>The Light in the Sky</strong></h2><p>And as that final panel shows, far out in space, <strong><a href="https://www.lpi.usra.edu/science/kring/Chicxulub/">a mountain-sized rock is already on its way</a>.</strong></p><p>The asteroid that will strike Earth is roughly <strong>10 kilometers wide</strong>&#8212;about the size of <strong>Mount Everest laid on its side</strong>. It&#8217;s traveling at roughly <strong>20 kilometers per second</strong>, or about <strong>45,000 miles per hour</strong>.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bTJ6!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F529ba859-bdf5-435f-8ae6-317365e4edca_1494x2153.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bTJ6!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F529ba859-bdf5-435f-8ae6-317365e4edca_1494x2153.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bTJ6!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F529ba859-bdf5-435f-8ae6-317365e4edca_1494x2153.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bTJ6!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F529ba859-bdf5-435f-8ae6-317365e4edca_1494x2153.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bTJ6!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F529ba859-bdf5-435f-8ae6-317365e4edca_1494x2153.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bTJ6!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F529ba859-bdf5-435f-8ae6-317365e4edca_1494x2153.png" width="1456" height="2098" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/529ba859-bdf5-435f-8ae6-317365e4edca_1494x2153.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:2098,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:868580,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://thescienceof.substack.com/i/190624172?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F529ba859-bdf5-435f-8ae6-317365e4edca_1494x2153.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bTJ6!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F529ba859-bdf5-435f-8ae6-317365e4edca_1494x2153.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bTJ6!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F529ba859-bdf5-435f-8ae6-317365e4edca_1494x2153.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bTJ6!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F529ba859-bdf5-435f-8ae6-317365e4edca_1494x2153.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bTJ6!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F529ba859-bdf5-435f-8ae6-317365e4edca_1494x2153.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Can Hulk stop an asteroid? Artwork from Hulk Smash Everything #1 (Marvel Comics, 2024).</em></figcaption></figure></div><p></p><p>When it strikes near the Yucat&#225;n coast, the energy released will equal <strong>billions of nuclear bombs detonating at once</strong>.</p><p>The impact will blast out a crater nearly <strong>200 kilometers wide</strong>, launch molten rock high into the atmosphere, and trigger massive earthquakes and tsunamis.</p><p>Debris blasted into space will rain back through the atmosphere, turning the sky itself into an <strong>oven</strong> and igniting wildfires across entire continents.</p><p>Dust and aerosols will block sunlight for <strong>months to years</strong>, collapsing ecosystems worldwide.</p><p>And the world Hulk has just stepped into&#8212;this stable, thriving planet&#8212;will begin to unravel.</p><p>Not instantly.</p><p>But permanently.</p><p><em><strong>Next time:</strong> the impact itself&#8212;and what happened after&#8212;in <strong>Hulk Smash Science #2.</strong></em></p><p><em>Hulk Smash Science is a four-part series exploring the real science behind Marvel&#8217;s</em> <strong>Hulk Smash Everything.</strong></p><p><em>(*) - or so we thought! Just wait until issue #2!</em></p><p><em>All comic images &#169; Marvel Comics, used for commentary and review.</em></p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.thescienceof.org/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading The Science Of...! Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support my work.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[The Cube-Square Law Sucks]]></title><description><![CDATA[Like a lot of Superman fans, big and little, I got some kind of goosebumps when the trailer first dropped &#8212; but there was one scene that did me in.]]></description><link>https://www.thescienceof.org/p/the-cube-square-law-explained</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.thescienceof.org/p/the-cube-square-law-explained</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt Brady]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2025 15:18:46 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!50Vd!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F81e6d007-eddc-43c4-8289-fc95fe301dfa_686x386.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Like a lot of Superman fans, big and little, I got some kind of goosebumps when the <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ox8ZLF6cGM0">trailer first dropped</a> &#8212; but there was one scene that did me in. You know the one: Superman fighting the Kaiju.</strong></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!50Vd!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F81e6d007-eddc-43c4-8289-fc95fe301dfa_686x386.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!50Vd!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F81e6d007-eddc-43c4-8289-fc95fe301dfa_686x386.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!50Vd!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F81e6d007-eddc-43c4-8289-fc95fe301dfa_686x386.jpeg 848w, 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data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/81e6d007-eddc-43c4-8289-fc95fe301dfa_686x386.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:386,&quot;width&quot;:686,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Superman punches a massive kaiju-like monster in front of a city skyline, as seen in the 2025 Superman movie trailer.&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:true,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Superman punches a massive kaiju-like monster in front of a city skyline, as seen in the 2025 Superman movie trailer." title="Superman punches a massive kaiju-like monster in front of a city skyline, as seen in the 2025 Superman movie trailer." 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><em><strong>Superman (2025) trailer &#169; DC Studios / Warner Bros. Used under fair use.</strong></em></p><p><strong>So cool. Superman fighting a giant monster.</strong></p><p><strong>But a stupid voice in my head reminded me &#8212; we don&#8217;t have giant monsters in our world.</strong></p><p><strong>Sometimes the little kid in me shakes his fist at the universe.</strong></p><p><strong>The reasons why are locked in stone, as far as life as we know it on earth, and it all boils down to something called the cube-square law.</strong></p><h1><strong>Friggin&#8217; Laws.</strong></h1><p><strong>As far as physics and biology go, the cube-square law is pretty straightforward: if you make an animal larger, the surface area increases by the square of the growth factor, while the volume (and mass) increases by the cube of that factor.</strong></p><p><strong>For instance, say you want to double (2x) the size of your pet dog. Your dog weighs 10 kg.</strong></p><p><strong>Your new, larger pet&#8217;s surface area would be about 4 times (2&#178; = 4) its original size, while its mass (volume) would be 8 times (2&#179; = 8) more.</strong></p><p><strong>So far, so good. That&#8217;s just the physics &#8211; a square vs. a cube.</strong></p><p><strong>Now, let&#8217;s bring in some more physics and some biology.</strong></p><h1><strong>You&#8217;re Gonna Need Thicc Legs</strong></h1><p><strong>As everything has been getting bigger on your dog, we start to run into real problems with their legs.</strong></p><p><strong>Bigger muscles (to move the bigger animal) have more strength, sure, but that strength is related to the cross-sectional area (think the area of a circle, A = &#960;r&#178;) of the muscles and bones. Again, the mass increases by the cube, but the strength of the muscle and the bones (together = &#8220;leg strength&#8221;) increases by the square of the cross-sectional area.</strong></p><p><strong>It&#8217;s why elephants have uniform, thick legs.</strong></p><p><strong>But we&#8217;re not talking about elephants, we&#8217;re talking about your 10 kg dog. Let&#8217;s give them legs that are 2 cm in diameter (so a radius of 1 cm). Ready for some math? So am I!</strong></p><p><strong>Cross-sectional area of the leg:</strong></p><p><strong>A = &#960;r&#178;<br>A = &#960;(1)&#178;<br>A = 3.14 cm&#178;</strong></p><p><strong>Your dog has a mass of 10 kg, so each leg is supporting one-quarter of that mass, in other words, 2.5 kg per leg. Per square cm, then &#8212;</strong></p><p><strong>2.5 kg/3.13 cm&#178; = 0.79 kg/cm&#178;.</strong></p><p><strong>That&#8217;s the ratio that works for this dog, given its normal, doggy dimensions. Goof that ratio up, and things won&#8217;t work. It must be 0.79 kg/cm&#178;. That&#8217;s the stress it can handle, per leg. Yeah, dogs walking on two legs might be cool to see on TikTok, but they can&#8217;t do it for long, given this and other structural reasons (they&#8217;re not built that way).</strong></p><p><strong>Okay, so let&#8217;s double that dog&#8217;s size (and cube its mass).</strong></p><p><strong>New mass = 80 kg (10 kg x 8)</strong></p><p><strong>Now, each leg has to support 80/4 = 20 kg. Will that work?</strong></p><p><strong>Spoilers &#8211; no.</strong></p><p><strong>Scale up the leg size, doubling all its dimensions, making it twice as tall and twice as thick, with legs that are twice the diameter of the original. They were 2 cm, so now they&#8217;re 4 cm; therefore, our new radius is 2 cm. Running that through the same calculation as above:</strong></p><p><strong>A = &#960;r&#178;<br>A = 12.57 cm&#178;<br>Each leg now supports 80/4 = 20 kg.</strong></p><p><strong>Our original ratio (for our normal-sized pup) was 0.79 kg/cm2. That&#8217;s what works for the proportions of the animal, large or small. When we run through the mass/area ratio after doubling&#8230;</strong></p><p><strong>20 kg/12.57 cm&#178; = 1.59 kg/cm&#178;.</strong></p><p><strong>No bueno. Given the dog&#8217;s proportions, it can only handle 0.79 kg/cm&#178;. We need to pull that ratio down by making those legs thicc. How much thicker?</strong></p><p><strong>Well, algebra:</strong></p><p><strong>We divided the mass by the cross-sectional area to get the stress load. Let&#8217;s just rearrange:</strong></p><p><strong>mass/area = stress load.</strong></p><p><strong>How about &#8212;</strong></p><p><strong>mass/stress load = area</strong></p><p><strong>20 kg/0.79 kg/cm&#178; = 25.32 cm&#178;.</strong></p><p><strong>That&#8217;s the area, so pull that back to get our radius from:</strong></p><p><strong>A = &#960;r&#178;<br>25.32 cm&#178; = &#960;r&#178;<br>25.32/&#960; = r&#178;</strong></p><p><strong>r = 2.84 cm</strong></p><p><strong>diameter = 2 x radius = 5.7 cm.</strong></p><p><strong>Compare that to our original leg diameter (2 cm) at our original mass (10 kg). To stand up, our double dog&#8217;s legs must be 43% thicker than their original diameter. That&#8217;s just the legs &#8211; the rest of the double-sized doggo will be in proportion (which brings more problems), but those legs would be noticeably thicker. Your dog won&#8217;t look like a normal, proportionate dog anymore. It will look like there was a rhinoceros somewhere in its family tree.</strong></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!646p!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbd60fb4e-0e03-4437-b2d8-16f05669c057_1024x576.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!646p!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbd60fb4e-0e03-4437-b2d8-16f05669c057_1024x576.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!646p!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbd60fb4e-0e03-4437-b2d8-16f05669c057_1024x576.jpeg 848w, 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Superman (2025) trailer &#169; DC Studios / Warner Bros. Used under fair use</strong></em></p><p><strong>And remember, that&#8217;s the thickness of the legs for standing on all four. If our double doggo wants to stand on two legs, now that&#8217;s 80 kg of mass spread over two legs, so 40 kg per leg. A quick check of the math, and we&#8217;re now looking at legs that have to be 8.03 cm in diameter, or otherwise, they&#8217;d break from the stress load on them.</strong></p><p><strong>Oh, and all of this also applies to other structural elements of bodies, including those that are external. Spiders, scorpions and all insects have to obey the cube-square law. Body mass and structure limits will always be partners in a well-choreographed dance.</strong></p><p><strong>No dog-sized spiders are allowed on Earth.</strong></p><h1><strong>Thicc Legs Were Just the Start</strong></h1><p><strong>A few more issues to quickly consider that are all related to the bigger picture:</strong></p><ul><li><p><strong>Energy: As that volume increases by the cube, its energy demands are also going to increase&#8230;by the cube. Big, big animals need to eat a lot to keep their fires burning. There are all kinds of environmental implications with this. An enormous Kaiju has the potential to decimate populations of prey and find itself really hungry.<br><br>Food is eaten, chemical bonds broken, and energy released that the animal can use. On our scale, with our metabolism, it&#8217;s what gives us our 98-ish oF body temperature.</strong></p></li><li><p><strong>Heat: Animals get rid of heat through their skin, or whatever surface is in contact with the air or water around them. The surface area of the skin increases by the square, but the stuff inside &#8212; the stuff making the heat &#8212; that increases by the cube. An animal&#8217;s metabolism is responsible for the heat on the inside, and the inside increases by the cube. So, apply that to animals big and small.<br><br>The smaller the animal, the faster it will lose heat, therefore the faster its &#8220;engine&#8221; is running. Mice have seriously fast heart rates. Additionally, mice must eat constantly to maintain their metabolism. On the other hand, an elephant has a slower metabolism, loses its heat slowly; therefore, it doesn&#8217;t have to eat as often, and moves on the whole, slower than smaller animals (though they can move fast when needed).<br><br>Following our rules (as we understand life), Kaiju, given their huge size, would rarely eat, move very slowly, and have a serious problem with heat, due to their large volume. They&#8217;d need some mechanism for getting rid of that excess heat, whether it&#8217;s radiators (fins, fans) or, now and again, blowing off jets of plasma.</strong></p></li></ul><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EIW5!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2fa01763-0b65-4a8e-88c1-8833af584a59_201x251.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EIW5!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2fa01763-0b65-4a8e-88c1-8833af584a59_201x251.jpeg 424w, 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Used under fair use</strong></em></p><ul><li><p><strong>Movement: Mentioned above, the larger the animal, the slower the movement. Movement takes muscles, and remember, muscles scale up by the square, not the cube. Physically, a larger animal has less muscular force per mass than a smaller animal does.<br><br>Thanks to that, it&#8217;s more difficult for a large animal to start, stop, or redirect any motion. The force provided by muscles in smaller animals just isn&#8217;t there for larger ones. Throw in things like momentum and inertia, and Kaiju on the whole would have a much harder time throwing (and stopping that swinging arm) a punch than a smaller animal. Again &#8212; force to start the motion and to stop the motion.</strong></p></li><li><p><strong>Cells: That volume of the larger animal that increases by the cube? That volume is made up of cells, fluids, and living creature stuff, but let&#8217;s focus on cells. Cells are where the metabolism happens &#8212; that&#8217;s the unit that creates the heat, needs the food, and all the rest of the living stuff. Cells need oxygen &#8212; it&#8217;s why we breathe, and other organisms have figured out their own methods of getting the gas into their inner workings.<br><br>Oxygen diffuses into cells from the blood (or whatever is carrying it through the body) &#8211; the bigger the cell, the longer it takes for the oxygen to get to the good stuff &#8212; cellular respiration. For small animals, this pathway is short, and the delivery can be quick. The larger the animal, the longer the path, and the more complex the circulatory system. Paths have limits on their lengths &#8212; too long, and the oxygen can&#8217;t reach the parts of the cell efficiently. And also, the larger you are, the bigger and stronger the pump you need to move that blood through the body without it stalling out.<br><br>Kaiju &#8212; without invoking magic, this is another dealbreaker. There are ways around this that can be imagined, such as smaller cells, a more complex circulatory system, multiple hearts, or membranes to extract oxygen from the atmosphere&#8230; All plausible in their own way, but each adaptation to provide for the Kaiju&#8217;s system takes energy to build and maintain. More energy to maintain, higher metabolism.</strong></p></li></ul><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bFFk!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fff404b57-f1bc-4cea-839e-7b4aef3f80a9_1024x576.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bFFk!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fff404b57-f1bc-4cea-839e-7b4aef3f80a9_1024x576.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bFFk!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fff404b57-f1bc-4cea-839e-7b4aef3f80a9_1024x576.jpeg 848w, 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massive teeth, horns, and towering size over streets and buildings." srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bFFk!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fff404b57-f1bc-4cea-839e-7b4aef3f80a9_1024x576.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bFFk!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fff404b57-f1bc-4cea-839e-7b4aef3f80a9_1024x576.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bFFk!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fff404b57-f1bc-4cea-839e-7b4aef3f80a9_1024x576.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bFFk!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fff404b57-f1bc-4cea-839e-7b4aef3f80a9_1024x576.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><em><strong>Just hangry for a Big Belly Burger? Superman (2025) trailer &#169; DC Studios / Warner Bros. Used under fair use</strong></em></p><ul><li><p><strong>Food: Been talking about metabolism and energy &#8212; larger animals need more energy, and we all get energy from food. Small animals with fast metabolisms eat constantly to replace the energy as its used up (and have relatively small poops per capita). Larger animals flip that &#8211; they eat less (but a lot of them&#8217;re vegetarians &#8212; grasses and feed vegetables have less energy than meat) because their slower metabolism allows for it. They also have relatively larger poops per capita. And given the size of stocks of what Kaiju would consider food, they would decimate entire regions of large animals, leaving only the small ones that could easily hide and quickly run away.<br><br>Kaiju &#8212; as shown historically (and in the trailer), tend to move quickly given their size. That would be supported by a faster metabolism (gas exchange, and heat considerations too) that would require a lot of energy to support it. A lot. And Kaiju would have, per monster, epic poops.</strong></p></li></ul><h1><strong>Our &#8220;Kaiju&#8221;</strong></h1><p><strong>Yes, we do have some big animals on Earth, but nothing approaching Superman&#8217;s Kaiju, Godzilla, Kong, or any of the others that hit screens. Unfortunately (shakes fist at universe), our earthly kaiju have to follow the cube-square law.</strong></p><p><strong>Our own &#8220;kaiju&#8221; are worth a look, largely because we have three distinctive environments: air, land, and water. The main player in how big our kaiju in these environments can grow is an oldie but a goodie &#8212; gravity.</strong></p><p><strong>Gravity determines weight. So while mass (the &#8220;stuff&#8221; inside a thing, molecules and atoms) doesn&#8217;t change, weight does. Less gravity, less weight. More gravity, more weight.</strong></p><p><strong>&#8220;Living&#8221; in the air gives a little help against gravity &#8212; wings can help provide lift, and lighter structures than land animals (birds&#8217; hollow bones, for example) can assist with a size boost, but when birds land, they&#8217;ve got the same problems with mass that land animals do. So let&#8217;s just consider two environments: land and water.</strong></p><p><strong>On land, the current champion is the African bush elephant, weighing approximately 6,000 kg. It matches everything you&#8217;d think &#8212; slow, thick legs, low metabolism, eating infrequently (but as a vegetarian, eating a lot). We&#8217;ve had bigger, like the Argentinosaurus, which probably topped off at 100 metric tons (100,000 kg), but we&#8217;re unlikely to see anything that big again.</strong></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dnRb!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7913a22d-7e04-44ca-8e08-bb530f4ce816_960x400.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dnRb!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7913a22d-7e04-44ca-8e08-bb530f4ce816_960x400.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dnRb!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7913a22d-7e04-44ca-8e08-bb530f4ce816_960x400.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dnRb!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7913a22d-7e04-44ca-8e08-bb530f4ce816_960x400.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dnRb!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7913a22d-7e04-44ca-8e08-bb530f4ce816_960x400.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dnRb!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7913a22d-7e04-44ca-8e08-bb530f4ce816_960x400.png" width="960" height="400" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/7913a22d-7e04-44ca-8e08-bb530f4ce816_960x400.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:400,&quot;width&quot;:960,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Size comparison chart of African bush elephants (Loxodonta africana) showing largest recorded male, average adults, and newborns alongside human figures.&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Size comparison chart of African bush elephants (Loxodonta africana) showing largest recorded male, average adults, and newborns alongside human figures." title="Size comparison chart of African bush elephants (Loxodonta africana) showing largest recorded male, average adults, and newborns alongside human figures." srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dnRb!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7913a22d-7e04-44ca-8e08-bb530f4ce816_960x400.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dnRb!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7913a22d-7e04-44ca-8e08-bb530f4ce816_960x400.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dnRb!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7913a22d-7e04-44ca-8e08-bb530f4ce816_960x400.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dnRb!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7913a22d-7e04-44ca-8e08-bb530f4ce816_960x400.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 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By <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Steveoc_86">Stevoc86</a>, Wikimedia Commons, used under <a href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/">CC BY 4.0</a></strong></em></p><p><strong>Our Kaiju can manage the sufficient skeletal structure and metabolism that Argentinosaurus must have had, but the giant dinosaur had a couple of other factors going for it &#8212; a stable food supply (lush forests and grasses), and a stable environment (both in terms of climate and predators). Given Earth&#8217;s gravity and environmental/climatic conditions, most researchers feel that the 100 metric tons of Argentinosaurus is at the practical limit for land creatures on Earth.</strong></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EM_J!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8543c73e-2b7e-4ae0-a6df-e1cd56f451c5_1024x383.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EM_J!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8543c73e-2b7e-4ae0-a6df-e1cd56f451c5_1024x383.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EM_J!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8543c73e-2b7e-4ae0-a6df-e1cd56f451c5_1024x383.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EM_J!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8543c73e-2b7e-4ae0-a6df-e1cd56f451c5_1024x383.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EM_J!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8543c73e-2b7e-4ae0-a6df-e1cd56f451c5_1024x383.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EM_J!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8543c73e-2b7e-4ae0-a6df-e1cd56f451c5_1024x383.jpeg" width="1024" height="383" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/8543c73e-2b7e-4ae0-a6df-e1cd56f451c5_1024x383.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:383,&quot;width&quot;:1024,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Size comparison chart of Patagonian dinosaur species including Argentinosaurus huinculensis, with silhouettes of multiple dinosaurs and a human for scale.&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Size comparison chart of Patagonian dinosaur species including Argentinosaurus huinculensis, with silhouettes of multiple dinosaurs and a human for scale." title="Size comparison chart of Patagonian dinosaur species including Argentinosaurus huinculensis, with silhouettes of multiple dinosaurs and a human for scale." srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EM_J!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8543c73e-2b7e-4ae0-a6df-e1cd56f451c5_1024x383.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EM_J!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8543c73e-2b7e-4ae0-a6df-e1cd56f451c5_1024x383.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EM_J!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8543c73e-2b7e-4ae0-a6df-e1cd56f451c5_1024x383.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EM_J!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8543c73e-2b7e-4ae0-a6df-e1cd56f451c5_1024x383.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 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Not just big. But BIG big. by <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Slate_Weasel">Slate_Weasel</a> Wikimedia Commons, used under <a href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/">CC BY 4.0</a></strong></em></p><p><strong>Jump into the ocean and float. A body&#8217;s buoyancy reduces the effects of gravity, so the water can allow larger animals to develop. The current champion is the Blue Whale, weighing approximately 200,000 kg. Water does help. As far as we know, there&#8217;s never been a challenger to the blue whale&#8217;s title as the biggest, although, to be fair, monstrous marine dinosaurs could have existed, but they tend to sink when they die.</strong></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!t1w1!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff6e83e7e-5f7e-42df-95fd-05c4abc2e701_951x597.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!t1w1!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff6e83e7e-5f7e-42df-95fd-05c4abc2e701_951x597.jpeg 424w, 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Image (c)<a href="https://www.orcaireland.org/blue-whale">Orca Ireland</a></strong></em></p><p><strong>But the blue whale is strictly limited to the water. If one wanted to come up against the African bush elephant on land, it would immediately realize its mistake. Without the structural support of a skeleton made for living on land, the whale&#8217;s mass would crush it.</strong></p><h1><strong>But&#8230;But&#8230;But</strong></h1><p><strong>I get you &#8212; the &#8220;what about if&#8230;&#8221;s. Yeah &#8212; what if it was nuclear powered (looking at you, Godzilla), uses stronger stuff in its skeleton, has radiant fins on its back to get rid of heat, or has some other exotic biology that allowed it to grow to a massive size that we just don&#8217;t know about. All fine options&#8230;</strong></p><p><strong>in fiction. In our world, we&#8217;re stuck &#8212; the cube-square law wins the day.</strong></p><p><strong>But we can keep hope alive. Real Kaiju would be cool. Terrifying, but cool.</strong></p>]]></content:encoded></item></channel></rss>